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Hojlund +£30m for Osimhen? You could get a whip round at Old Trafford's home end every week to cover Osimhen's wages if that is on the table.
 
Hargreaves in Italy to discuss Hojlund +£30m for Osimhen? Bite their hands off

Isn't the obvious one Garnacho? Just pay each other inflated fees (70m each way) but call it even and swap players. Keep the PSR people away for like 3 years atleast.
 
This isn't on, and that daft tweet reeling people in seems a bit silly.
Most of these “reports” are stupid. Fact is they’re purely click bait. Some of them are so bad it defies explanation.

Example: “Antony breaks silence with 3 words!

Me:
The feck? What did he say!?” <proceeds to click on link>

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I would give him an incentivised contract dependant on the amount of goals and assists he make.
 
His wage demands have to still be massive. It’s why Chelsea didn’t get the deal done with him last summer and must be why, despite him looking like the perfect Chelsea #9 and John Obi Mikel repeatedly saying he’s had conversations with him saying he’d love to play for Chelsea, we didn’t go for him again when he’s clearly still available.

The Boehly ownership group just do not offer or pay the huge wages right out of the gate like the club did under Roman. They got burned badly giving Sterling and a couple of others monster wages and ever since have offered a max of around £120k I think.

Osimhen had apparently been demanding £250-280k per week and we refused.
 
Wish this thread was better maintained. Some guy bumps it with a nothing tweet to make himself feel better and we're back to entertaining nonsense.
Wouldn't say nothing tweet when it's from local Napoli source, however will say there has been no corroboration of that meeting from reliable journo
 
His wage demands have to still be massive. It’s why Chelsea didn’t get the deal done with him last summer and must be why, despite him looking like the perfect Chelsea #9 and John Obi Mikel repeatedly saying he’s had conversations with him saying he’d love to play for Chelsea, we didn’t go for him again when he’s clearly still available.

The Boehly ownership group just do not offer or pay the huge wages right out of the gate like the club did under Roman. They got burned badly giving Sterling and a couple of others monster wages and ever since have offered a max of around £120k I think.

Osimhen had apparently been demanding £250-280k per week and we refused.
He's worth paying those wages, however thought the figure offered by Saudi was over £300k
 
He's worth paying those wages, however thought the figure offered by Saudi was over £300k
I agree he’s worth that. But sadly our new owners disagree. Maybe if he was 21 or 22. But for them even Osimhen at 26/27 is too old because if he flopped he’d be hugely difficult to shift on just like Lukaku.
 
I agree he’s worth that. But sadly our new owners disagree. Maybe if he was 21 or 22. But for them even Osimhen at 26/27 is too old because if he flopped he’d be hugely difficult to shift on just like Lukaku.
It's a wise strategy
 
His wage demands have to still be massive. It’s why Chelsea didn’t get the deal done with him last summer and must be why, despite him looking like the perfect Chelsea #9 and John Obi Mikel repeatedly saying he’s had conversations with him saying he’d love to play for Chelsea, we didn’t go for him again when he’s clearly still available.

The Boehly ownership group just do not offer or pay the huge wages right out of the gate like the club did under Roman. They got burned badly giving Sterling and a couple of others monster wages and ever since have offered a max of around £120k I think.

Osimhen had apparently been demanding £250-280k per week and we refused.

Fair enough that the length of the contract provides safety in terms of potential injuries, which obviously gives a decent incentive, but locking themselves down on a 8 year contract on wages they'd be close to doubling at other top clubs and potentially increasing further depending on contract extensions, doesn't seem all that likely. Sure, maybe some players will jump on it depending on age and wanting that safety, but i'd be surprised if Caicedo isn't on atleast 30-40k more per week, which would offset substantially higher wages on a 5 year contract.
 
Fair enough that the length of the contract provides safety in terms of potential injuries, which obviously gives a decent incentive, but locking themselves down on a 8 year contract on wages they'd be close to doubling at other top clubs and potentially increasing further depending on contract extensions, doesn't seem all that likely. Sure, maybe some players will jump on it depending on age and wanting that safety, but i'd be surprised if Caicedo isn't on atleast 30-40k more per week, which would offset substantially higher wages on a 5 year contract.
What we do now under this new regime is incentive based wage raises. Much more modest starting wages compared to the Roman era but with the ability to earn more and more depending on what is achieved.

So they aren’t locked to the same wages in year 5/6/7 of their contracts as they were in year 1 if they hit certain milestones.
 
What we do now under this new regime is incentive based wage raises. Much more modest starting wages compared to the Roman era but with the ability to earn more and more depending on what is achieved.

So they aren’t locked to the same wages in year 5/6/7 of their contracts as they were in year 1 if they hit certain milestones.

Year 5/6/7 is a bit of a stretch to be extending wages, over 50% of the total contract completed already. Caicedo was 21 when he joined you on an 8 year contract with the club having the option to extend it with one year. His window to sign a lucrative contract with a club with a different wage policy is more or less closed at that point. I'd get it if there was fixed increases depending on performances, reaching certain targets, matches played, as it generally ensures they will earn significantly more to the point where it makes no sense to sign on for a shorter period.
 
Year 5/6/7 is a bit of a stretch to be extending wages, over 50% of the total contract completed already. Caicedo was 21 when he joined you on an 8 year contract with the club having the option to extend it with one year. His window to sign a lucrative contract with a club with a different wage policy is more or less closed at that point. I'd get it if there was fixed increases depending on performances, reaching certain targets, matches played, as it generally ensures they will earn significantly more to the point where it makes no sense to sign on for a shorter period.
Caicedo specifically is about to be rewarded with a new contract it has been reported in recent days. So at least for him he’s about to get a massive raise I would assume.
 
I agree he’s worth that. But sadly our new owners disagree. Maybe if he was 21 or 22. But for them even Osimhen at 26/27 is too old because if he flopped he’d be hugely difficult to shift on just like Lukaku.
He’s scored everywhere he’s played. If he won’t make it here and after 2 seasons he’s 28 or 29, there’ll be plenty of suitors

Harry Kane went to Bayern at 29 if I’m right

I mean overall it’s a wise strategy, but this is not some late bloomer or something
 
Caicedo specifically is about to be rewarded with a new contract it has been reported in recent days. So at least for him he’s about to get a massive raise I would assume.

That would fit a lot better for upcoming players, as soon as they cross 150-160k they'd have to be on significantly higher weekly wages at top clubs handing out 5 year contracts to make it worthwhile, especially factoring in the safety layer involved with extra years, essentially contracts they are unlikely to get anytime soon.

Then again, your strategy only works because of your owners and loopholes. Obviously with CL football you'll increase your revenue and most likely you'll continue to finish top 4 in the years to come, but it's not exactly a foolproof strategy and a model for others to follow. You were running out of things to sell to yourself. It's not much of a surprise that you're keen on multi club structures and looking into strategic opportunities there.
 
He’s scored everywhere he’s played. If he won’t make it here and after 2 seasons he’s 28 or 29, there’ll be plenty of suitors

He's gone from Italy to Turkey, if he goes to the PL and flops it's not likely to be plenty of suitors willing to fork out his wages and Osimhen, like the rest of us, likes his wages.
 
This turned out to be bollocks then? Nobody seen Matt Hargreaves walking round with a slice of pizza yet?
 
I think so, though I suspect maybe his wages or some sort of agreement with Saudi is meaning clubs are looking elsewhere. Let’s see what happens, but I’d be surprised if Napoli are doing a deal like that.
I think his wages are a big barrier.
 
I think his wages are a big barrier.
Need to shift some of the big earners, surprised if he's not Al Hilal bound that they wouldn't want him for Club World Cup. So at least this saga won't drag out unless he decides to turn down then down again of course.
 
If we do get desperate I wouldn't mind him joining. I like the range of goals he scores and maybe seems the most likely to make an immediate impact out of slim striker pickings and our struggling team.
 
Need to shift some of the big earners, surprised if he's not Al Hilal bound that they wouldn't want him for Club World Cup. So at least this saga won't drag out unless he decides to turn down then down again of course.
Story today was they have got the go ahead on personal terms so it is just about agreeing the fee with Napoli. Galatasary finish their season tomorrow and the window opens Saturday so I expect we will see some pretty rapid movement at that point.
 
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Anyone?

Or let's stick with hojlund
 
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Story today was they have got the go ahead on personal terms so it is just about agreeing the fee with Napoli. Galatasary finish their season tomorrow and the window opens Saturday so I expect we will see some pretty rapid movement at that point.
Was this coming from that Il Napolista source too, you would have to think if there was anything in this then someone more reliable would have corroborated story
 
Was this coming from that Il Napolista source too, you would have to think if there was anything in this then someone more reliable would have corroborated story
It was ESPN. It tracks with what Ornatein and others have been saying all along though. Osimhen wants this move and unless something goes wrong in the club to club negotiations it is where he will end up. The personal terms are miles beyond anything he would make in Europe. Nothing was ever going to happen until the Turkish season ended and they are meant to want to get this done for the Club World Cup so the next few days should give us our answer one way or another.
 
It was ESPN. It tracks with what Ornatein and others have been saying all along though. Osimhen wants this move and unless something goes wrong in the club to club negotiations it is where he will end up. The personal terms are miles beyond anything he would make in Europe. Nothing was ever going to happen until the Turkish season ended and they are meant to want to get this done for the Club World Cup so the next few days should give us our answer one way or another.
Ah just realised you meant Al Hilal had agreed personal terms with him. I wish we could have sold him the project of being the main man here, unfortunately think he's too far down the line with them. Presume when Ornstein reported he wasn't on our list that was due to wage demands and Delap being top target. My gut feeling is he will confirm over weekend he's going to Saudi which is shame because still capable of playing in Europe.
 
That’s a winning combo. Need to find a way to use Garnacho plus cash as bait for Osimhen
Yeah they would be more interested in Garnacho, however like I said in above post I think it's too late and his mind is already made up to join Al Hilal