What if Brown won't sign a contract extension?I'd love to have berbatov, but at the expense of brown?
The OFF TOPIC Berbatov thread (used to be 'Berbatov Wants Move')
- Thread starter Alex
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Jaysus, there's some delusion in this forum.
Where are United going to get £30 million for one player from.
Do all of you lot forget we're in £600m worth of debt?
Where are United going to get £30 million for one player from.
Do all of you lot forget we're in £600m worth of debt?
I hope you are right cocnkey
he is basing the evaluation on Chelsea paying £30.8m to sign Andriy Shevchenko.
For me, I dont want us to pay over £22m. I think thats a fair price
For me, I dont want us to pay over £22m. I think thats a fair price
He will.
You could have saved yourself some typing and just left it at that.
We did approach Berbatov, by the way, he turned it down when we asked that he wait until after the RvN deal was concluded before making a definite offer. His loss. He's just wasted 18 months of his career in a mid-table club.
Exactly...what's another £30 million..
Ive discussed this before but sometimes its an important part of a players development to go to a medium sized club before hitting utd. Miller for example was warned it was too soon to leave celtic.
Had carrick gone to utd instead of spurs from west ham i think things would have panned out very different for him. i.e. he wouldnt have got enough game time/patience to develop.
Someone like berbatov i think because of his style they thought will it work wont it work in the prem. Now they've realised it does.
Bale chose to go to spurs and i for one understand why. Unless you're a ronaldo or a rooney calibre you're going to find it tough breaking into the utd side and getting enough games to keep developing. would he have displaced evra? Instead let him go to spurs, he's young..if he does well at our tester club pick him up in 3 or 4 years when evra is fading for what 12mil?
No, he hit the bar with his right foot from distance in his first premiership start at right back.
He doesnt have a huge amount of pace. Neither does Fletcher. But truth is, he has more technical ability than Fletcher and seems more productive already. Add to that hes a big danger from set pieces and you have yourself a young player worth having on the pitch, gaining experience all the while.
this thread is gaining momentum.
Firstly there's the possiblilty of installments
then there's the fact we dont have to pay for tevez for another what year and a bit
If we buy berbatov you're looking at not spending in that department for another 5 years...do the math.
You actually believe it's all the same as playing Football Manager, don't you?
Usually a good sign, how sure are you cockney hammer?
Cock out btw
I can't wait to see the reaction from glaston spur when we sign him, hehe...
how long was the tevez one?? it will never match it but berbatov would be a bigger signing. Less hype but bigger.
I forgot you were a moron. always get you mixed up with some other red character...but yep..i'll try and remember reddish is the moron not the other guy!
United will sign berbatov. There it is
Cocks out
Cocks out
My cock is resting nicely on the computer desk.
Hehe
Keep believing it, meanwhile I'll carry on living in the real world where businesses act absolutely nothing like you described above, especially not multi-million businesses like football clubs.
Carry on, you Transfer muppet you.
No. Selling a single player - Carrick - doesn't make it so.
A selling club is one that needs regular injections of transfer profits to survive. Spurs have plenty of money.
He's not wrong, to be fair.
Totally different ball-game making a career at United. Obviously, if a player's come up through the ranks, then Fergie will go out of his way to give them opportunities in an attempt to develop their game (e.g. Fletcher) but when it comes to signing players from another club, Fergie usually needs to be convinced they're good enough to fight for their place, if not straight away, then certainly the season after.
If not, sometimes it's worth taking a financial hit and letting them prove they have what it takes at another club first, then paying whatever it takes to sign players who will definitely make the grade. Otherwise we turn into Liverpool, signing loads and loads of players for 5 to 10 million, who aren't quite good enough to win us the league.
There's also the possibility that bringing in a Berbatov could mean the club decide to not sign Tevez permanently.
Everyone here forgets: Hargreaves is also cover for RB & LB. If he is healthy, he could get us to the point when Nev is healthy. Also, how does anyone here know we're not bringing another back in?
are you forgetting about Sol Campbell maybe?
Could you give me the lottery numbers for this Saturday too please.
Also, if you're so confident he'll sign, why hasn't he already when Sir Alex as said its the last offer.
So you and Gus are saying that United prefer to take a massive financial loss in the way you described, than to loan the players out to lower league clubs to see if they excel, ticking capitol over at the same time?
I would say that's very unlikely. Fergie loves the little fecker.
If we do sign Berbatov, it's Saha who will be looking over his shoulder. Although, having said that, Fergie's always been keen on four top-class strikers and that's exactly what we'll have. And then some!
some players can't handle the step up but then some suprise you - ole is a good example. if your good enough your good enough end of story. Some players just need more time to find their feet some don't
'but berbatov would be a bigger signing. Less hype but bigger.'
feck off
. Yeah sure he's bigger. By a good few inches I might add.....
'but berbatov would be a bigger signing. Less hype but bigger.'
feck off
. Yeah sure he's bigger. By a good few inches I might add.....That's more or less exactly what I'm saying. You can lend clubs out to lower leagues all you want but there's no guarantee they will excel and, even if they do (like Lupoli at Derby, for example) a load of goals in the Championship, doesn't necessarily equate to a big transfer fee. At the end of the day, a club like United has to be extremely selective in the players it signs.
And how exactly is it a "massive financial loss"? You can't lose money you never had in the first place. Just like you can't sign every player who might be good enough to play for United, one day.
Im pretty confident on this one, it's not concrete like the Tevez bits but i'm going to get an update of whats happened this evening at 10, hopefully then i'll be able to give some concrete facts (Exact price and date)
Glastonspur will be gutted bt then I think spurs fans can do with another hard shot of realism this season then maybe they'll start dropping the "big club" comments
Yeah you can sell 2-3 player at 10 million each to survive like West Ham under Brown did or you can sell one player at 20-30 million like Spurs do
Either way it's selling to survive, your board aren't there to constantly pump money into the club, they want money out. You have spent heavily over the last few seasons with no real sign of any progress, your still a mid table club who push for a European place. Everton and Blackburn and Portamouth are much more sucessful than you as they reach the same heights as you without spending as much.
You invested in Carrick to sell, you invested in Bale to sell, Berbatov to sell, Lennon to sell etc etc
cockney I remember the Tevez thread so forgive me if I doubt you but I do. I would love to be proved wrong, but I don't think so. grr
I think cocks should go back in now. It's time to time to start the countdown to 10pm when CH will reappear to reveal the exact timing of the transfer of Berbatov to United...
any news on him? already signed?
Again, selling a single player - Carrick - does not somehow turn us into a 'selling club'.
Spurs buy young talent for the same reason that many clubs do: to try and build their squad for the future. We also buy established Prem players: Chimbonda and Bent being the latest examples. If it's 'all about return on investment', then I suppose we're planning on a hefty profit on Bent's fee eh?
My cock is staying out. I've been bringing it out and putting it back in too much this season.
Assuming players like Saha and Tevez are content with playing the odd match here and there when he fit. Tevez is a world class player and knows he'd be a regular starter at 99% of clubs worldwide. Now would Tevez play the Ole card and be content or would he be more like Cole or Sheringham and leave after a couple seasons as 3rd/4th choice? I know that United participating in 50-60 matches each season means at least 3 strikers will get 20+ starts, but a Berbs/Roon partnership would start at least 40 (fitness provided).
My cock's out just in case
If he's a world class player he'll push Rooney and Berbatov all the way for a starting place week after week.
He's not yet world class in my opinion, but not far off at all and come the end of the season - regardless of whether we sign Berbatov or not, he could be in the world class bracket. All he'd need to do for me is carrying on scoring the goals, but improve his general play (performances like the Birmingham match week after week please)
Dear oh dear ... Sol Campbell wasn't sold - he left for free.
On that note i'm off anyway, things to do, people to seeI think cocks should go back in now. It's time to time to start the countdown to 10pm when CH will reappear to reveal the exact timing of the transfer of Berbatov to United...
I'll be back this evening, probably by 10 depending on the little 'un but if I hear anything beforehand it might be earlier
Selling a player for a low fee, for him to turn out brilliant and then buy him back at a large fee, is most definitely seen by Directors of companies, as making a financial loss.
This is what Gus was saying United do.