Miguel Veloso, Andrei Arshavin and David Bentely

Definitely need to think about that. No doubt Bent is being considered as an option but if/when he gets injured they will need some decent back-up.

If Berbatov does leave, I'm almost certain they will sign another striker who is decent in the air, either Pavyluchenko or Milito.

If they replace Berbatov and Keane with one of those two, plus Arshavin, get Bent to perform to his abilities and Dos Santos to have a decent debut season, I reckon Spurs might cope fairly well with losing their two highest scorers.

I'd agree with that some. Again, I can't stress how good the chemistry between Berbatov and Keane was. If Spurs get even half of that from their new front two, they'll be lucky. But they'll cope with the new midfield.
 
All set for spurs according to a realiable itk of spurs....:eek: damm impressive

Miguel Veloso could become a top class player, I don't understand Bentley and Arshavin if you have already Dos Santos, Lennon...wasted money.
 
It wouldn't be so surprising to me, especially if we switch to a 4-2-3-1 formation. Bent's league goals record at Charlton was excellent.

Even last season at Spurs (with limited chances to play because of the Keane-Berbatov partnership):

Minutes per total goals contributed X pens:
Bent 117.07
Keane 119.38
Berbatov 138.58


If we have the likes of Modric, Arshavin, Dos Santos and Lennon/Bentley to support and suppply him, I've no doubt he'd score bucket-loads.

Holy crap. Obviously, Berbatov - Keane was the strikeforce for your harder matches and most likely, most of Bent's games were in cup matches against weaker opposition right?

But still, to out-do that partnership last season is terrific.
 
Miguel Veloso could become a top class player, I don't understand Bentley and Arshavin if you have already Dos Santos, Lennon...wasted money.

Well Arshavin will be played as a withdrawn striker and Bentley gives Spurs a different option than Lennon. Even though I don't rate Bentley as high as most others here, I would still take him over Bentley any day. He was brilliant at providing goals for Santa Cruz last year and so I'm sure Bent/Milito/new signing will benefit from his quality delivery. Much more so than they would have from Lennon's, more often than not, poor delivery.
 
BBC Sport reporting that Blackburn and Spurs are in negotiations over Bentley. Looks as though it will be a similar fee to Keane's.
 
Well Arshavin will be played as a withdrawn striker and Bentley gives Spurs a different option than Lennon. Even though I don't rate Bentley as high as most others here, I would still take him over Bentley any day. He was brilliant at providing goals for Santa Cruz last year and so I'm sure Bent/Milito/new signing will benefit from his quality delivery. Much more so than they would have from Lennon's, more often than not, poor delivery.

Agreed. Bentley is one of the best in the premiership at delivering the ball into the box. Almost Beckham-like at times.
 
Miguel Veloso could become a top class player, I don't understand Bentley and Arshavin if you have already Dos Santos, Lennon...wasted money.
I agree with you on Bentley to some extent - tho' he'd certainly add to squad depth and - being a very different sort of player to Lennon or Dos Santos - add to the range of tactical options for Ramos.

But with the loss of Keane - and Berbs probably to follow - Arshavin would definitely find a starting role, especially in a 4-2-3-1 formation:

------- Veloso - Modric -----
Bentley* -- Arshavin -- Dos Santos*
----------- Bent --------

* Or with Lennon in place of either Bentley or Dos Santos.

I don't see any problems with that - in fact it looks like a cracking formation and line-up to me, with Veloso and Modric fluidly sharing DM duties between them, but Modric having a more play-making role than Veloso, and one or the other coming forward (Modric much more so) as the game dictates.
 
Agreed. Bentley is one of the best in the premiership at delivering the ball into the box. Almost Beckham-like at times.

That's where the comparison comes from, but then Beckham had much more to his game than Bentley does and so too many people call him the next Beckham. He's got a decent shot on him and can pass a ball, but I'm just not that big a fan of his. There's no denying that someone who's good in the air will benefit from having him in his team though.
 
if by coolest you mean portuguese, then yes.

I think he meant it in the gay way.

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Which is fine. We're not here to judge people's lifestyle choices.
 
Veloso is the one they really need. It would prevent Zokora getting anywhere near the team.
Velosa hasnt exactly set the world on fire - dont believe the hype just because we were linked with him - he's done nothing to find himself being a £20m transfer target, as reportedly quoted from Sporting!

If United thought he was any good then we'd be lookin to bring him in for his defensive qualities - i thought he was shit defensively in games i've seen him in aswell!

Far too many players gettin hyped the feck. Moutinho - a good player but not £18m+ and Veloso the same!
 
Holy crap. Obviously, Berbatov - Keane was the strikeforce for your harder matches and most likely, most of Bent's games were in cup matches against weaker opposition right?

But still, to out-do that partnership last season is terrific.
Bent scored:

League:
Derby
Boro'
Wigan
W.Ham
Pompey
Newcastle

UEFA:
A. Famagusta
Aalborg

So yes, generally against weaker teams in the Prem and one cup competition - but then again, he obviously couldn't have scored in the games in which he wasn't played.

I think (but not sure) that the 'total goals contributed' stat includes assists, of which Bent made 8.
 
That's where the comparison comes from, but then Beckham had much more to his game than Bentley does and so too many people call him the next Beckham. He's got a decent shot on him and can pass a ball, but I'm just not that big a fan of his. There's no denying that someone who's good in the air will benefit from having him in his team though.

Well if I'm honest, I'd say Beckham had a better shot/strike and freekick obviously - though Bentley is good here, just not as good. His crossing can look similar in technique and the accuracy is good, but once again Beckham obviously bests him. Bentley's passing is good, but Beckham's better. And once more Beckham bests him in terms of strength and balance. Bentley can be quite 'light' on the ball.

But to make up for this to some extent, Bentley is more mobile than Beckham was. Just a little bit and obviously he's still developing his talents. But Bentely should be banned from speaking to the press, for his own sake.
 
I'm not Beckham's biggest fan but he was a lot better than Bentley.

Well, that's hardly surprsing.

For you to rate Bentley as anything better than "mediocre" would be to admit that your almighty is fallible. Which is never gonna happen.

FWIW, I reckon Bentley is a decent player. Clearly, he's no Beckham, not yet anwyay. But he would make a decent addition to any Premier League squad (not least Arsenal, where he would have made a much, much better fist of playing right wing than Eboue)
 
I agree with you on Bentley to some extent - tho' he'd certainly add to squad depth and - being a very different sort of player to Lennon or Dos Santos - add to the range of tactical options for Ramos.

But with the loss of Keane - and Berbs probably to follow - Arshavin would definitely find a starting role, especially in a 4-2-3-1 formation:

------- Veloso - Modric -----
Bentley* -- Arshavin -- Dos Santos*
----------- Bent --------

* Or with Lennon in place of either Bentley or Dos Santos.

I don't see any problems with that - in fact it looks like a cracking formation and line-up to me, with Veloso and Modric fluidly sharing DM duties between them, but Modric having a more play-making role than Veloso, and one or the other coming forward (Modric much more so) as the game dictates.

It looks like a strong lineup. Another striker would be needed though.
 
Glaston, Do Spurs have any good strikers in the reserves/U19s...
There's Tomas Pekhart (Czech U-21 team), who was the top scorer in reserves last season. He was taken with the first team squad to our Spanish training camp this summer, so clearly they see something in him. He's a big lad, but I've never actually seen him play so can't really comment.

But he's only just turned 19, so I can't see him being used this season except in an emergency or maybe with a couple of run-outs in the League Cup.
 
Well, that's hardly surprsing.

For you to rate Bentley as anything better than "mediocre" would be to admit that your almighty is fallible. Which is never gonna happen.

FWIW, I reckon Bentley is a decent player. Clearly, he's no Beckham, not yet anwyay. But he would make a decent addition to any Premier League squad (not least Arsenal, where he would have made a much, much better fist of playing right wing than Eboue)
Even Homer nods (and Arsene must have dozed off during Eboue's efforts on the right last season). I expect us to screw up selling off an academy player too early one day, but that day's not come. Bentley's not T4Q which why he's off to Spurs despite his wish to play CL football.
 
I agree with you on Bentley to some extent - tho' he'd certainly add to squad depth and - being a very different sort of player to Lennon or Dos Santos - add to the range of tactical options for Ramos.

But with the loss of Keane - and Berbs probably to follow - Arshavin would definitely find a starting role, especially in a 4-2-3-1 formation:

------- Veloso - Modric -----
Bentley* -- Arshavin -- Dos Santos*
----------- Bent --------

* Or with Lennon in place of either Bentley or Dos Santos.

I don't see any problems with that - in fact it looks like a cracking formation and line-up to me, with Veloso and Modric fluidly sharing DM duties between them, but Modric having a more play-making role than Veloso, and one or the other coming forward (Modric much more so) as the game dictates.

From watching Russia and Croatia in the Euros, I'd say both Modric and Arshavin liked to do a lot of the same things and in a lot of the same areas around the edge of the box and making those darting runs down the flanks.

Course, this isnt a problem as long as they arent both trying to work the same areas at the same time. While Modric can do his duty defensively, you'd be wasting his talents so deep.

If I were you, I'd be hoping its more

------------ Veloso -------------
Bentley----------------Dos Santos
----------- Modric --------------
---------------------------------
-----------------Arshavin--------
----------Bent ------------------

With Arshavin working mostly down the left flank and Modric making his runs down the right, with Bentley coming inside like he likes to sometimes.
 
Even Homer nods (and Arsene must have dozed off during Eboue's efforts on the right last season). I expect us to screw up selling off an academy player too early one day, but that day's not come. Bentley's not T4Q which why he's off to Spurs despite his wish to play CL football.

That's a good line. I must use it the next time anyone mentions Djemba-Djemba.
 
Bentley isn't that good but in a team that contains Veloso, Modric and Arshavin I would expect him to perform better and who knows reach that next level.

The team on paper looks good only problem is too many changes will unsettle a side and they may not all be ready till Christmas.
 
--------- Veloso
Bentley -- Modric -- Dos Santos
----- Arshavin
-------- Santa Cruz


Now that would be a good return on selling a number of last seasons squad and once team got to know each other, be good for CL place IMO.
 
We will see if this goes through. Out of all of them I like Veloso, he has a chance of being an excellent player, it would be more impressive if they had not sold Keane and actually keep hold of Berbatov of course.
 
Velosa hasnt exactly set the world on fire - dont believe the hype just because we were linked with him - he's done nothing to find himself being a £20m transfer target, as reportedly quoted from Sporting!

If United thought he was any good then we'd be lookin to bring him in for his defensive qualities - i thought he was shit defensively in games i've seen him in aswell!

Far too many players gettin hyped the feck. Moutinho - a good player but not £18m+ and Veloso the same!

To be fair I've never actually seen him play, I'm just assuming that there's some substance behind the hype and the fact he can get a game for his country whilst still pretty young. If he has any talent beyond running around a lot and being large then he's better than Zokora.
 
Well, Veloso hardly got a look in during the Euros. Petit... A very untalented player, was prefered.

Veloso is very much still potential rather than substance. He's most likely going to be a very good player, but he's not yet.
 
Lets get to the important issue here, how is Veloso a cooler name than Arshavin?
Obviously I appreciate the lovely foreign name but Arshavin.. as in arse shaving, it's genius.
 
Yeah Veloso sounds quick and streamlined like an express train. Arse having doesn't have the same ring.
 
All set for spurs according to a realiable itk of spurs....:eek: damm impressive

Anyone who claims to be an "itk" is a prick and should be treated as such.

They are invariably either quoting what everyone else has read in the paper anyway, or making something up that you could have done yourself.

Spurs seem to have more of these pricks than other clubs.
 
From watching Russia and Croatia in the Euros, I'd say both Modric and Arshavin liked to do a lot of the same things and in a lot of the same areas around the edge of the box and making those darting runs down the flanks.

Course, this isnt a problem as long as they arent both trying to work the same areas at the same time. While Modric can do his duty defensively, you'd be wasting his talents so deep.

If I were you, I'd be hoping its more

------------ Veloso -------------
Bentley----------------Dos Santos
----------- Modric --------------
---------------------------------
-----------------Arshavin--------
----------Bent ------------------

With Arshavin working mostly down the left flank and Modric making his runs down the right, with Bentley coming inside like he likes to sometimes.

I think Dos Santos will see a back seat to Lennon at least come the beginning of the season. Too many unproven players in attack and Dos Santos still so young, he could ride the bench a bit and come off toward the end of each match until things start flowing.

At the moment Berbatov seems to be staying and if Spurs just bite the bullet and take a loss in money this transfer period by keeping Berbatov they can be a very very big team this season. If I were a scouser I'd be scared...

I think if I were a Spurs fan I'd be begging for a CB however... What ever happened to Kompany, I thought he was meant to be a brilliant young player but he seems stuck where ever he is...

Edit: Just read some stuff on the Norwich game- seems Bent and Dos Santos were massive... Dos Santos may be fighting for a starting role but I think they'll still be a bit careful in the beginning of the season until they get their legs on properly.