Manchester United 3:1 Burnley

Walters_19_MuFc · Dec 29, 2021

Can't see RR moving away from his 4222. Seems quite stubborn but at the same time, as he said, if we're not going to work hard enough off the ball, then the system is irrelevant.

It will be interesting to see who he drops/rotates against Burnley, because when it comes to physicality, aggression, energy - all assets of the game RR wants to see, Burnley will have it all.

Ayoba · Dec 29, 2021

If we start with 2 strikers, we're going to struggle with possession and even struggle to win the game!

Drop the 2nd striker and play a 3 man midfield.

Walters_19_MuFc · Dec 29, 2021

Ayoba said:
If we start with 2 strikers, we're going to struggle with possession and even struggle to win the game!

Drop the 2nd striker and play a 3 man midfield.

I don't think we'd struggle with possession. I think the wide 10's make up for a lack of an extra centre midfielder, simply because the play in the half spaces, effectively making it a midfield box. I mean, we had 70% possession against Newcastle - our highest in an away game this season, but it's all about what we do with the ball.

We need width. The only good moments in the game came about when we pushed the ball out wide.

Lentwood · Dec 29, 2021

I would like to see Greenwood and Cavani as the two 9s, vdB and Lingard as the two 10s and Fred and McTominay as the two 8s. Certainly plenty of legs in that team. Hopefully the attitude and energy of the other five rubs off on Greenwood

Nordmore · Dec 29, 2021

Ronaldo doesn't deserve to start this match, nor has the legs. Greenwood only played 45' last match so my bet is:

Cavani Greenwood
Rashford Sancho
Donny Fred
Shaw Maguire Varane Dalot
DDG

Maybe Donny for Rashford then McT plays.

I'd like to see Rashford back with Shaw. These two generally work pretty well together and Telles was crap last match.

Looking forward to see Cavani with Greenwood up top.

Red Dreams · Dec 29, 2021

Donny will replace Bruno.
Sure we will see some rotation in other positions.

Swedish_Plumber · Dec 29, 2021

DDG
Dalot
Maguire
Varane
Telles
Matic
Fred
VDB
Sancho
Cavani
Ronaldo

Shows you just how much me rely on players near retirement in key positions sadly. But that’s the best team we have with the players available and a team that should get the job done.

Offsideagain · Dec 29, 2021

Burnley will sit deep and soak up our slow slow build up and then try and hit us on the counter. They won’t press too high especially as Barnes isn’t playing. It will be a usual home game. Pretty passing and all stops twenty yards out as someone waits for Ronaldo to make a run. I wish Greenwood would start and he plays his own game and not keep trying to play in Ronaldo. Start Cavani and Greenwood and bring Ronaldo on in the second half. 2-0 reds.

SAF is the GOAT · Dec 29, 2021

Did the team even trained today and prepared for the game ?

roseguy64 · Dec 29, 2021

SAF is the GOAT said:
Did the team even trained today and prepared for the game ?

Why would they not?

Red Daz · Dec 29, 2021

Back to dreading our games

USREDEVIL · Dec 29, 2021

Let's hope that we see at least a bit of progress this time. Ronaldo and Cavani up top. VDB and Sancho. Matic and Fred. Then replace Telles with Shaw.

The Firestarter · Dec 29, 2021

roseguy64 said:
Why would they not?

It was too dark?

Sassy Colin · Dec 29, 2021

Both Maguire and Bruno are suspended for this, right? What about MuckyT?

Lindelof is ill too, I read. Isn't Bailly away, or something? A Jones/Varane defense, or will Matic deputise?

Sandikan · Dec 29, 2021

Swedish_Plumber said:
DDG
Dalot
Maguire
Varane
Telles
Matic
Fred
VDB
Sancho
Cavani
Ronaldo

Shows you just how much me rely on players near retirement in key positions sadly. But that’s the best team we have with the players available and a team that should get the job done.

Bearing in mind Matic barely plays, and Cavani has played about 2games by the end of December, they're hardly players we "rely" on.

USREDEVIL · Dec 29, 2021

Sandikan said:
Bearing in mind Matic barely plays, and Cavani has played about 2games by the end of December, they're hardly players we "rely" on.

They've been absolutely crucial in feck all.

Phil · Dec 29, 2021

I really wouldn't be against seeing Mejbri involved somewhere in some way. We're so desperate for creativity in midfield.

DWelbz19 · Dec 29, 2021

SonyaCross493 said:
Ibra starts for potential Italian champions AC Milan at 40/41 years of age and there's talk of him getting a new contract too because the club is so pleased with him.

how come Ibra can start for AC Milan at 40 years of age (and he started for Manchester United not far off Ronaldo's agebut some people think Ronaldo can't start for top 4 contenders Manchester United at 36/37 years of age especially with the way Ronaldo looks after himself and lack of serious injuries.

I don't understand the difference. Especially when Ronaldo is a genuine GOAT and the best goal scorer statistically of all-time.

the media and pundits in England are horrible with the agendas. Sadly a lot of fans fall for it judging by the comments in this thread too Sad.

the media and fans didn't go on about Zlatans pressing when he played and started ALL the games for Manchester United. And he was around Ronaldo's age! It's a disgrace.

Milan are 4 points behind Inter and starting 40 year epic Benjamin Buffoon Zlatan is a big part of why they won’t win anything.

DRJosh · Dec 29, 2021

Our players need RR's version of Fergie's hairdryer treatment

tomaldinho1 · Dec 29, 2021

I’m feeling weirdly optimistic about tomorrow

SAF is the GOAT · Dec 29, 2021

Phil said:
I really wouldn't be against seeing Mejbri involved somewhere in some way. We're so desperate for creativity in midfield.

its not only the creativity(its also that) but most of all our team play is horrendous

Ferguson’s Hairdryer · Dec 30, 2021

De Gea
Dalot Varane Bailey Telles
VDB MCTominay Fred
Sancho Greenwood Amad

Marcus · Dec 30, 2021

I am looking forward to this one. I think we are due a good performance and hopefully we can see Ralf's tactics actually executed in the game.

arthurka · Dec 30, 2021

How many beers are needed to enjoy this shit. Watch these long ball enthusiast give us a hard work and tough to watch 0-0 and DDG makes another TV save.

Giggsy13 · Dec 30, 2021

I think we go 4-2-2-2 again:

De Gea

Dalot Varane Lindelof Telles

VDB Fred

Sancho Greenwood

Ronaldo Cavani

sunama · Dec 30, 2021

MiceOnMeth said:
Really struggling to be in any way excited for this. More Morbid curiosity of how good we can make Burnley look

We specialise in making average or below average sides look like world beaters.

Real Name · Dec 30, 2021

DWelbz19 said:
Milan are 4 points behind Inter and starting 40 year epic Benjamin Buffoon Zlatan is a big part of why they won’t win anything.

They're still close.

Nou_Camp99 · Dec 30, 2021

SAF is the GOAT said:
Did the team even trained today and prepared for the game ?

They spent a whole week preparing for the Newcastle game and put in the most pathetic performance of the season where we gave
the ball away the most times of any PL fixture we've had all season.

Whatever this team does is training is clearly not good enough.

Hester_manc · Dec 30, 2021

As I hope we line up:

--------------------De Gea--------

Bissaka-Bailly-Varane-Shaw

----------McTominay-Fred-----------
----------Greenwood-Sancho---------
----------Rashford--Cavani------------

I do not think that Dalot or Telles are good enough to play for United. Telles might even be the worst left back, I can remember playing regularly for us.

Djemba-Djemba · Dec 30, 2021

Why's it such a late kick off?

8:15 kick off is stupid

AngeloHenriquez · Dec 30, 2021

Nordmore said:
Ronaldo doesn't deserve to start this match, nor has the legs. Greenwood only played 45' last match so my bet is:

Cavani Greenwood
Rashford Sancho
Donny Fred
Shaw Maguire Varane Dalot
DDG

Maybe Donny for Rashford then McT plays.

I'd like to see Rashford back with Shaw. These two generally work pretty well together and Telles was crap last match.

Looking forward to see Cavani with Greenwood up top.

I'm sorry, "Ronaldo doesn't deserve to start this match" yet you start Rashford? Ronaldo hasn't had the ball enough up top with his graveyard shift, hospital ball after hospital ball from those behind, he's shown he has the legs and that's not an issue but he needs a foil. Martial or Cavani would suit Ronaldo up top for me

Real Name · Dec 30, 2021

Nou_Camp99 said:
They spent a whole week preparing for the Newcastle game and put in the most pathetic performance of the season where we gave
the ball away the most times of any PL fixture we've had all season.

Whatever this team does is training is clearly not good enough.

They didnt have the whole weak, I think they started training in full capacity on Friday.

Nou_Camp99 · Dec 30, 2021

Real Name said:
They didnt have the whole weak, I think they started training in full capacity on Friday.

3 days as a full group and 2 days staggered return before it is still a decent amount of time to come up with better than what we saw.

Barthez · Dec 30, 2021

Real Name · Dec 30, 2021

Nou_Camp99 said:
3 days as a full group and 2 days staggered return before it is still a decent amount of time to come up with better than what we saw.

I'm not saying it's not but there was a long break and just 3 days of training.

Nordmore · Dec 30, 2021

AngeloHenriquez said:
I'm sorry, "Ronaldo doesn't deserve to start this match" yet you start Rashford? Ronaldo hasn't had the ball enough up top with his graveyard shift, hospital ball after hospital ball from those behind, he's shown he has the legs and that's not an issue but he needs a foil. Martial or Cavani would suit Ronaldo up top for me

Because in contrast with a large amount of the caf posters imo Rashford has been our best attacker among the starters in the last two matches. The best in a bad bunch.

Many were understandbly frustrating with his repeative failed efforts but in fact, to my entrained eyes he was probably the only one tried to do anything with some purpose while Ronaldo was basicaly non existent. Imo Ronaldo was effectively the worst player in the last two matches. He repeatedly failed even the most basics of a footballer like touch, shield the ball, pass, dribble.

You can check my posts in the Ronaldo performance thread and continue this discussion there if you'd like to. It's been discussing to death there so no need to start all over again here I think.

VanDeBank · Dec 30, 2021

I want to see a reaction from Rangnick. Dropping big names, etc.
Don't really care about the players. They can do one.

Alemar · Dec 30, 2021

VP89 said:
Wonder if Rangnick has just dropped players who are waiting out their contracts.

hopefully

LARulz · Dec 30, 2021

I just don't want to see a 4-2-2-2 again

It makes our wide players and Bruno all useless

DickDastardly · Dec 30, 2021

I'd like to see Shaw back.
Don't want to see AWB though.

Also, could VDB please start?
Aaaaand could we see Sancho and Greenwood please?

Also, i wouldn't like to see Rashford.

DDG
Dalot - Varane - Eric - Shaw
Fred
Greenwood - VDB - Sancho
Cavani - Ronaldo

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