You can replay the foul as many times as you like, Sky, it's still a goal. 
FA Premier League
Manchester United 1:1 Liverpool
Old Trafford
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Never lost a home PL game we've led at half time. Oh dear.Decent first half considering the circumstances. If we can hold on to this lead and get the three points, there's a reason to be more optimistic again with Pogba, Martial and Shaw coming back into the team next week.NBC yank saying the handball rule is bad because he didn't mean to do it.
Then goes on to say it hits Lindelof's hand between Mane's handball and him scoring (doesn't mention he didn't mean to do it or that it doesn't matter in the slightest because Mane gained an advantage first by handballing it).
Our first goal was legitimate.. After the so called foul of Origi, McT passed to James, James ran half the pitch and crossed the ball.. how long do you go back ?The way Origi went down was totally exaggerated and unnatural, and probably didn't help his cause.I do agree though the referee should be asked to go and look at the monitor in those situations. Trying to have a VAR official decide whether the referee failed to spot something or not, and whether there is enough evidence to overturn, is a bit ridiculous - because they never overturn anything. Let the ref look at it when in doubt and he can decide whether something was worse than he thought, or he failed to spot something entirely.
All that said, I'm very happy with the way VAR Is being applied today - for obvious reasons.
I don't think it's a foul. He was looking for it, already going down in stages, and once he felt the kick he collapsed.We were the better side first half.I respect Klopp as a manager but sometimes he acts like a prat and the look on he's face after both VAR decisions has made my day regardless of the result but if we play 2nd half like 1st then we've got this in the bag..l
that's it.
Unless he needs up a bit like nctom had done, otherwise move aside
Oh no,I'm been rumbled.You’re a Scouser?
Lindelof almost always have one major mistake per game. He should be dropped for Tuanzebe.Souness trying to argue that a tap on his left shin causes Origi to turn to his left and push off his right foot in order to throw himself to the deck.
It's such an obvious dive.
Pereira is doing well in the middle third, combative and working hard but he's got to do better with the ball at his feet. He's the one that should be looking to create out of this midfield and he's falling well short in that area.
Definitely the best Utd have played. But that was no surprise really? VAR will damage Utd's chances of being able to get rid of Ole. I'm happy to sacrifice 2/3 points to see him stay until the summer.
I think that's the kind of tip he mentioned Ole is trying to give them as a striker. To change course in the run. He did that and it gave him loads of space to kill Allison.
Exactly. I remember Ivan Cordoba who played for Inter Milan, not the biggest guy, not the tallest but the guy was a beast. A real tough no nonsense defender
Agreed. Didn't mean it too dismissively and I'm hoping we use it as confidence for the second half.
Hit them on the counter as they'll come out firing.
We will not lose. We will concede goal,no question about it but we will not lose
Agreed mate.
Both the players and manager deserve credit for this performance, no matter how it ends up.
It makes sense though, especially after the Henry handball versus Ireland all those years ago.
If the same applies to defenders you'd just get attackers trying to kick it against their arms. You see some players try that from time to time.Fred off for martial and push AP back into midfield.
Most probably he was talking about soccerNBC yank saying the handball rule is bad because he didn't mean to do it.
Then goes on to say it hits Lindelof's hand between Mane's handball and him scoring (doesn't mention he didn't mean to do it or that it doesn't matter in the slightest because Mane gained an advantage first by handballing it).
NBC yank saying the handball rule is bad because he didn't mean to do it.
Then goes on to say it hits Lindelof's hand between Mane's handball and him scoring (doesn't mention he didn't mean to do it or that it doesn't matter in the slightest because Mane gained an advantage first by handballing it).
Marne was halfway down before he was supposedly touch a clear and a yellow card,FFS.Am I the only one that didn't think that was a foul on Origi?
Good half from us, the best we've played for some time. Let's hope we keep it tight at the back and hopefully hit them on the counter.The facts is with those fouls, you see them givenand see see them not given. The hand ball is hand ball in the current rules.Origi dived. Pretty simple. Contact does not mean a foul ffsBy far our best half this season. Massive second half coming and a result that will boost us a lot in the league table.
I agree
dives like this happen all the time and teams get given them and we move on
but to pull a goal back to the other end of the pitch for one would be way wayy too farLindelof does not fill me with confidence.
Oh shit, I forgot about that
and you just know they'll be banging on about that stat praying it finally dies.
I think it very likely will though
We've been very good. I'm quite surprised. I only hope we can bring it over the line. We'll need that all important (ridiculously elusive) second goal.
Var is only playing what it should have done, it also took points from United so it's only fair. And so far, perfect decisions. You guys should never get all those decisions for you when you don't deserve them.Definitely the best Utd have played. But that was no surprise really? VAR will damage Utd's chances of being able to get rid of Ole. I'm happy to sacrifice 2/3 points to see him stay until the summer.
Sounds is such a whining asshole.Least we got our consolation goal early, Liverpool will turn up second half though.come on Ole, get off the seat and come put pressure on the refs FFS, its the worlds biggest derby!Sourness at his bitterest
That cheater Mane did it in CL finals
I’d be happy with him as a squad option.
He is so annoying not just on this instance. CluelessNBC yank saying the handball rule is bad because he didn't mean to do it.
Then goes on to say it hits Lindelof's hand between Mane's handball and him scoring (doesn't mention he didn't mean to do it or that it doesn't matter in the slightest because Mane gained an advantage first by handballing it).
Mourinho was right before the game, we haven't got the quality or tactical ability to outsmart Liverpool - gotta show heart.
And that's what we've seen in the first half.
Andreas typifies this. Not the best midfielder, some bad decision making, but he's focused and giving it his all.Origi dived.
That was clear.Jose about to do some actual analysis of play and formations so gets cut short to make way for more foul/no-foul discussions.- Status
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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27%
Marcus Rashford
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20%
Andreas Pereira
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4%
Scott McTominay
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3%
Aaron Wan-Bissaka
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3%
Fred
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3%
Harry Maguire
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1%
David de Gea
Player Ratings
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Compiled from 457 ratings.
Score Predictions
164,534,87
- Man Utd win
- Liverpool win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 20% Man Utd 0:3 Liverpool
- 12% Man Utd 0:2 Liverpool
- 12% Man Utd 0:5 Liverpool
- 7% Man Utd 0:4 Liverpool
- 7% Man Utd 2:1 Liverpool
- 7% Man Utd 1:3 Liverpool
- 6% Man Utd 1:0 Liverpool
- 6% Man Utd 1:1 Liverpool
- 5% Man Utd 1:2 Liverpool
- 4% Man Utd 0:0 Liverpool
- 3% Man Utd 2:0 Liverpool
- 3% Man Utd 1:4 Liverpool
- 1% Man Utd 5:0 Liverpool
- 1% Man Utd 2:2 Liverpool
- 1% Man Utd 0:1 Liverpool
- 1% Man Utd 3:0 Liverpool
- 1% Man Utd 4:0 Liverpool
- 1% Man Utd 2:3 Liverpool
- 1% Man Utd 3:2 Liverpool
- 1% Man Utd 1:5 Liverpool
- 1% Man Utd 3:1 Liverpool
- 0% Man Utd 4:1 Liverpool
- 0% Man Utd 4:2 Liverpool
- 0% Man Utd 2:4 Liverpool
Match Stats
- Man Utd
- Liverpool
- Possession
- 32% 68%
- Shots
- 7 10
- Shots on Target
- 2 4
- Corners
- 3 1
- Fouls
- 6 14
Referee
Martin Atkinson
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