Manchester United 0:0 Manchester City

dpansheth · Dec 12, 2020

VeevaVee said:
Stones “I think we can take a lot away from that game”

no one is taking anything away from that game

1 point

wolvored · Dec 12, 2020

Thought we were 10 points clear at the top. What a poor poor game. No urgency to get 3 points at all. This we need 5 subs as the players

Gasolin said:
We play to win. We need control in the midfield, that's why we have that team today.

You were saying?

NJM78 · Dec 12, 2020

Giggsy13 said:
Whole calendar year? Are you fecking mad or just have selective memory. The only way some of you will be happy is if we go 38-0. It’s a draw at home to city. This result won’t dictate how our season goes, it’s the games we’re supposed to be winning that have cost us but we have managed to beat west ham and Southampton, so we’re trending in the right direction.

My memory is fine, it's exactly what I said, we have played 15 home league games in 2020 and won 6.

I'm not fecking mad either, are you a fecking moron?

Gasolin · Dec 12, 2020

Footy van de Geek said:
Home draws are never a good result. Never. Unless it's against Brazil 1970 or Barcelona 2011.

We won't find it as easy on the road when fans return to away grounds. Our home form might improve, but we will drop more points away as a counter balance.

This draw confirmed for me that neither of these teams will be competing for the league this season.

Liverpool and Spurs, and then possible Chelsea as outsiders (especially if they win later).

I think you're being harsh on both teams. Again, we are structurally very solid. The goals we have conceded almost always come from individual mistakes. Remove them and we will always be hard to beat. That's a team that can win.

And this season, I am sure Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea will all struggle. In fact, the only team that has enough depth as it stands is Chelsea.

Giggsy13 · Dec 12, 2020

NJM78 said:
My memory is fine, it's exactly what I said, we have played 15 home league games in 2020 and won 6.

I'm no I'm not fecking mad either, are you a fecking moron?

You said whole calendar year you fecking shithead, so that includes the restart as well. You’re insufferable as ever.

What most supporters can handle is fair critique but twisting narratives, selective memory to suit your arguments just shows how small time you are.

Footy van de Geek · Dec 12, 2020

Gasolin said:
I think you're being harsh on both teams. Again, we are structurally very solid. The goals we have conceded almost always come from individual mistakes. Remove them and we will always be hard to beat. That's a team that can win.

And this season, I am sure Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea will all struggle. In fact, the only team that has enough depth as it stands is Chelsea.

Whatever you're trying to sell me, I'm not buying. I have the complete opposite view.

I'm 100% Ole out. You obviously see things the way you want to see them. I don't agree.

Giggsy13 · Dec 12, 2020

Footy van de Geek said:
You are saying our home form will improve, based on no evidence.

I am saying our away form will nosedive.

Works both ways.

Right cause 4,000 supporters are really going to make a huge difference. Even when we accomplish something, which is a very good start on our away record, the insufferables step to twist the narrative to suit their argument.

keithsingleton · Dec 12, 2020

VeevaVee said:
Stones “I think we can take a lot away from that game”

no one is taking anything away from that game

Couldn't believe what he said myself. :lol:

NJM78 · Dec 12, 2020

Giggsy13 said:
You said whole calendar year you fecking shithead, so that includes the restart as well. You’re insufferable as ever.

What most supporters can handle is fair critique but twisting narratives, selective memory to suit your arguments just shows how small time you are.

Calender year started January 1st 2020.
In 2020 we have played 15 league games at Old Trafford. We have won 6 of them you complete fecking bellend!

sparx99 · Dec 12, 2020

Gasolin said:
Not even Liverpool plays like that. There is a very good team on the other side. Who dominates them with 60% possession and high tempo? Nobody will.

Sure, but we should be trying to. Put it another way; did we try to win that game?
Because I don’t think we did. We were never willing to take any risks to try and win it.

Footy van de Geek · Dec 12, 2020

Giggsy13 said:
Right cause 4,000 supporters are really going to make a huge difference. Even when we accomplish something, which is a very good start on our away record, the insufferables step to twist the narrative to suit their argument.

There will be a lot more fans than that come March. Brexit, baby. Britannia rules how it wants.

sparx99 · Dec 12, 2020

Footy van de Geek said:
So by that logic, our away form can get worse when fans return to grounds we visit.

Works both ways.

The form home and away is partly because of who we’ve played. We could well lose away to these same big teams.

Footy van de Geek · Dec 12, 2020

sparx99 said:
The form home and away is partly because of who we’ve played. We could well lose away to these same big teams.

Our home form is bad because teams aren't as intimidated playing United at an empty OT.

And our away form is better because teams don't have The FA Cup final atmosphere that they usually generate when United come to town.

Godfather · Dec 12, 2020

Giggsy13 said:
Whole calendar year? Are you fecking mad or just have selective memory. The only way some of you will be happy is if we go 38-0. It’s a draw at home to city. This result won’t dictate how our season goes, it’s the games we’re supposed to be winning that have cost us but we have managed to beat west ham and Southampton, so we’re trending in the right direction.

We sure are :lol:

GifLord · Dec 12, 2020

Micah is embarrassing with his Pogba defense :houllier:

Giggsy13 · Dec 12, 2020

I really do hope the Ole out insufferables are around when things start going well. Our poor home form in 2020 is down to several factors including fatigue during the restart and a lack of pre-season, which cost us against palace and Spurs. We were organized in this game and well drilled from the start and that is a good sign. 5 games unbeaten in the league and some winnable games in the league this month.

Renegade · Dec 12, 2020

GifLord said:
Micah is embarrassing with his Pogba defense

Another reason why Pogba has to go. This conversation has become so boring.

dalriada · Dec 12, 2020

buckooo1978 said:
joke

I saw last week the infection rate was less than London so wondered were any changes being made

Yes, don't know if London is getting preferential treatment here, but from what I can see most of the London boroughs are about the same as Trafford.

Dirty Schwein · Dec 12, 2020

GifLord said:
Micah is embarrassing with his Pogba defense

He's so useless.

The presenter kept asking questions to Keane and Neville because Richards brings nothing to the table.

Then he starts asking questions acting like the presenter because he felt like a useless clown.

Then he starts chatting shit with regards to Pogba and when he knew he's not going to win the arguement, he starts shouting stupid jokes and laughing like an idiot.

This is pretty much what he contributes every time he's on TV.

The bit about hugging Keane was just cringe, especially when Keane just ignored him.

Can't stand him.

Bondi77 · Dec 12, 2020

I think it was quite clear that only one team was trying to win the game and one was going to be very happy to get a point.
Why is it that in comparison to City we are so slow at moving the ball and are so slow at pressing from the front.
Why do we consistently go with the routine passing of De gea to Lindelof to Maguire back to Lindelof then a dodgy pass to AWB who is the worst passer in the team and then possession is given away.
It is a pet hate of mine when a team that has a supposed team value in the hundreds of millions can go into a game with a sole tactic of parking the bus and if this is going to be a regular tactic of Ole's then he will lose me as a fan very quickly.

ghaliboy · Dec 12, 2020

giggs-beckham said:
Y

You always say that man.

Okay, when we get back 0-0 I'll call your folks..

A-man · Dec 12, 2020

Forevergiggs1 said:
Complaining that 5 subs aren't allowed then both teams bring on 1 sub in the 85th minute

I think both managers were quite happy with how their players performed. Greenwood out,Martial in was kind of safe, but subbing a midfielder would have been taking a chance/risk.

Machine Elements · Dec 12, 2020

Bondi77 said:
I think it was quite clear that only one team was trying to win the game and one was going to be very happy to get a point.
Why is it that in comparison to City we are so slow at moving the ball and are so slow at pressing from the front.
Why do we consistently go with the routine passing of De gea to Lindelof to Maguire back to Lindelof then a dodgy pass to AWB who is the worst passer in the team and then possession is given away.
It is a pet hate of mine when a team that has a supposed team value in the hundreds of millions can go into a game with a sole tactic of parking the bus and if this is going to be a regular tactic of Ole's then he will lose me as a fan very quickly.

Worst thing is it wasn't acceptable to park the bus and counter in Mourinho era. It wasn't good enough when we didn't attack enough in LVG era. But somehow it's perfectly fine to do that under Ole for some fans. Did we spent that much money to play that on the back foot, reactive, antagonist and negative football?

giggs-beckham · Dec 12, 2020

ghaliboy said:
Okay, when we get back 0-0 I'll call your folks..

It was a quote from the film Aliens.

giggs-beckham · Dec 12, 2020

ghaliboy said:
Okay, when we get back 0-0 I'll call your folks..

Oww I just watched it again I didn't remember about the call your folks bit. Great film my 1 favourite.

Bondi77 · Dec 13, 2020

Machine Elements said:
Worst thing is it wasn't acceptable to park the bus and counter in Mourinho era. It wasn't good enough when we didn't attack enough in LVG era. But somehow it's perfectly fine to do that under Ole for some fans. Did we spent that much money to play that on the back foot, reactive, antagonist and negative football?

I am not going to put Ole in the same basket as our two previous managers as the style of football employed by those two muppets was the worst I have witnessed in my time supporting this great club.
Ole thinks the team is improving so I will give him til the end of the season and see where we end up as we have at times played some scintillating stuff going forward.

ghaliboy · Dec 13, 2020

giggs-beckham said:
Oww I just watched it again I didn't remember about the call your folks bit. Great film my 1 favourite.

I think I've only ever seen the directors cut and on VHS as a kid :lol:

VHS taped off of TV which means nudey bits and swearing is to a minimum. Maybe it wasn't in the original cut.

"Hey Maguire...... Have you ever been mistaken for an elite defender?..."
"No...... have you?...."
"ohh Maguire, you're just too bad.."

mitchmouse · Dec 13, 2020

Big Ben Foster said:
SAF is on the advisory board which has no real power (it's purely ceremonial, unlike the real board). So what would be the point in sacking him other than creating unnecessary drama?

are you telling me he has played no part in selecting - then sacking - the wrong men to succeed him? I think he might have more power than you think, but ad I said the whole board is proving useless. SAF was never afraid to take difficult decisions...

Sassy Colin · Dec 13, 2020

Meanwhile, I got 17 points in the line up prediction game. A first for me and a personal triumph!

Mike Oxard · Dec 13, 2020

In all my years watching Derby games, that one is up there with the worst ever. The only one that comes close is when we went to City the other year and tried to shut up shop. No ambition from us despite playing at home (and yes, I realise there were no fans etc), hardly any ambition from them despite us being there for the taking, neither goalkeeper with a save to make, no urgency, no creativity, no entertainment from either side. Those two sides are nowhere near the Title. It’s already Liverpool’s to lose. Absolutely dreadful.

KekiZeki · Dec 16, 2020

Footy van de Geek said:
We are now consistently shit at home, while good on our travels.

Needs to be more balanced.

Obviously, and it is a weird one. But I guess home form should be easier to improve, especially after having fans back on the stand. It should improve on it's own. We had a huge empty stadium and it was depressing to play in, not that it is a justification but it is a fact.

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