Manchester United 0:0 Newcastle United

DomesticTadpole · Aug 22, 2015

Red Dreams said:
van Gaal should simply have started 4-3-3.

Herrera should have started.

This was the game to play it. It's alright having a sytem but if other teams suss it out and put a shift it then you might get nothing. You have to be able to change depending on the games.

MrSingh2002 · Aug 22, 2015

What happened to beating the teams we should beat? The way our players seem to have to pass in certain patterns pisses me off. Lose any pressure that you may be building against the opposition.

OldRed73 · Aug 22, 2015

marukomu said:
Right. Back to the transfer muppet threads.

Don't worry - Neymar is coming

minoo-utd · Aug 22, 2015

We need someone who can finish this. Really Rooney just cant. These games ( at home ) when end this way is fecking sad.

antohan · Aug 22, 2015

Offside said:
Lost the ball practically every time he went near it. Atleast he was trying to make things happen but it wasn't his day atall.

Agree, Memphis seemed to be a bit overeager after his midweek exploits and all he showed is he still has some way to go. No bother, happened often enough with Cristiano when he first arrived.

Darmian is a cracking rightback but really really needs to work on his crossing. That's the main reason I liked the Pedro idea, Darmian overlappping Mata is all well and good but his delivery isn't up to scratch.

marukomu · Aug 22, 2015

OldRed73 said:
Don't worry - Neymar is coming

He was seen in Timperley apparently.

LazyRed-Ninja · Aug 22, 2015

DomesticTadpole said:
Why? They defended well. We couldn't hit a elephant arse with a banjo. That is our fault.

The block from Coloccini was pure kamikaze. He just shoved his back to the ball and hoped for the best. They had their dodgy moments, but in the end we just lacked a bit of luck today.

Offside · Aug 22, 2015

antohan said:
Agree, Memphis seemed to be a bit overeager after his midweek exploits and all he showed is he still has some way to go. No bother, happened often enough with Cristiano when he first arrived.

Darmian is a cracking rightback but really really needs to work on his crossing. That's the main reason I liked the Pedro idea, Darmian overlappping Mata is all well and good but his delivery isn't up to scratch.

Will agree with that although it is a lot better than the shite Valencia serves up.

Summit · Aug 22, 2015

@Damien, how are points given for line up prediction? Where do I find the rules?

Ozio · Aug 22, 2015

At least Rooney looked a bit better when he dropped back to #10.

Red Dreams · Aug 22, 2015

DomesticTadpole said:
This was the game to play it. It's alright having a sytem but if other teams suss it out and put a shift it then you might get nothing. You have to be able to change depending on the games.

respect van Gaal..but his stubborness....ahhhh

we would be scoring freely if we simply reverted to 4-3-3.

Bastian is too slow in this formation. Carrick improved things immediately he came on.

Rooney was fine. Memphis really should have been pulled after 60 minutes.

If Young and Herrera had played instead of Januzaj and Memphis we would have won the match.

Kakeru · Aug 22, 2015

antohan said:
Darmian is a cracking rightback but really really needs to work on his crossing. That's the main reason I liked the Pedro idea, Darmian overlappping Mata is all well and good but his delivery isn't up to scratch.

This. We really lacked someone who can offer up something different on the right flank.

OldRed73 · Aug 22, 2015

Fair play to the 1% who predicted the 0-0

antohan · Aug 22, 2015

Rednotdead said:
In what way? 2 goals in 3 PL games, 2 of which were at home. Poor, poor stuff.

This time last season we were conceding five to Leicester. It's obvious we need to improve our cutting edge upfront, but the foundations are there, and before they weren't. It's unlucky Fellaini was suspended, he would have had a field day out there today.

ScarleyUtd · Aug 22, 2015

Not a disaster. One of those games where you hope it spurs the club on to doing what's necessary. Signing a forward and working on final balls and finishing for example.

NJM78 · Aug 22, 2015

Very ordinary except first 20 where our finishing sucked ass. The rest was bad, forward play average at best, passes in final third were very dodgy and Newcastle are pure shite so overall a terrible result for me when the likes of Swansea and Liverpool on horizon. That's only 5 goals in our last 9 prem games and Rooney now gone 10 without a goal.

3KDré · Aug 22, 2015

Don't know why everyone has their knickers in a twist? We played well today, especially in the first half. And our subs improved us for once (bar Valencia). It was very unlucky of us to not get a goal too, and Rooney was better than his last few games. People must have patience, you could clearly see that in the second half Newcastle parked the bus, yet we were still managing some good moments. I'm sure we will get our game flowing soon. It has only been three EPL games, in which we have been doing better than our rivals (aside from City).

Damien · Aug 22, 2015

Summit said:
@Damien, how are points given for line up prediction? Where do I find the rules?

https://www.redcafe.net/lineup-predictions/2015-16/rules

Summit · Aug 22, 2015

Damien said:
https://www.redcafe.net/lineup-predictions/2015-16/rules

cheers

Lennon7 · Aug 22, 2015

Memphis was a bit shit today, and Valencia just slowed us down so much. God knows why he took Darmian off.

OldRed73 · Aug 22, 2015

On the bright side we play Bruges next

.. and Fellaini is available

Rednotdead · Aug 22, 2015

antohan said:
This time last season we were conceding five to Leicester. It's obvious we need to improve our cutting edge upfront, but the foundations are there, and before they weren't. It's unlucky Fellaini was suspended, he would have had a field day out there today.

A quarter of a million spent and 12 months to work on the "project". We should have more than mere foundations.

Giggs86 · Aug 22, 2015

We have to sign a striker until the end of the window, otherwise we are properly fecked. If Fellaini would have played today rest assured we would have gotten the three points. But we can't count of Fellaini to be our number one striker for the whole season.

justboy68 · Aug 22, 2015

We really look like we are just a top level goalscoring striker away from being a force. Could have easily won today with a bit of luck, it was just one of those games where the ball was intent on avoiding the net like the plague.

Offside · Aug 22, 2015

Rednotdead said:
A quarter of a million spent and 12 months to work on the "project". We should have more than mere foundations.

We are a much better team. Maybe if you were expecting him to break up Moyes's shite in a year and win the League title then you should be disappointed. He has not done the perfect job and the jury is obviously still out but United are much improved.

We were gaping open this time last year, had so much more mediocre shite hanging around and our overall play has improved.

Rednotdead · Aug 22, 2015

Giggs86 said:
We have to sign a striker until the end of the window, otherwise we are properly fecked. If Fellaini would have played today rest assured we would have gotten the three points. But we can't count of Fellaini to be our number one striker for the whole season.

The mere fact that we have to rely on him should tell us there's something very far wrong.

Havak · Aug 22, 2015

lysglimt said:
this isn't unlucky - it's lack of skills. For all our possession and half-chances we created 2-3 big chances - and Newcastle's 2 best chances were equally big as ours

More looking toward Rooney's offside goal - could have easily been given. Along with a few blocks and deflected shots that on another day go our way. In the grand scheme of things I can't say Newcastle didn't deserve the point, but we did play OK and got the ball out wide often (should have done better with crosses).

Rednotdead · Aug 22, 2015

Offside said:
We are a much better team. Maybe if you were expecting him to break up Moyes's shite in a year and win the League title then you should be disappointed. He has not done the perfect job and the jury is obviously still out but United are much improved.

We were gaping open this time last year, had so much more mediocre shite hanging around and our overall play has improved.

I wasn't expecting us to win the league, but I was expecting more than a marginal improvement. I repeat, a quarter of a million spent.

Giggs86 · Aug 22, 2015

Rednotdead said:
The mere fact that we have to rely on him should tell us there's something very far wrong.

That's exactly the point. We have to bring in a world class striker. I hope that every decision maker who has a say in that saw that clearly today.

antohan · Aug 22, 2015

Rednotdead said:
A quarter of a million spent and 12 months to work on the "project". We should have more than mere foundations.

Not mere, strong, and we were a mess. Di María/Falcao were largely smokescreens to make a point at a time when sponsors and transfer targets may have regarded us as the new Liverpool (7th, no Europe, etc.). This has been the first proper transfer window LvG has had having assessed the squad in its entirety. Seems to me all the business he has done is excellent.

And a quarter of a million is what Rooney makes in a week, in case you haven't noticed.

antohan · Aug 22, 2015

Rednotdead said:
I wasn't expecting us to win the league, but I was expecting more than a marginal improvement. I repeat, a quarter of a million spent.

I repeat, PEANUTS! :lol:

This is too funny, shouting "a quarter of a million" from the rooftops.

Blue always red · Aug 22, 2015

Best match in ages could have been 5-0 to us. More of the same

revel911 · Aug 22, 2015

I dont think we played bad .... just need to convert chances.

Red-Jeff · Aug 22, 2015

TitusCrumble said:
Don't know why everyone has their knickers in a twist? We played well today, especially in the first half. And our subs improved us for once (bar Valencia). It was very unlucky of us to not get a goal too, and Rooney was better than his last few games. People must have patience, you could clearly see that in the second half Newcastle parked the bus, yet we were still managing some good moments. I'm sure we will get our game flowing soon. It has only been three EPL games, in which we have been doing better than our rivals (aside from City).

Completely agree, we played well and got a bit unlucky. Wasted some chances and had a goal ruled offside incorrectly, could have been a completely different game if that wasn't ruled offside. Memphis was really poor today, trying too hard to make something happen. He will get better though, the talent is definitely there. Thought Mata looked great today, so many little 1-2's and played some really dangerous balls in, granted he had a few picked off but that is bound to happen when you're consistently looking for that final incisive pass. Even though he started wide Mata was our de facto #10 today. Midfield and defense both looked great today.

JPRouve · Aug 22, 2015

Rednotdead said:
I wasn't expecting us to win the league, but I was expecting more than a marginal improvement. I repeat, a quarter of a million spent.

You can't throw numbers like that, look at who left and why, we basically had to rebuild a team because of the age.

antohan · Aug 22, 2015

Rednotdead said:
The mere fact that we have to rely on him should tell us there's something very far wrong.

No, it just tells you that in a physical league like the EPL, when teams park the bus, a presence like Fellaini's is important.

What was the closest we got to scoring? Smalling header hitting the post. Join the dots.

Rednotdead · Aug 22, 2015

antohan said:
No, it just tells you that in a physical league like the EPL, when teams park the bus, a presence like Fellaini's is important.

What was the closest we got to scoring? Smalling header hitting the post. Join the dots.

Strange how Man City, Arsenal and Chelsea manage to get along quite well without a Fellaini of their own.

Tonjo · Aug 22, 2015

Charlie Austin is the only available striker that can batter those typical "park the bus" defence. Sign Mane and Austin for plan A and plan B.

JPRouve · Aug 22, 2015

Rednotdead said:
Strange how Man City, Arsenal and Chelsea manage to get along quite well without a Fellaini of their own.

Because those teams don't have Giroud, Touré or Diego Costa.

antohan · Aug 22, 2015

Rednotdead said:
Strange how Man City, Arsenal and Chelsea manage to get along quite well without a Fellaini of their own.

They too lose or draw games they should be winning. Arsenal got twatted by bloody West Ham ffs!

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