Manchester United 0:1 Real Sociedad

kirk buttercup · Sep 4, 2022

Leonzo1 said:
Rotation is necessary although we still need to keep momentum. Changing the entire back four against A decent Sociedad is risky and I won't be shocked if we drop points here.

DDG
AWB Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Casemiro Fred
Antony VDB Garancho
Ronaldo

This team please

Havak · Sep 4, 2022

I think we might play a stronger XI than some on here are expecting, but it's also hard to not see Maguire, Casemiro, Fred, and Ronaldo coming into the starting line-up at least.

By stronger XI, I basically mean closer to the one that started against Arsenal even though some players arguably improve the side by coming in.

Dubravka
Dalot Varane Maguire Malacia
Casemiro Fred
Antony Bruno Sancho
Ronaldo

Sub on Wan-Bissaka, Shaw, Donny, and hopefully Garnacho and Martial if fit.

dannyrhinos89 · Sep 4, 2022

We need to get our europa off to a good start so I'd keep the team largely the same.

Ronaldo, casemiro to start though.

The Firestarter · Sep 4, 2022

Honestly I don't give a shit about the EL , play the reserves.

AjaxCunian · Sep 4, 2022

No Donny as a 10 please, it doesn't work. Bruno will have to come save him.

He can't carry the responsibility of being the creator, he benefits of other well playing and creating players, by making good use of space.

Revan · Sep 4, 2022

De Gea

Dalot Lindelof Maguire Shaw

Casemiro Fred

Antony Bruno Garnacho

Ronaldo

With VDB and Elanga replacing Antony and Bruno with half an hour to go.

wangyu · Sep 4, 2022

You guys realize we play sociedad right? Is the overall arrogance after 4 wins on the trot already setting in? Shouldn’t we be more humble considering we are playing a la liga team. Our record versus Spanish opposition is abysmal and that is not just versus real or barca but all teams bar Valencia.
Let these stats sip in for a minute. Don’t take this game lightly.

Clubs	Matches	Win	Draw	Defeat	Goals
Manchester United vs. Spain	64	18	24	22	78-82

jderbyshire · Sep 4, 2022

I agree with @Havak - I don't think there'll be wholesale changes.

Even though we're doing well at the moment, I still maintain we need to try and win the Europa League because Top 4 is going to be very tough.

Play a strong side, rest whoever really needs it. Qualify, then play the kids in the last couple of games.

De Gea
Dalot - Maguire - Martinez - Shaw
Casemiro
Bruno - Fred
Anthony - Ronaldo - Sancho

TMDaines · Sep 4, 2022

FiveThirtyEight have little between the two sides on their modelling with us being the 25th and 27th best sides in Europe. I definitely feel we are trending upwards, but this will still be a tough game. Hopefully the manager will want to make a good start in the competition whilst the team is still fresh and take it from there. Many of our regular subs will start here, but it won’t be full rotation and nor should it. We’ll have a strong bench too. People expecting Iqbal and Savage to play are watching the wrong United team.

DDG/Dubravka
Dalot Lindelöf Maguire Shaw
Casemiro Fred
Antony DVB* Elanga
Ronaldo

*Bruno if DVB is injured as not on the bench today.

CarbonStoolBites · Sep 4, 2022

wangyu said:
You guys realize we play sociedad right? Is the overall arrogance after 4 wins on the trot already setting in? Shouldn’t we be more humble considering we are playing a la liga team. Our record versus Spanish opposition is abysmal and that is not just versus real or barca but all teams bar Valencia.
Let these stats sip in for a minute. Don’t take this game lightly.

Clubs Matches Win Draw Defeat Goals
Manchester United vs. Spain 64 18 24 22 78-82

Yep, no idea what people are on about, sending the youth and posting lineups with Ole’s horrific back 4, new goalie, kids and Van de Beek.
We have other easier matches in this group.

Some players need a rest, some need minutes but you can’t just field an entirely different XI against a very good La Liga side and expect to get anything out of the game, this isn’t Grimsby at home in the league cup.

Lets get a result to keep the momentum going here.

avgp_1 · Sep 4, 2022

They have really looked impressive so far this season whenever I've watched then. That scoreline against Barca was rather unfair and were well worth the point against Atleti.

Midfield of Silva, Zubimendi, Merino is very good in possession. New signings Ali-Cho and Sadiq will be a handfull. It won't be a walk in the park

slored1 · Sep 4, 2022

Dubravka
AWB - Maguire - Lindelof - Shaw
Fred - Casemiro
Antony - Van de Beek/Bruno - Elanga
Ronaldo

3-1 United.

diarm · Sep 4, 2022

Ronaldo, Casemiro and Varane waiting for the team bus on Wednesday night and wondering where the feck everyone else is?

CarbonStoolBites · Sep 4, 2022

slored1 said:
Dubravka
AWB - Maguire - Lindelof - Shaw
Fred - Casemiro
Antony - Van de Beek/Bruno - Elanga
Ronaldo

3-1 United.

We’re not beating Real Socieded let alone 3-1 away from home with that team and that disaster of a back four.
That’s basically throwing away the game.

Devil81 · Sep 4, 2022

I want to win this game to keep the momentum going but we need to rotate where we can.

Maguire and Lindelof will no doubt end in disaster but we need to give Varane and Martinez a rest.

SinNombre · Sep 4, 2022

CarbonStoolBites said:
We’re not beating Real Socieded let alone 3-1 away from home with that team and that disaster of a back four.
That’s basically throwing away the game.

That disaster of a back 4 finished 3rd and 2nd in the league, and comfortably reached and dominated the Europa cup finals.

Do you guys have so much of a recency bias?

Casemiro-Fred is Brazil's starting midfield pairing.

Agree with @Damien 's lineup.

diarm · Sep 4, 2022

Sociedad away is the group game we can afford to drop points in and it's important with this run than we give guys like Varane, Martinez and Eriksen a rest.

I think last years defence with Casemiro, Fred, Donny and Ronaldo all starting should be enough for at least a point over there.

CarbonStoolBites · Sep 4, 2022

SinNombre said:
That disaster of a back 4 finished 3rd and 2nd in the league, and comfortably reached and dominated the Europa cup finals.

Do you guys have so much of a recency bias?

Casemiro-Fred is Brazil's starting midfield pairing.

Agree with @Damien 's lineup.

I have no problems with Fred-Casemiro, I never want to see this back 4 start another game of football for this club together ever again.
They’ve barely played any football for weeks, but sure, throw them in together away to a Spanish side.

Last season isn’t a “recency bias” they were absolute dogpiss for an entire season.
Individually they all have something to offer, but all of them together? 4 of them? Never again.

The White Pele · Sep 4, 2022

Rests for Rashford and Eriksen please.

I hope we go reasonably strong as it would be good to put this group to bed after 4 games following the home and away against Omonia.

I’m also hoping to see us be on the ball a bit more.

———————DDG
Dalot—Maguire—Martinez—Shaw
——————Casemiro
———-Bruno————Fred
Antony—————————Elanga
——————Ronaldo

A shame for the likes of VDB not to get minutes but there will be plenty of opportunities in the other 5 group games. Let’s get off to a good start first.

The White Pele · Sep 4, 2022

CarbonStoolBites said:
I have no problems with Fred-Casemiro, I never want to see this back 4 start another game of football for this club together ever again.
They’ve barely played any football for weeks, but sure, throw them in together away to a Spanish side.

Last season isn’t a “recency bias” they were absolute dogpiss for an entire season.
Individually they all have something to offer, but all of them together? 4 of them? Never again.

We’re at home.

CarbonStoolBites · Sep 4, 2022

The White Pele said:
We’re at home.

Well crap, my bad.
Taking off the day here brudda.

DutchCruijff · Sep 4, 2022

De Gea

AWB/Lindelof/Maguire/Shaw

Casemiro/Fred

Fernandes

Antony/Ronaldo/Garnacho

Dalot has been run ragged, can't risk him. Can't risk injuries to Varane or Martinez either.

De Gea needs to start playing it out from the back, Casemiro needs to be settled in, Fred deserves to start, Fernandes is a resilient player so can start - sub him for VDB if all is going well - Antony needs to settle in, Ronaldo the same and Garnacho really needs a run out.

I don't want Sancho or Rashford starting. Martial won't be back.

There's more than enough quality in that side to win.

The Urban Goose · Sep 4, 2022

Ayoba said:
Rest everyone!

Litch · Sep 4, 2022

Damien said:
Full changes

Dubravka

AWB Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Casemiro Fred
Elanga van de Beek Martial*
Ronaldo

*if fit

Llike that….

P-Nut · Sep 4, 2022

Dubravka
Dalot Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Casemiro Fred
Antony Bruno Elanga
Ronaldo

Unfortunately Bruno will likely have to play again as DvB must be injured with 2 keepers on the bench today, same goes for Dalot as there was no sign of AWB either.

DJ_21 · Sep 4, 2022

The good thing is about having 2 quality number 10s now is we can afford to rest one of them. Could play either Bruno or eriksen as the 10 against these with Casemiro and Fred in the middle. Think we need to rotate but not to much. Keep the players momentum going… also need to keep them fresh though. Think we have enough to beat these and palace at the weekend with a little rotation.

McGrathsipan · Sep 4, 2022

Win the home games!

RedPed · Sep 4, 2022

And we still have Martial to come back.

Of course he won't be ready for some time but looking forward to seeing what he can do in this team after the start to the season he has had. Sociedad won't be no mugs and we'll no doubt have a very different team to today.

SER19 · Sep 4, 2022

Very useful tournament in a season where top 4 will be tough. Wholesale changes

Bastian · Sep 4, 2022

This will be interesting. We will simply have to rest quite a few players so it's a complete unknown whether a radically different XI can display the same team spirit and work ethic. I was nervous today even at 3-1 when Maguire was on and we had no pacey outlet up front. The balance of Varane and Martinez is outstanding.

I would hope Varane is wrapped up in cotton wool as well as Eriksen, at the very least.

-----------------------Dubravka
AWB--------Lindelof-----Maguire-------Shaw
-------------Casemiro-------Fred
Antony---------------Donny--------------Sancho/Elanga/Garnacho
--------------------------Ronnie

Would expect Antony to keep getting minutes, would also love to see Garnacho getting decent playing time. Hopefully Iqbal from the bench. The back four will hopefully up their level given what they've seen from the sidelines.

abailey123 · Sep 4, 2022

I’d make 11 changes:

Dubravka

AWB
Lindelof
Magure
Shaw

Casemiro
Fred

Donny

Elanga
Ronaldo
Garnacho

The side above is arguably better than anything we fielded last season ridiculous what one or 2 quality additions can do.

Todd · Sep 4, 2022

The league is the priority right now. Rest everyone.

De Gea

Shaw
Lindelof
Maguire
AWB

Fred
Casemiro

Elanga
VDB
Garnacho

Ronaldo

MyOnlySolskjaer · Sep 4, 2022

Hopefully Shaw and Wan-Bissaka are back for this.

Eplel · Sep 4, 2022

I don't care too much about Europa League.

CM · Sep 4, 2022

We've got a decent squad so we should be using it. Maybe keep a couple of first teamers in but I'd like to see us rotate the side a bit - Palace away will be a tough match next weekend and there have already been a lot of games in quick succession early in the season.

Perhaps a good opportunity to give Garnacho a cameo appearance too. He's shown he has the talent, Europa games are a slightly less pressurised environment to introduce a young player like that.

Baneofthegame · Sep 4, 2022

Trequarista10 said:
Ronaldo
Garnacho - Iqbal - Elanga
Fred - Casemiro
Shaw - Maguire - Lindelof - AWB
Dubravka

Assuming VDB is injured, otherwise he probably starts in place of Iqbal.

Pack the bench with kids and Antony who needs some minutes, give the rest of the team some much deserved time off.

Agree with this team.

Someone · Sep 4, 2022

Really hope we could utilize the squad a bit here. I know we have momentum but we need to rotate.

VanDeBank · Sep 4, 2022

Martial
Garnacho Donny Antony
Casemiro Fred
Shaw Magalof AWB
Dubravka

My preferred line up.

dbs235 · Sep 4, 2022

wangyu said:
You guys realize we play sociedad right? Is the overall arrogance after 4 wins on the trot already setting in?

I don't think people are writing Sociedad off, it's more they don't care about the Europa league, or are happy to drop points in this game at least.

Alemar · Sep 4, 2022

Dubravka

Bissaka
Lindeof
Maguire
Shaw

Casemiro
Fred
DVB

Antony
Ronaldo
Garnacho

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