Manchester United 0:0 West Ham United

ivaldo · Dec 2, 2015

We will score at least 3.

CG1010 · Dec 2, 2015

ivaldo said:
We will score at least 3.

Let's talk about one game at a time, too early to discuss what we'd do during December.

kopviolator · Dec 2, 2015

I'm already irked by our lack of creation in this game. And sub Rooney will ya.

ivaldo · Dec 2, 2015

CG1010 said:
Let's talk about one game at a time, too early to discuss what we'd do during December.

Adcuth · Dec 2, 2015

Just gimme this please

unchanged_lineup · Dec 2, 2015

www.ispayetbackyet.com

Escobar · Dec 2, 2015

I'd play Memphis upfront with Mata, Herrera and Martial behind

Adisa · Dec 2, 2015

Escobar said:
I'd play Memphis upfront with Mata, Herrera and Martial behind

Same. But Herrera is unlikely to make it.

If Rooney isn't dropped for this, he will never be dropped under this manager.

Annihilate Now! · Dec 2, 2015

Januzaj11 said:
Whole thread is embarrassing.

Good win to go back top.

It's embarrassing to think that United might not win a game - or that it might not be a very entertaining game?

Your embarrassement threshold is astonishingly low.

Adcuth · Dec 2, 2015

Can pereira play CM with a holding mid or is he more of an attacking mid?

Maradona10 · Dec 2, 2015

CG1010 said:
I fully accept that. Despite that I do not want LVG to be sacked but that's a personal choice I agree. What boggles mind is how anyone could want us to lose given that this is such an important game for us just so that they see LVG sacked!

I just asked a question, most said they would rather win a game. I think you are making too much out of nothing.

NinjaFletch · Dec 2, 2015

Maradona10 said:
If it means LVG is is sacked, would you want us to lose?

Hmm do I want us to lose games until a manager is sacked or win games when we're in the title race?

Hard one that....

Reckon I'll take the title race.

DWelbz19 · Dec 2, 2015

Adcuth said:
Can pereira play CM with a holding mid or is he more of an attacking mid?

His best position has always probably been a #8 with licence to roam around. A lot like Herrera, he's deceptively tenacious in his defending. But, again, like Herrera - free roaming players who seek to move with the ball and instigate tempo will find it difficult to find a position in this rigid side.

Adcuth · Dec 2, 2015

DWelbz19 said:
His best position has always probably been a #8 with licence to roam around. A lot like Herrera, he's deceptively tenacious in his defending. But, again, like Herrera - free roaming players who seek to move with the ball and instigate tempo will find it difficult to find a position in this rigid side.

So putting him next to BFS but giving him the freedom to roam around the middle would work were we not asked to play so horribly?

sunama · Dec 2, 2015

Gerald G said:
Honestly, one week to rest up and prepare so there is no excuse to not win this game. I'm hoping to see a good performance and hoping we score more than 2 goals in this.

sunama · Dec 2, 2015

Adisa said:
Same. But Herrera is unlikely to make it.
If Rooney isn't dropped for this, he will never be dropped under this manager.

I think that is has long been established that Rooney is undroppable.

Gerald G · Dec 2, 2015

sunama said:

It's going to happen at some point!

Di Maria's angel · Dec 2, 2015

Gerald G said:
It's going to happen at some point!

Wishful thinking. 2 shots on target is more likely.

Cassidy · Dec 2, 2015

Gerald G said:
It's going to happen at some point!

Haha tbf its happened 4 times in the league already

Gerald G · Dec 2, 2015

Cassidy said:
Haha tbf its happened 4 times in the league already

Yep and it's due to happen again.

FCBarca · Dec 2, 2015

Martial to score!

sunama · Dec 2, 2015

Cassidy said:
Haha tbf its happened 4 times in the league already

You are right.
But in those games, Martial was new and attempting to score goals.
These days, for whatever reason, he isn't scoring.

When we buy attacking players, in the first few weeks they actually do very well or at least look threatening.
As the weeks roll by, they are fully indoctrinated into the back/side passing system and then they can't score or even shoot.

Perhaps our players are told that they must make 40 passes before shooting - not sure.
I think Guardiola also has a similar rule in his teams. Something about making 10 passes (minimum) before attempting. I vaguely remember reading something like that.

Winrar · Dec 2, 2015

Gerald G said:
Yep and it's due to happen again.

against a side that'll probably look to park the bus and counter? doubt it.

Michael T · Dec 2, 2015

4 - 0 win for us. Just do it!

Red-Jeff · Dec 3, 2015

ashgabat said:
I'll be going to this game. Hoping for some goals this time! Last two visits have been 0-0 draws.. Chelsea at home in 13/14, Rangers at home in 10/11.

fecking LVG

NJM78 · Dec 3, 2015

So we have a hugely impressive 10 goals in the last 11 games but thankfully we are conceding very few especially at home. All points to a snore fest one nil win or lame 1-1, 0-0 draws.

Anything but a win here for me is not acceptable.

Will Rooney start yes, will he play shite, yes. Will we have 70% possession by full time, of course. Will the chorus of attack attack attack ring out around OT, I think it will. Will the Caf go into meltdown if we don't win, you bet it will. Unrelated - will Vardy score again, yes.

Team I would play if fit;

De Gea, Darmian, Smalling, Jones, Blind, Schneiderlin, BFS, Herrera, Lingard, Memphis, Martial.

Just go with pace in attack and hope Lingard especially can improve his finishing. Have Herrera sat in front of the schmidfield pulling the strings.

I really doubt LvG will go with my team though.

Gasolin · Dec 3, 2015

sunama said:
You are right.
But in those games, Martial was new and attempting to score goals.
These days, for whatever reason, he isn't scoring.

When we buy attacking players, in the first few weeks they actually do very well or at least look threatening.
As the weeks roll by, they are fully indoctrinated into the back/side passing system and then they can't score or even shoot.

Perhaps our players are told that they must make 40 passes before shooting - not sure.
I think Guardiola also has a similar rule in his teams. Something about making 10 passes (minimum) before attempting. I vaguely remember reading something like that.

There is no such rule. The only thing he says is that a team can only attack with a minimum of 15 passes from defence to attack. And for Pep, you can't have fewer passes than 15 to accomplish that.

Hammerfell · Dec 3, 2015

Annihilate Now! said:
It's embarrassing to think that United might not win a game - or that it might not be a very entertaining game?

Your embarrassement threshold is astonishingly low.

Embarrassing and its variants are this season's in words on here.

Sunny Jim · Dec 3, 2015

Where can i watch it in Sydney??

RustyS · Dec 3, 2015

Maradona10 said:
If it means LVG is is sacked, would you want us to lose?

No but if it means some of our whiny and spoiled fans whose incessant and repetitive self-entitled moaning is more boring than any football we could ever play would feck off and go watch whoever the flavour of the month is, then yes, I hope we lose.

drdoityourself · Dec 3, 2015

This is how I hope we'll line up:

---------------De Gea---------------
Darmian-Smalling-Blind-Young----
--Schweinsteiger-Schneiderlin-----
-------------Lingard- Mata----------
-----------Martial-Memphis---------

What i think is we'll probably see Rooney, Carrick and Rojo for Memphis, Schneiderlin and Mata

This is assuming Herrera will miss the game. I'd also be tempted to drop Darmian for McNair.

Gerald G · Dec 3, 2015

I expect the West Ham team to be:

Adrian
Jenkinson-Reid-Ogbonna-Cresswell
Noble-Kouyate-Obiang
Lanzini-Jelavic-Moses

We should be able to beat them. They will sit deep and play on the counter as expected. If we get an early goal I think we'll win it easily.

ferguson2 · Dec 3, 2015

This game will be the turning point. With Rooney "injured" (van Gaal will tell in his presser), Depay and Martial will lead the attack and forming a new duo for years and bring back the Premier League trophy where it belongs.

4-0 (Lingard, 2x Martial, Memphis)

R'hllor · Dec 3, 2015

Well they won in their away games vs City,Liverpool,Arsenal, maybe i missed someone,so i believe we gonna win this one.

Question234 · Dec 3, 2015

ferguson2 said:
This game will be the turning point. With Rooney "injured" (van Gaal will tell in his presser), Depay and Martial will lead the attack and forming a new duo for years and bring back the Premier League trophy where it belongs.

4-0 (Lingard, 2x Martial, Memphis)

I'm honestly praying but I believe this will happen. Rooney getting dropped and Herrera being fit is key.

sunama · Dec 3, 2015

ferguson2 said:
This game will be the turning point. With Rooney "injured"

I think realistically, the only way to bench Rooney (or to exclude him from the team), would be to say that he is "injured".
Hodgson did this in our England qualifiers. Rooney was fine to play for MUFC, but for due to his "injury", he could not play for England after/before he played games for MUFC.

BUT, I just can't see LVG dropping him. He is the best captain he has ever worked with and plays him without fail. I can't see this changing anytime soon.

Bwuk · Dec 3, 2015

I'd like to see this;

Dave
Darmian - Smalling - Blind - Rojo
Schweinsteiger
Herrera - Morgan
Mata
Martial - Memphis

Nickosaur · Dec 3, 2015

Bwuk said:
I'd like to see this;

Dave
Darmian - Smalling - Blind - Rojo
Schweinsteiger
Herrera - Morgan
Mata
Martial - Memphis

I really like the look of that line-up, but Darmian just inspires no confidence when going forward. In a home game we should be winning, I'd play Young at RB.

RedDevil@84 · Dec 4, 2015

--------- De Gea -------------
Darmian--Mike--Blind---Young
Herrera---Bastian----Schnedierlin
Mata----- Martial--------Memphis

Gerald G · Dec 4, 2015

Well with the injury news we don't have much choice.

De Gea
Darmian-Smalling-Blind-Young
Carrick-Schweinsteiger
Lingard-Mata-Memphis
Martial

subs: Romero, McNair, CBJ, Schneiderlin, Fellaini, Pereira, Rashford/Powell?

Or

De Gea
Darmian-McNair-Smalling-Blind
Schneiderlin-Schweinsteiger
Mata - Young
Martial-Memphis

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