The final 8-10 minutes was a perfect blueprint of what to do. Commit a limited number of men forward to exploit the inevitable space, whilst retaining your defensive structure. Don’t got route one, but maintain a balance between direct passing and retaining the ball. Passing and movement should be low risk, and does not need to be anything more.
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13 goals in 18 matches. They're shite. They weren't ever going to score, they weren't getting any chances.We didn´t play well in the first half, but at least we still had a bit of a passing game going. A little bit of pressure and that disappears completely. The moment we get the ball it´s a long ball forward and the opponent gets another go at us. It´s always the same.
I doubt there is a top team that´s worse than us in terms of keeping the ball and build up play. Thank god that our offensive players are more clinical this season and individual brilliance wins us games, because good football as a team certainly isn´t.
Really comparing us against a team that is below us in the table and who ahven't won a league title in god knows how many decades, you should be on the ignore from the forum. Instead you should have asked how did City do against them.
F*ck City.
Are you being deliberately obtuse?
It was the dominant tactic 2005-2012ish but since then football has gradually been moving on. The “occasional” reference is to future trophies.
A great post. They are lunatics without a brain. We always get good or brilliant opportunities to attack but someone would do something idiotic and then the whole attempt collapses. Lukaku seems to be the leader of this. But surely any player at a club like United should be able to see those passes or movements.
I know, but they are 11 points clear of the pack and playing good football, can't ignore that.Thought we were in control until Valecia went off. Rojo seems to have gone back to being the old Rojo.
if you like City so much go and watch them , sick of hearing about them !!
They are, but we are not the only team to blame for that. It's as though it is all our fault. What about the other big teams who have bent over for them. They beat us with two defensive errors.
You said "football has moved on since 2005. Jose hasn't". That's a quote. Would you like me to list the trophies Mourinho has won since 2005? Attempting to move the goalposts now doesn't wash.
I get your point, it's just that a lot of the time I don't actually enjoy the football United play these days.
Sure it's great to get 3 points, but I watch football to be entertained too. Not to waste time against the likes of West Brom in a game we should be winning comfortably anyway.
Giving credit where its due doesn't mean you root for that team.
We are fine when Pogba is there. We are down, yet again to bare bones in midfield. Him coming back should change our attacking options.
That is what i have been saying that led to this post. We have been not good enough, and performances like tonight will not do if we want to win the league.
Yes, because 2005(ish) is when the tactic was new, “modern” and at its most effective - the start of the era. It clearly doesn’t mean that was the only year it was effective.
We made two defensive errors, but we have the best defence.
It’s so trendy these days to blame the manager for what the players should be responsible of. Retaining the ball should be a basic thing for any PL team but we have too many morons in the squad.
Smalling(for instance) treats the ball like a bubonic plague even when he’s not under any sort of pressure. It’s so frustrating. The last 10 minutes should be giving us more scoring opportunities to build up a considerable +GD.
Going forward?
Yes, we are a different team when Pogba is playing that's for sure, it's just a tad worrying how overly reliant on him we are to play a decent brand of football.
Only City have scored more goals. The way people are going on you would think we are in the relegation zone.Why don't we cross more? Why? Why? Why? Every time a ball goes in the air, the opposition feels it. Yet we persist with stuff that doesn't really work.
That's good, because it proved very effective in 2015 when Mourinho won the league. Not to mention all of the trophies preceding 2015.
You could just concede that you made an off the cuff remark that was daft, in retrospect.Anyway, back to the Lukaku goal celebration
We need another wide forward or ss to me. It is either Rashford or Martial as both want to play in the same position. Then you end up getting nothing from the other side of the field. Lingard get the odd goal, works his socks off, but is not always intelligent and Lukaku, like a lot of strikers, relies on service. He will not create something out of nothing.
2nd to City is not acceptable. Frankly without Pogba we are shite going forward, and relying too much on 1 player is never a good tactic.
Ps City have scored 17 goals more than United, and have conceded the same number of goals.
No, because it is clearly now dated. There may be the odd one-off like 2015, but Chelsea had no real comptetition in 2015.
If you’re happy with how Utd are playing, fine, each to their own.Question:
When is the last time Manchester United Football Club won three Premier League away matches on the bounce ?
ps. Haven't a clue as to the answer.
This isn't Leicester City we are talking about.
Why are you bringing Leicester city to this? Aim for the top not the team that are 5 places and 13 points behind us.
We have a lot of problems due to previous managers. We were sixth last season, so I just want to see progress and then more signings in the right areas, not where Ed Woodward wants them.
I get ya. Though every game isn't going to be free-flowing, explosive football. You're going to have to grind out results every so often, especially during the busy winter period.
It's not just about this game though, people complain about sitting back in every single game pretty much.
Finding the right balance isn't easy though. To a manager like Mourinho, risk will always be lower when sitting back.
There is a huge difference between hurting and sulking and last week was a massive result, for both clubs and if you don't get that fella, then you don't get football.
Every player that wears our shirt has to be committed, thats the only thing as supporters we have the right to demand; but you don't get a result like last week out of your system easy, which is why I haven't hammered the lads for their last two performances.
And we didn't always react under the gaffer fella, but rose tinted memories will have some thinking otherwise.
I wasn't there today; but I was up in the week and it was a killer and was always going to be. I always give my all, because I demand it from the players, but last weekend will take some getting over and it wont happen over night.
We need to dish out two or three good hidings and start playing with a bit more freedom. It's first or failure, so we may as well start going for teams, because we are nailed on top 4, so we've got nothing to lose.
It's about the cups and producing some decent football now.
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Man of the Match
Runners-up
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13%
Romelu Lukaku
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12%
Jesse Lingard
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10%
Chris Smalling
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8%
Phil Jones
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7%
Juan Mata
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2%
David de Gea
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2%
Marcus Rashford
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1%
Ashley Young
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1%
Scott McTominay
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Ander Herrera
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1%
Antonio Valencia
Player Ratings
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Score Predictions
417,27,53
- Man Utd win
- West Brom win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 32% West Brom 0:2 Man Utd
- 17% West Brom 0:1 Man Utd
- 13% West Brom 1:2 Man Utd
- 10% West Brom 0:3 Man Utd
- 7% West Brom 1:1 Man Utd
- 6% West Brom 1:3 Man Utd
- 3% West Brom 0:4 Man Utd
- 3% West Brom 0:0 Man Utd
- 2% West Brom 1:0 Man Utd
- 2% West Brom 0:5 Man Utd
- 1% West Brom 2:0 Man Utd
- 1% West Brom 1:4 Man Utd
- 1% West Brom 5:0 Man Utd
- 1% West Brom 2:2 Man Utd
- 1% West Brom 3:1 Man Utd
- 0% West Brom 2:4 Man Utd
- 0% West Brom 2:1 Man Utd
- 0% West Brom 2:3 Man Utd
- 0% West Brom 4:4 Man Utd
- 0% West Brom 4:5 Man Utd
Match Stats
- West Brom
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 43% 57%
- Shots
- 12 8
- Shots on Target
- 5 3
- Corners
- 6 3
- Fouls
- 14 7
Referee
Anthony Taylor
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