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The yellow/ red card stats mean jack shit. It just goes to show that he gets away with murder, and is shown more leniency and given the benefit of the doubt by refs in comparisons with Gonzalo Forinner.
 

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Why was Niasses ban a farce ? it was a clear dive
Because he was clearly body checked by the Palace defender that turned into him. Certainly a soft penalty, but clearly not a dive.
 
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Niasse goes down fecking platoon style...
Of course he does, his path is impeded by the player turning into him and he's trying to milk it instead of soldiering on and getting disadvantaged by trying to play on. If refs were competent enough to spot fouls when players didn't act like they were shot we wouldn't see this type of 'foul highlighting', but sadly they're not that good at their jobs, and as a result we do see this type of acting by the players. Now, in my opinion, they're further turning the other cheek to the referees' incompetence and are basically saying that "we don't care that much if you dived as long as you didn't make the ref look like a silly boy, but if you did embarrass the referee, then it's two game ban for you"

Like I've been saying, there's a grey area between a dive and a penalty where this fits in (ie not a pen, not a dive - or even, a yellow for the simulation and a pen for the foul), and this diving panel nonsense is clearly just another layer of arbitrary decision-making where British players aren't going to be banned for the same things that foreigners are. And it's not just foreigners v British players, it's the type of arbitrary shit that sees Mourinho being sent to the stands for kicking a bottle but Klopp being allowed to throw one, where Jesus is allowed to perform the worst dive of the season without a booking, whereas Herrera's booked for diving in the same game where there's actual contact (albeit instigated by him), and where Pogba's sent off for stepping on a player that's pretty much just put his leg underneath his running path whereas Kane and Alli are let off with ankle-breaking tackles without any retrospective action.
 
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Of course he does, his path is impeded by the player turning into him and he's trying to milk it instead of soldiering on and getting disadvantaged by trying to play on.

Like I've been saying, there's a grey area between a dive and a penalty where this fits in (ie not a pen, not a dive - or even, a yellow for the simulation and a pen for the foul), and this diving panel nonsense is clearly just another layer of arbitrary decision-making where British players aren't going to be banned for the same things that foreigners are.
He tries, and succeeds, in taking a tumble to get a penalty from whats not much of a foul. He clearly fakes the extent of the contact.

There will always be cases where a player goes over from not much contact, without it being either a dive or a foul, Niasse isn't one of them.

They were right to ban Lanzini as well, and Alli should be banned as well.
 

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Prem League 2017-18 so far:

Pogba: 1 red card. Herrera - 4 yellow cards, Young: 4 yellows, Rojo: 4 yellows.
Alli: 0 red cards, 3 yellow cards.

Prem League 2016-17:
Fellaini: 1 red + 9 yellow cards, Herrera: 1 red + 5 yellow cards, Pogba: 7 yellow cards, Rojo: 5 yellows, Valencia 5 yellows.
Alli: 0 red cards, 4 yellow cards

Some opposition fans don't like him because he's aggressive and gets in the faces of opposition players. But a dirty player ? Nah.

He's a combative, highly competitive player, which is all part of what makes him good. And he gets fouled far more than he gives out.

A good illustration that some players cop it every time they step out of line and some get away with murder
 

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Prem League 2017-18 so far:

Pogba: 1 red card. Herrera - 4 yellow cards, Young: 4 yellows, Rojo: 4 yellows.
Alli: 0 red cards, 3 yellow cards.

Prem League 2016-17:
Fellaini: 1 red + 9 yellow cards, Herrera: 1 red + 5 yellow cards, Pogba: 7 yellow cards, Rojo: 5 yellows, Valencia 5 yellows.
Alli: 0 red cards, 4 yellow cards

Some opposition fans don't like him because he's aggressive and gets in the faces of opposition players. But a dirty player ? Nah.

He's a combative, highly competitive player, which is all part of what makes him good. And he gets fouled far more than he gives out.
And Costa was sent off how many times for Chelsea ? Or David Luiz for that matter.
 

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He tries, and succeeds, in taking a tumble to get a penalty from whats not much of a foul. He clearly fakes the extent of the contact.

There will always be cases where a player goes over from not much contact, without it being either a dive or a foul, Niasse isn't one of them.

They were right to ban Lanzini as well, and Alli should be banned as well.
If every situation where a player could stay up, but chooses to go down, are to be called as dives and punished with two game bans, teams won't be able to field a starting XI for the third game of the season.

I fully accept that players are going to choose to go down when they have their path impeded by a tackle, instead of putting themselves off balance, because the referees in the Premier League are so poor that they can't spot a foul unless a player goes down. Why should a player put himself at a disadvantage by trying to play on if he's impeded? I mean, what the actual feck is Dann doing there? Ball goes past him and he still rotates his body and leans into Niasse. What's he trying to accomplish? If he's trying to get out of the way then he's clearly going about it the wrong way. I don't think the onus is on Niasse to put himself off balance in an awkward position to get out of the way of a poor tackle, and as such I think his ban was ridiculous.
 

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Prem League 2017-18 so far:

Pogba: 1 red card. Herrera - 4 yellow cards, Young: 4 yellows, Rojo: 4 yellows.
Alli: 0 red cards, 3 yellow cards.

Prem League 2016-17:
Fellaini: 1 red + 9 yellow cards, Herrera: 1 red + 5 yellow cards, Pogba: 7 yellow cards, Rojo: 5 yellows, Valencia 5 yellows.
Alli: 0 red cards, 4 yellow cards

Some opposition fans don't like him because he's aggressive and gets in the faces of opposition players. But a dirty player ? Nah.

He's a combative, highly competitive player, which is all part of what makes him good. And he gets fouled far more than he gives out.
Christ, you took the time to research all that on Xmas day?

Alli is a snide little bastard, regardless of how many times he's gotten away with it. Proper wannabe hardman.
 

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If every situation where a player could stay up, but chooses to go down, are to be called as dives and punished with two game bans, teams won't be able to field a starting XI for the third game of the season.

I fully accept that players are going to choose to go down when they have their path impeded by a tackle, instead of putting themselves off balance, because the referees in the Premier League are so poor that they can't spot a foul unless a player goes down. Why should a player put himself at a disadvantage by trying to play on if he's impeded? I mean, what the actual feck is Dann doing there? Ball goes past him and he still rotates his body and leans into Niasse. What's he trying to accomplish? If he's trying to get out of the way then he's clearly going about it the wrong way. I don't think the onus is on Niasse to put himself off balance in an awkward position to get out of the way of a poor tackle, and as such I think his ban was ridiculous.
Maybe if the daft cnut didn't suddenly lose control over both his legs as if he's been completely wiped out, there wouldn't have been much of a fuzz about it.

There's a middle ground here, and it's not pretending you've taken a 50 cal to the chest because there's someone coming in...Lanzini, Niasse and Alli can all get fecked
 

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It seems Glaston has shaved a million off his transfer fee too because I’ve never once seen a figure of £4 million reported. £5 million is the universal figure.
He’ll be rounding it down to a free transfer soon because a few million pounds isn’t considered much with the big transfer going on the past few years.
 

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Wow, the prats on Soccer Saturday are saying that a) that challenge vs Burnley is being made to look worse than it is AND b) he hasn’t dived, he has anticipated the contact... talk about fecking English bias bullshit.
 

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Prem League 2017-18 so far:

Pogba: 1 red card. Herrera - 4 yellow cards, Young: 4 yellows, Rojo: 4 yellows.
Alli: 0 red cards, 3 yellow cards.

Prem League 2016-17:
Fellaini: 1 red + 9 yellow cards, Herrera: 1 red + 5 yellow cards, Pogba: 7 yellow cards, Rojo: 5 yellows, Valencia 5 yellows.
Alli: 0 red cards, 4 yellow cards

Some opposition fans don't like him because he's aggressive and gets in the faces of opposition players. But a dirty player ? Nah.

He's a combative, highly competitive player, which is all part of what makes him good. And he gets fouled far more than he gives out.
Diego Costa was sent off once for Chelsea. Was he not a dirty player?
 

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He's such a cartoon villain the little thug:lol:
 

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Someday someone's going to wipe Dele the f-k out and he'll deserve it.
 

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I wouldnt mind as much if he was proper thug but he is little snide scrotum, proper bitch acting tough. bet if you slap a cnut twice, he would start staring into the ground.
 

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I'd back myself to get him sent off within 20 mins. Worst kind of dirty player, soft as hell with a spoilt teenager exterior.
 

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Hopefully. Although the days of the proper midfield enforcers are sadly gone. A Keane or Viera would have levelled him :drool:
You wouldn't have even needed Keano. Fletch would have flattened him!