I saw something completely different. Very calm under pressure, slotted superbly into their team, always tried to play forward when that was an option. Basically a player who would fix most of our current problems. He’ll be great for City.
The Community Shield 2019 - Liverpool v Manchester City
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That's the beauty of football analysis I guess. Hopefully he fails there.
Haha. Yeah, I’d hope so too, but think they’ve got a problem position well covered.
One needs to listen less to Donald Trump.
The anthem mixes an arse lick of an unelected head of state, with colonial triumphalism and even a nod to crushing rebellious Scots (and people question why some Scots want independence). When you add into the mix the fact that the Tories, the party of the aristocrats and the establishment, preferred the option of "managed decline" of the city of Liverpool in the 1980s rather than invest to help the city through a difficult period its hardly surprising that Liverpool as a city feels no connection to the true blue wankmaggots who run the country. Just for good measure the new PM was recently given an opportunity in the House of Commons to apologise for comments made in the Spectator while he was editor, blaming Hillsborough on fans and he couldn't bring himself to do it. To quote his predecessor "nothing has changed".
All that is before you even consider that it is a perfectly legitimate position and aspiration to want a republic. Lavishing millions of pounds on one family, because of their ancestry, in the 21st century is fecking insane and shows how most of the public are brainwashed by charlatans and shysters.
And equating booing of the anthem with Heysel? Have a word with yourself ffs.
The words God and Queen alone are valid reasons not to sing it. Wouldn't boo either as booing is always a bit childish but understand why people do it.
You're making it worse with these comments - no way can you justify booing your National anthem.
You're making it worse with these comments - no way can you justify booing your National anthem.
Yes, you can. Several people already have. But apparently there is no way you can understand any kind of rational argument. Just as I'm sure you won't be able to comprehend that the "national" anthem, like the flag, has been co-opted by people and organizations I despise. It's the Brexit Anthem, the Tory Anthem, the Racist Anthem. Also, it's a really shit tune with offensive lyrics.
Fortunately, however, I don't need to justify my choice to boo your "national" anthem. It's a free country--at the moment--and I have every right to express myself.
of course you can. It's no different to booing any other song. If you do not agree with the person singing, the message or lyrics etc then you are perfectly entitled to express your displeasure. The fans were attending a football match between two club sides, not sure why the national anthem has any right to be played beforehand anyway.As much as I hate discussing politics on Redcafe, I'd like to hear your explanation for the bolded parts.
Absolutely. Playing the national anthem between two clubs from the same country needs to stop, utterly useless.
...........and i have every right to express myself too.
Then why don't you express yourself rather than just a couple of one-liners saying 'it's wrong to boo your national anthem'. Perhaps you could elucidate as to why it's wrong rather than just tell us it's wrong.
The booing of the national anthem was pathetic. Stay silent if you don't like it.
"Scouse not English"
They actually made themselves look more English than they'd ever wish to be with that little performance yesterday.
It was notable that a lot of the press stayed very quiet on it, once again protecting their media darling club. Just wait until mid September when the daft booing of the Champions League anthem continues at City. Guarantee the knives will be out then.
Henry Winter's tweet made me laugh. One of these things is not like the other.....
"Liverpool fans boo Raheem Sterling. City fans boo YAWN. Liverpool fans boo Blue Moon. Liverpool fans boo national anthem.
Separate football from politics and everything else. You're making something that is supposed to be fun into something too serious.
"Scouse not English"
They actually made themselves look more English than they'd ever wish to be with that little performance yesterday.
It was notable that a lot of the press stayed very quiet on it, once again protecting their media darling club. Just wait until mid September when the daft booing of the Champions League anthem continues at City. Guarantee the knives will be out then.
Henry Winter's tweet made me laugh. One of these things is not like the other.....
"Liverpool fans boo Raheem Sterling. City fans boo YAWN. Liverpool fans boo Blue Moon. Liverpool fans boo national anthem.
Separate football from politics and everything else. You're making something that is supposed to be fun into something too serious.
If you can't understand what's wrong then it's useless elucidating anything to you.
I put her on ignore a few months ago. She's not interested in having a sensible conversation with Liverpool fans so I found it easiest to just ignore her posts.
It's the words to the song that I object to. The Queen is an unelected head of state of a so-called democratic country. Basically, at some point in the future we could have a homicidal lunatic as king/queen simply because of the succession principle that underpins the very foundation of the British monarchy. Tell me, what's so democratic about that ? MP's, armed forces etc have to swear an allegiance to the queen. This means she comes before every single person in the country. Why is that right ? If London comes under attack from terrorists, Russians etc, the police, ambulance service, fire brigade, et al are all bound by the oath to drive pass a burning orphanage on their way to Buckingham Palace & save a couple of geriatric free-loaders who are well past their sell by date.
Your MP has been elected to represent you, yet when they take their seat in parliament they will pledge their allegiance to the Queen. In this democratic age that’s just wrong.
The UK Parliament is the democratically elected body that represents the interests of the United Kingdom and its people, makes laws for the UK, and holds the UK Government to account.
Despite being elected by you to represent the people, when sworn into parliament MPs don't swear allegiance to the UK or to its people, but instead to our unelected monarch, her heirs and successors.
When elected our representatives are required to take the following oath or affirmation:
The oath states: "I (name of Member) swear by Almighty God that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God."
The affirmation states: "I (name of Member) do solemnly, sincerely, and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors, according to law."
If your MP refuses to take the oath or the affirmation they will be unable to take part in parliamentary proceedings and will not be paid any salary and allowances until they’ve done so.
It's one of the great ironies of our political system that our democratically elected representatives are forced to swear allegiance to an unelected monarch.
The oath is an insult to our democratic values, and to you and all voters who participate. It has to change.
This petition calls upon the UK Parliament to establish a new oath of allegiance, one that pledges allegiance to the people, not to the Queen.
Yeah I know. I just like exposing her ignorance on certain matters. She's struggling to get past one line on this one.
Its because of Liverpools proud socialist traditions.
I know the club was founded by Torys, owned by Torys backers up till the two cowboys, had a vile Tory as chairman( John Smith), had Thatcher mouthpieces in their team like Graham Souness,Emyln Hughes etc but apart from that.....
Plus the city has a proud socialist tradition since they all lost their well paid jobs in the early 70s.
I know the club was founded by Torys, owned by Torys backers up till the two cowboys, had a vile Tory as chairman( John Smith), had Thatcher mouthpieces in their team like Graham Souness,Emyln Hughes etc but apart from that.....
Plus the city has a proud socialist tradition since they all lost their well paid jobs in the early 70s.
For someone so keen to talk about their right to express themselves, you appear unable to do so.
All I said is that it's not right to boo your own National Anthem.
Now is that so hard to understand?
I have a right to my opinion in an educated manner and not calling anyone ignorant, and others have the right not to agree with me but I stick to my opinion and respect the opinion of others.
Rodri was great. Liverpool were meh.
It would help if you explained your opinion though, and why you seem to believe that the English national anthem is some sort of sacrosanct song that should never be booed.
I was nearly going to say that I thought Rodri might be liable to overplay a bit. And they've already got John Stones for that.
A touch too many when the ball needs moving on?
It's a guess about Rodri though, really.
A touch too many when the ball needs moving on?
It's a guess about Rodri though, really.
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Booing the anthem used to be a very tokenistic anti Establishment thing.
Is it Brexit not happening now? (in the general sense)
Liverpool will have their own reasons & they will want to do it more, would be my guess.
You could say similar-ish about Sterling & ex players in general, imo. Sterling has to get it more, because they are Liverpool.
Is it Brexit not happening now? (in the general sense)
Liverpool will have their own reasons & they will want to do it more, would be my guess.
You could say similar-ish about Sterling & ex players in general, imo. Sterling has to get it more, because they are Liverpool.
Sterling should have won it for City with that one on one chance.
The Queen has no power and is basically a glorified tourist attraction who's dedicated her entire life towards her country. Would you seriously swap your life for hers? Still getting dragged around charity days and schools at 93. I wouldn't.
You should be more worried about Boris getting into a position of actual power, if you're worried about unelected people in positions of power.
Where did this booing come from all of a sudden anyway? What has the queen done recently to piss off the scousers?
Probably would have. But there was only a split second when he looked anything like doing that.
Just a flash of a moment after him standing still having been given the ball & just before he looked around to pass it to someone else.
And I might be being generous.
And he sees Thanos.
