You are watching us through rose tinted glasses then because we are as bad, if not worse now.
Hence my observation that those voting "Sack" are in essence supporting Woodward. And are, in essence, voting for more of the same crap from on-high.
Whether you enjoyed it or not, he did have a style. I hated it and LvGs final season was the closest I came to not watching every game.
We lack quality in the final third and solidity in midfield and as such, I think we would be better with those players.
You're probably right, I just think the majority of the fanbase hated the boring football Van Gaal loved.
I want Woodward out but see no benefit to sacking Ole just yet, the squad is massively lopsided to the level any top manager is going to struggle. Continually changing the manager just gives these players another excuse.
I can see where you're coming from I agree, it mirrors a lot of what I've been thinking myself.
You don't get to decide if people prefer the football Ole plays compared to Van Gaal, it's subjective.
correct.
Fine is not good enough for a world record defender and James did feck all last night. Not being as bad as Lingard and Rashford doesn't mean he played well.
You voted keep didn’t you? Although for the obvious reason you just posted..Love it how Spurs and Pool fans vote for keep.
Most of the ones in bold were talented but a bad fit for the club for various reasons. ADM & Mhki were too soft for English football, Bailly is braindead, Matic is aging and Lukaku has a poor attitude. I don't see the same types of red flags with the new lads. All are young, hungry and comfortable in the English game. That's what is meant by finding players who are the right fit for the club. Ole's approach has been excellent in this regard.
That makes zero sense.
That doesn't make any sense. Both didn't play a single minute in the preseason and Lukaku was negotiating with Inter the whole summer. When the deal gets concluded was just a matter of time, and he was completely out of Ole's plans. We had far more than enough time to secure a replacement if we wanted to, but the only striker we were interested in the whole summer was Mandzukic and that happened late during the window.
Maybe not God but I reckon Fergie would
So let's keep a terrible manager to show that we want Glazers and Ed out ? Makes total sense yeah.
AT least Ole's poor football probably isn't intentional. Even when LVG got it going to plan, it was still dire to watch.
I meant fine relative to his price and standing. He's improved us. Unfortunately his CB partner has been poor. You may well be right about going back into the market but it will be to find a partner for Maguire if so. James was good last night. Pretty sure there's a solid consensus on that point.
To be fair there were several big games where the plan worked and produced great football. Spurs and Liverpool away spring to mind.
Ed won't get the sack though and Glazers won't leave. Ed will outlive a 4th manager he appointed and I'd say that's the biggest problem right now, not the actual manager.
You really shouldn’t feel that way, and you’re probably not alone.
Yeah, so? good managers win matches with worse players all the time.
Nice.
Nice logic there.
So IF Woodward sacks Ole in the morning, that is the 'right' thing for the club.
Thanks.
It's not nonsense at all, Manchester United is a unique stand-alone club, every man and his dog has an opinion about us, and isn't slow coming forward sharing those opinions, it's beyond laughable now - the scrutiny on Liverpool and City combined doesn't come anywhere close to the scrutiny on United making it a damn sight easier to go into those clubs and be successful.
I’ve explained my reasoning and I’m at a point that this season is probably gone anyway. Best chance he will be gone by the end of October and we will be again with a short squad and no way of coming back to challenge for top 4.
True I’m not even expecting much from us. The squad looks a mess and it’s going to be a struggle for top 4 but again you don’t need world class players to at least have a game plan. That’s my biggest worry, we generally look clueless.
What does it even mean “he knows the club”?
What I'm saying is Vidic and Evra weren't being touted as top players wanted by every club like De Ligt. They were more or less brought in under the radar. I'm not saying AWB and Maquire are bad signings, not by any means but signing one of the best RBs in the 2018/2019 season and signing one of the best CBs is hardly great knowledge in the transfer market as many here believe.
I don't disagree with this, however it doesn't make Ole any kind of blameless.
Yes it's. Ole is a terrible manager, regardless of our opinion on Woodward. Being Ole out camp doesn't necessary makes any of us Woodward or Glazers in. That's kinda naive to think like that.
