Manchester United 1:1 Liverpool

meamth · Oct 16, 2019

Class of 63 said:
I'm totally buzzing off your positivity

Realistically, that team will stop any team in the PL.

Would be an interesting game to watch. :lol:

Maguire spreads the ball to the left flank to start a counter, Rojo snatched the ball, a couple of stepovers, rabona cross to Dalot, Dalot lay off to Jones, Jones..Jones.....JOOOONEESSS!!!!

PHIL JONES SCORED FOR UNITED AT THE 95th minute, Manchester United..is back to their best!

Magnificent header of his face to the ground, the ball literally bounced of the back of his head, confusion for Allisson, and the ball went in!

Ole's on the wheel!

Tom Cato · Oct 16, 2019

jderbyshire said:
What's this stat, out of interest?

We allow the least shots on target in the EPL and have the lowest expected GA.

On top of that, MUFC is ranked third in avg posession, 5th in aerial duels won, 5th in pass accuracy, 5th in shots per game, third nastiest team with 19 yellow cards. And dead bottom last in finishing quality (I made that up, I haven't checked that stat but I'm pouting so I'll present it as a made up fact).

Fact of the matter remains that our on pitch play coupled with our finishers not taking a undeserved vacation in the middle of the season opening, would see us somewhere entirely different in the table as opposed to the mess we are currently in. These injuries are killing us.

McGrathsipan · Oct 16, 2019

meamth said:
Subs would be:
1. Grant
2. Bailly with his casts on
3. Timo Fosu
4. Dishon Bernard
5. Max Taylor
6. Laird
7. Ercolani
8. Brandon Williams

FA won't notice, nobody cares anyway. I don't trust our attack!! Let's park the bus!

Maybe even nick a one nil :-)

Vault Dweller · Oct 16, 2019

edcunited1878 said:
park the bus, park the bus, man united, park the bus, park the bus I say...park the bus, park the bus, man united, playing football the Mourinho way!

I think 'Jose' is a better fit there for that song.

jderbyshire · Oct 16, 2019

Tom Cato said:
We allow the least shots on target in the EPL and have the lowest expected GA.

On top of that, MUFC is ranked third in avg posession, 5th in aerial duels won, 5th in pass accuracy, 5th in shots per game, third nastiest team with 19 yellow cards. And dead bottom last in finishing quality (I made that up, I haven't checked that stat but I'm pouting so I'll present it as a made up fact).

Fact of the matter remains that our on pitch play coupled with our finishers not taking a undeserved vacation in the middle of the season opening, would see us somewhere entirely different in the table as opposed to the mess we are currently in. These injuries are killing us.

Can't argue with any of that.

DRM · Oct 16, 2019

Dumbstar said:
5 days to go.

Fecking dreadful, meaningless internationals.

I'd say the internationals were a welcome break from watching this shower of a united side

johanovic · Oct 16, 2019

Hopefully we will stop trying to play with a number 10 as we do not have anyone good enough for this role.
Play 4-4-2 with Romero(De Gea injured?), Bissaka,Lindelof,Maguire,Shaw, Pereira,McTominey,Pogba,James,Martial,Rashford.
A.Madrid are one of the teams that play 4-4-2 and I think letting Pereira fill in for Pogba when he would push up could be a strong move. When defending our strikers would fall back very closely to the midfield 2 and the team would have to keep a compact shape both when sitting back or pressing. I think trying to play with a number 10 like Mata,Lingard or Gomes(I hope he will be ready one day) is clearly not working and IF Rashford and Martial can supplement each other and AND work very hard then I think this is the answer for us.

wolvored · Oct 16, 2019

This could go 2 ways imo. We will be outplayed in either scenario.
Rashford will shin one in and win a flukey game, and they will do everything but score. The other scenario we get hammered 4-0 and probably we have 0 shots on target.
I can see either scenarios happening. Usually its like an FA cup game where either side could win it.

Denis' cuff · Oct 16, 2019

Can’t ever remember being less motivated by a United/dippers game

minoo-utd · Oct 16, 2019

Any updates on injuries?

Sassy Colin · Oct 16, 2019

Axel or Lindelof?

FrankDrebin · Oct 16, 2019

Sassy Colin said:
Axel or Lindelof?

Both ?
Can see a 3 at the back system with AWB and Young as wingbacks.

Sir Scott McToMinay · Oct 16, 2019

Sassy Colin said:
Axel or Lindelof?

Both in a 5-3-2 for me.

Needham · Oct 16, 2019

Can't believe the club is going ahead with this game. We are in no position to play Liverpool.

Zoo · Oct 16, 2019

Needham said:
Can't believe the club is going ahead with this game. We are in no position to play Liverpool.

We are in 12th position. Fact.

Needham · Oct 16, 2019

Zoo said:
We are in 12th position. Fact.

Bullish! Love that attitude.

ottosec · Oct 16, 2019

So Pogba, DDG, AWB, Shaw, and Martial all out for this?

It's gonna be a long 90 min.

Sassy Colin · Oct 16, 2019

ottosec said:
So Pogba, DDG, AWB, Shaw, and Martial all out for this?

It's gonna be a long 90 min.

Pogba no and DDG unlikely, but hopeful for the rest. Time was when a player coming back from injury would never start their first game back, but be given the last 20 minutes.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...ews/man-united-injury-news-liverpool-17093188

Chaky_Best · Oct 16, 2019

Ole will not play 3-5-2. It will send a bad message to the fans and a positive one to Pool.

We can't use properly the 3-5-2 as we don't have enough IQ to use the space. Or we can say that Ole and Phelan are not clever enough to make us play with this formation.

It will be a 4-3-3 probably, with Matic Pereira Mc Tominay in midfield and the mindset will be to defend low and hope for a miracle.

Like I said two weeks ago, it will be the last "real" game for Ole, as if we lose this one, he will be gone after Norwich and Bournemouth.

Hope I am wrong, but with one or two more defeats, we'll be around 15th 16th position and that's unbelievable

charlenefan · Oct 16, 2019

Fecking International Breaks

Should be longer than just two weeks

Sandikan · Oct 16, 2019

A mate just mailed me De Gea is out for "2 months".

Yet I can't see anywhere saying that. It's all "might be" a risk for the weekend.

Sound quite different ends of the spectrum!

Reading that link, Pogba might have a chance still, but the others being a doubt still is worrying. How can Shaw and Wan Bissaka still be doubts for goodness sake.

ayushreddevil9 · Oct 16, 2019

Class of 63 said:
Oh it would.

What I meant to say that was nothing can make these players be up for it. There's no fight in this lot.

tomaldinho1 · Oct 16, 2019

Putting my mystic Meg hat on, judging by Ole's tactics so far you can almost guarantee we'll see a return of the diamond midfield & Mata starting at 10.

charlenefan · Oct 16, 2019

Sandikan said:
A mate just mailed me De Gea is out for "2 months".

Yet I can't see anywhere saying that. It's all "might be" a risk for the weekend.

Sound quite different ends of the spectrum!

Reading that link, Pogba might have a chance still, but the others being a doubt still is worrying. How can Shaw and Wan Bissaka still be doubts for goodness sake.

Yeah it's the Sun who are saying he might be out for 2 months, right below it they also say Allegri is very close to becoming manager :lol:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/10125396/man-utd-news-live-de-gea-mourinho-allegri/

crossy1686 · Oct 16, 2019

This might be the first time we've played Liverpool and I'm debating whether or not to watch it or just check the final score.

And I'm optimistic along the lines of anything can happen in a derby...

Class of 63 · Oct 16, 2019

ayushreddevil9 said:
What I meant to say that was nothing can make these players be up for it. There's no fight in this lot.

Not having that, in every team/squad there are players that look as though they are not up for it when results are poor and the team are low on confidence and that's when you most need your Captain, we don't have one!

Class of 63 · Oct 16, 2019

Get AWB to man-mark Mane, Axel on Salah, flood the midfield and we've got this.

StrettyEnder07 · Oct 16, 2019

Sandikan said:
A mate just mailed me De Gea is out for "2 months".

Yet I can't see anywhere saying that. It's all "might be" a risk for the weekend.

Sound quite different ends of the spectrum!

Reading that link, Pogba might have a chance still, but the others being a doubt still is worrying. How can Shaw and Wan Bissaka still be doubts for goodness sake.

Seen a few things on Twitter but nothing confirmed yet, wouldn't surprise me if 2 months with how the season is going, everyone seems to be out for ages!

Few back Sunday hopefully, dreading to see the patched up side we go with.

Klopper76 · Oct 16, 2019

So I know you're all full of doom and gloom at the moment but I've been watching Liverpool for 20 years now. In that time I've seen us win at Old Trafford five times:

0-1 in 2000/01
0-1 in 2001/02
0-1 in 2003/04 (Murphy scored the winner in all three)
1-4 in 08/09
0-3 in 13/14

It's a wretched record and I'm pretty sure it's our worst ground for results. United winning this game is far from unlikely.

Eric7C · Oct 16, 2019

Klopper76 said:
So I know you're all full of doom and gloom at the moment but I've been watching Liverpool for 20 years now. In that time I've seen us win at Old Trafford five times:

0-1 in 2000/01
0-1 in 2001/02
0-1 in 2003/04 (Murphy scored the winner in all three)
1-4 in 08/09
0-3 in 13/14

It's a wretched record and I'm pretty sure it's our worst ground for results. United winning this game is far from unlikely.

In all that time, United have never been this bad. And you could argue Liverpool have not been this good.

Class of 63 · Oct 16, 2019

StrettyEnder07 said:
Seen a few things on Twitter but nothing confirmed yet, wouldn't surprise me if 2 months with how the season is going, everyone seems to be out for ages!

Few back Sunday hopefully, dreading to see the patched up side we go with.

Check out the patched up side we took to Juanfield.

Klopper76 · Oct 16, 2019

Eric7C said:
In all that time, United have never been this bad. And you could argue Liverpool have not been this good.

There's an argument to say that United were playing worse in 13/14, even if the squad is worse now?

Yagami · Oct 16, 2019

This will be our sweetest victory in quite some time!

EngimaMK · Oct 16, 2019

I'm absolutely dreading this game. We've always done okay against Liverpool, even in our lean years (a few stark examples aside) but I have no faith in this squad to put up a decent fight. I hope it just isn't an embarrassing scoreline.

After the big win against Chelsea in the first game of the season, I was hugely optimistic and thought maybe the grit, "United Way" and togetherness would get us through a tough season. How quickly that faith dissipated!

Come on United ... let's use this game to turn a corner. Failing that, lets at least not get a humping!

always_hoping · Oct 16, 2019

Klopper76 said:
So I know you're all full of doom and gloom at the moment but I've been watching Liverpool for 20 years now. In that time I've seen us win at Old Trafford five times:

0-1 in 2000/01
0-1 in 2001/02
0-1 in 2003/04 (Murphy scored the winner in all three)
1-4 in 08/09
0-3 in 13/14

It's a wretched record and I'm pretty sure it's our worst ground for results. United winning this game is far from unlikely.

Wretched record because United were simply better than Liverpool for the best part of 2 decades. Roles reversed so you can stop playing the poor mouth. United have become like Everton whereby hoping they can nick a draw at home to Liverpool. Truthfully this a game Liverpool should be winning comfortably but it won't surprise me if Liverpool get the rub of the green to win 2-1 or 1-0.

el3mel · Oct 16, 2019

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Eric7C · Oct 16, 2019

Klopper76 said:
There's an argument to say that United were playing worse in 13/14, even if the squad is worse now?

Not for me. Moyes, as bad as he was, is a much better manager than Ole. Our players in 13/14 were coming from the winning the league just months before. Except for Pogba and Maguire, nobody would get into that team. This is the worst United team in 25 years.

Shark · Oct 16, 2019

This is starting to feel like when we played a depleted Arsenal and won 8-2, have the feeling we’re going to be in the end of an absolute humiliation.

adexkola · Oct 16, 2019

Tom Cato said:
We allow the least shots on target in the EPL and have the lowest expected GA.

On top of that, MUFC is ranked third in avg posession, 5th in aerial duels won, 5th in pass accuracy, 5th in shots per game, third nastiest team with 19 yellow cards. And dead bottom last in finishing quality (I made that up, I haven't checked that stat but I'm pouting so I'll present it as a made up fact).

Fact of the matter remains that our on pitch play coupled with our finishers not taking a undeserved vacation in the middle of the season opening, would see us somewhere entirely different in the table as opposed to the mess we are currently in. These injuries are killing us.

Thanks for the added context. Suggest we need a few tweaks as opposed to a massive overhaul in order to be in a more respectable position

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