Russia intervention | Threat to UK report published at 10:30 BST

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If it had been released before the election then people might have been looking more closely at that election. Which is course isn’t covered by this report which was concluded before it.
Yep, and maybe it would have been nice if that election was/is looked at.
 

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Yep, and maybe it would have been nice if that election was/is looked at.
The current government benefited from it so are unlikely to look at this in any depth. They've already covered it up and span the report as much as they could.

Maybe they will put together a commission to investigate Russian interference. Chaired by Dominic Cummings, who lived in Russia in the 90s with very little knowledge of what he did there.

Putin must have won a bet to get "Boris" as PM in the UK.
 

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Yep absolute joke. The right wingers trying to spin the story so it states there was no interference when the report does not state that. The brain dead will read those headlines and assume that is the case. The cycles keep going.
Wow, sounds familiar.
 

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Government response to the reports recommendation that the referendum should be investigated by the intelligence agencies..

We have seen no evidence of successful interference in the EU referendum.

The intelligence and security agencies produce and contribute to regular assessments of the threat posed by hostile state activity, including around potential interference in UK democratic processes. We keep such assessments under review and, where necessary, update them in response to new intelligence, including during democratic events such as elections and referendums. Where new information emerges, the government will always consider the most appropriate use of any intelligence it develops or receives, including whether it is appropriate to make this public. Given this long standing approach, a retrospective assessment of the EU referendum is not necessary.
So basically, we never saw any evidence we deliberately didn’t look for, so there’s no need to look for any.
 

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Government response to the reports recommendation that the referendum should be investigated by the intelligence agencies..



So basically, we never saw any evidence we deliberately didn’t look for, so there’s no need to look for any.
The Government is just a full blown joke but they know they can keep getting away with it.
 

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All I can think about both this and the US situation is kudos to Russia. Identified which parties would happily accept outside influence in exchange for power and played them like fiddles to advance Russian interests.

Given where Russia was geopolitically just 15 years ago, it's a huge turnaround. They were heading towards irrelevance and now have power over two other world powers, and a kind of weird working relationship with China too.
 

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So according to twitter MI6 doesn't have the authority to launch such an interference investigation without order from the foreign secretary. Which was of course Boris for some time.

Who the feck independently keeps check of our politicians then?
 

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The Government is just a full blown joke but they know they can keep getting away with it.
They’re not a joke, they are literally threatening U.K. democracy right here in front of us. Unless something is done and quickly, then the joke is going to be on all of us.
 

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Ultimately none of this will matter, generally the British people like to suffer in hopes of maintaining aspirations of growing into a Tory one day.
 

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Government response to the reports recommendation that the referendum should be investigated by the intelligence agencies..

So basically, we never saw any evidence we deliberately didn’t look for, so there’s no need to look for any.
Labour need to be all over this. It doesn't matter what the government's assessment is if the conclusion from the investigation is that one needs to be done.
 

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Labour need to be all over this. It doesn't matter what the government's assessment is if the conclusion from the investigation is that one needs to be done.
Completely agree. Starmer needs to go nuclear over this.

I’ve just been checking the right wing press coverage and both the Telegraph and Mail are talking about it, although the Sun is still claiming no interference in Brexit. The Mail still went with a ‘Remainers will be furious’ approach though, which I assume will be the government’s approach. Paint the whole thing as just a last desperate whine from the Remain side.
 

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Potential for a whistleblower appearing in future?

The chance that intelligence agencies haven't looked for evidence of interference sounds remote, even if they didn't officially have directive to find / report it at the time. It'd be an important part of a huge tapestry of intelligence / defence.
 

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What's the point in a report if they aren't going to investigate it? How is the system this broken everywhere?
 

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Take Back Control!... from Brussels and hand it to Moscow on a silver platter
 

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What's the point in a report if they aren't going to investigate it? How is the system this broken everywhere?
Because it was entirely built on the assumption people would work in good faith.
 

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The reality is that for as long as it's acceptable for individuals or private companies to make large donations to political parties, they will continue to buy influence. If they actually even uncovered a tiny fraction of the corruption that goes on at the highest levels, it would be mind blowing.

Individuals are not donating millions to a political party because they just want them to do what is in the best interest of the people.
 

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The answer, according to those who gave evidence to the ISC, is the influence of Russia in the UK and especially the power of its money which has seeped deep into public life.

A whole class of people - lawyers, bankers, accountants and public relations professionals - have themselves become wealthy from the Russian money that has flowed into the UK, and particularly into the City of London.

That has created an influential group who have constantly pushed to avoid a hard line on Moscow, including on sanctions.

If the report does pay significant attention to political donations from Russia, this could prove controversial.
I love how Russian money that has some magical corrupting property unlike other normal money.
 

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I love how Russian money that has some magical corrupting property unlike other normal money.
If that money is being used to influence people towards a viewpoint inherently damaging to the country, then how could it not be corrupting?
 

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If that money is being used to influence people towards a viewpoint inherently damaging to the country, then how could it not be corrupting?
Neh mate, Russians are famous for their philanthropy and ask for nothing in return I am sure.
 

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If that money is being used to influence people towards a viewpoint inherently damaging to the country, then how could it not be corrupting?
I agree it could be, but this suspicion towards large mounts of money should be much broader. I am actually scared at how much Russia crops up in Western liberal circles as this unique actor, reminds me of Indira Gandhi saying "foreign hand" whenever anything went wrong.