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Wow.

Bold statement but loving the optimism
It's not really that bold. During Jose's time that season despite accumulating our highest points tally post SAF we were already tired of him and the football by the Sevilla game. The end of the season was crap and the football was dire. We were obviously already going downward unless if we could have strengthen in the summer to help us get back in track but we didn't.

In this case we ended the season stronger(I'm gonna ignore the last few games where we were leggy for obvious reasons).

Post lockdown or since Bruno's arrival we have the best form in the league and that's in a quite substantial sample(14 games I think).

Unlike the first part of the season which I'm sure people factor in to assess our level as a team we have both Pogba and Bruno, emergence of Greenwood, the improvement and consistency of Martial post lockdown and then we've also added VBD which means we'll be seeing even less of the likes of Lingard and Perreira.

We're simply in a different situation to that summer with Mourinho.
 

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Not even remotely similar?

17/18 - fell over the line to finish 2nd and ended the season losing a cup final
19/20 - fell over the line to finish 3rd and ended the season losing a cup SF

Summer 2018, sign a GK, midfielder and a cheap defender
Summer 2020, bring a GK back from loan, sign a midfield and if this thread is true a cheap defender

Not even remotely similar? Think you need to look that term up
I'm talking about the circumstances surrounding those ending to the seasons rather than what exactly happened with respect to players coming in or out.

We clearly need to apply context here.

In 17/18 we fell over the line to finish 2nd because we were simply crap. However in 19/20 we fell over the line to finish third because of fatigue due to extraordinary circumstances never seen before. An overloaded schedule with games coming almost every 3 days due to the pandemic. We ended the season on a long unbeaten run in the league. Team broke records scoring goals post lock down and ended up as the team in the best form since the arrival of Bruno(14 games).

Fatigue caught up to us and players became leggy and this was caused in part due to Ole not rotating because he didn't trust his bench enough. We've however tried to fix this issue with bringing in VBD which add much needed depth to our team.

You look at the way we started last season to how we ended, we're clearly on an upward path. People haven't realized this yet but this team compared to the whole of last season has added Bruno, Pogba and VDB. Just imagine a transfer where we bring in those 3, people would be extremely exited because that would be a lot of quality. Then you add the fact that Martial massively improved post lock down and became consistent while Greenwood truly emerged post lock down as well(the beauty and advantages of having young players in your team. There is always a chance they'll improve massively which in itself is like new signings from the level they started the season with).

Like I said completely different scenarios.
 

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People raging at the club for being stingy, I mean he'd be backup to Shaw when he gets here, are people comfortable playing whatever huge amount of money for squad players. He's most likely to play a lot of games due to Shaw unreliable fitness but from the Club's perspective they are still bringing in to add depth so they negotiate accordingly.
 

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That was in late 2010, so Villa as others mentioned would make sense.
I remember rooney making a fuss that year that we didnt sign Ozil and wanted to leave due to lack of signings. Put in transfer request iirc
 

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People raging at the club for being stingy, I mean he'd be backup to Shaw when he gets here, are people comfortable playing whatever huge amount of money for squad players. He's most likely to play a lot of games due to Shaw unreliable fitness but from the Club's perspective they are still bringing in to add depth so they negotiate accordingly.
He is seriously a good LB for cup competitions and I believe Ole thinks we have a good PL team, VDB and Regulion will come good in the CL due to slightly more open game.
In both semi finals of FA Cup and Europa, we were just not up for it.
 

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People raging at the club for being stingy, I mean he'd be backup to Shaw when he gets here, are people comfortable playing whatever huge amount of money for squad players. He's most likely to play a lot of games due to Shaw unreliable fitness but from the Club's perspective they are still bringing in to add depth so they negotiate accordingly.
He doesn’t need to be backup. We could move Shaw to LCB and play Reguilon as LB, and would be a much better team.
 

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Madrid fans seem to rate this guy as a really reliable source.

"As I mentioned this morning, both clubs are negotiating with a predisposition to reach an agreement and Reguilón has already decided to sign for #MUFC . A matter of hours before the signing is closed except for a now almost unlikely turn."

 

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Madrid fans seem to rate this guy as a really reliable source.

"As I mentioned this morning, both clubs are negotiating with a predisposition to reach an agreement and Reguilón has already decided to sign for #MUFC . A matter of hours before the signing is closed except for a now almost unlikely turn."

Great news. We desperately need another LB.
 

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Your analysis is copied from the Athletic, can you at least credit them
I did preface with “I was reading up on him” and made no attempt to pass off that quote as my own analysis, but you’re right, you can never over-cite these days - I will start linking to articles when I quote text from them.
 

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Spanish paper bullshit again. English media haven’t said any deal is close.
 

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Question....

I understand the purpose of Madrid wanting a buy back clause but its also being reported if that wont work then they want "first refusal" on the player. What is the point?

Wont that depend on us wanting to sell in the first place and even they then would have to match any other teams best offer? Even then wont it still come down to where the player wants to go?
 

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Spanish paper bullshit again. English media haven’t said any deal is close.
not saying this deal is surely going to happen, but English media haven't known anything about our recent deals. We seem to give them absolutely nothing these days.
 

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Question....

I understand the purpose of Madrid wanting a buy back clause but its also being reported if that wont work then they want "first refusal" on the player. What is the point?

Wont that depend on us wanting to sell in the first place and even they then would have to match any other teams best offer? Even then wont it still come down to where the player wants to go?
Yes, giving them first refusal would be more than fine as it'd all be up to us potentially wanting to sell in the future.

Like Romano reported today, we'd not accept any buy-back clauses and rightly so. That said, negotiations are obviously continuing, which seems to be a clear indication both sides want the deal to materialise.
 

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Not even remotely similar?

17/18 - fell over the line to finish 2nd and ended the season losing a cup final
19/20 - fell over the line to finish 3rd and ended the season losing a cup SF

Summer 2018, sign a GK, midfielder and a cheap defender
Summer 2020, bring a GK back from loan, sign a midfield and if this thread is true a cheap defender

Not even remotely similar? Think you need to look that term up
It’s not remotely similar though is it? It’s true we limped over the line to second as you say in 2018 as we were on a decline. This season we got better as the season went on and we clicked when Bruno came in, Pogba came back and Greenwood burst through.

in 2018 we bought Grant to be THIRD choice - Henderson is significantly better and also you’re using this to fit your similarity narrative - we haven’t signed him, he just got a contract extension. Big difference
Fred and VDB are both midfielders, that’s true.
Dalot was 19 and had played like 8 games for Porto. He was rated quite highly. Sergio Reguilon was voted the best LB in La Liga last year and won the Europa League, beating us and putting in great performances all season.


Just wait until the transfer window is over and try not to be so negative.
 

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Sergio Reguilon was voted the best LB in La Liga last year and won the Europa League, beating us and putting in great performances all season.
Then why are Madrid happy to lose him and why can’t he challenge to get the a slot in their team?
 

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Then why are Madrid happy to lose him and why can’t he challenge to get the a slot in their team?
Because they’ve just bought Mendy and also have Marcelo! They also need money so if you’ve got three left backs, one is a club legend and 32, one has just been signed and one has spent the last season on loan, who would you sell?
they want a buyback though so that shows they know he’s good
 

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Then why are Madrid happy to lose him and why can’t he challenge to get the a slot in their team?
They’ve spent big on Mendy so will prioritise him. They also still have Marcelo who they won’t replace yet. Obviously they want this guy back in a few years too.
 

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This is happening. Far too much smoke not to. If we are spending the Sancho money, i hope we do it on Thiago and Dayot as well. No to Bale
If we had ‘the Sancho money’, we’d buy Sancho.
 

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It would be fine if united increased the buy back to €40m. They basically get him back for free after united pay the same fee. That way united get a bit of profit. Otherwise it benefits no one but Madrid.
 
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Then why are Madrid happy to lose him and why can’t he challenge to get the a slot in their team?
I don't think they're happy about it, it's just they had already invested in Mendy who is doing well for them and Marcelo isn't finished yet. They just don't have room to also let Reguilón compete.

They also let Hakimi leave who managed 10 assists and 5 goals as a RWB and that wasn't because they were happy to lose him either.
 

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I've become so pessimistic this summer. At first I was so optimistic and thought we'd finally sell Jones, Smalling, Lingard and a couple of others. We'd also sign Sancho and some other awesome players. Perhaps not fight for the title straight away, but secure top 4 with ease...

But this summer has been like this band aid that got stuck in the wound and just won't come of easy. So until I see anyone holding our jersey and I see the club doing an official announcement it ain't happening.
I'd refuse to believe anything even if all tier 1 journos wrote me a personal fecking letter telling me that they're 100% sure
 

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I don't think they're happy about it, it's just they had already invested in Mendy who is doing well for them and Marcelo isn't finished yet. They just don't have room for him to also let Reguilón compete.

They also let Hakimi leave who managed 10 assists and 5 goals as a RWB and that wasn't because they were happy to lose him either.
Not to mention the player wants to play instead of hanging around on the bench as the 3rd choice :lol:

It's the best decision for all involved
 

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Because they’ve just bought Mendy and also have Marcelo! They also need money so if you’ve got three left backs, one is a club legend and 32, one has just been signed and one has spent the last season on loan, who would you sell?
they want a buyback though so that shows they know he’s good
They’ve spent big on Mendy so will prioritise him. They also still have Marcelo who they won’t replace yet. Obviously they want this guy back in a few years too.
I don't think they're happy about it, it's just they had already invested in Mendy who is doing well for them and Marcelo isn't finished yet. They just don't have room to also let Reguilón compete.
They also let Hakimi leave who managed 10 assists and 5 goals as a RWB and that wasn't because they were happy to lose him either.
Got it. Thanks for explaining.
 

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I'm going to throw this out for a laugh, if we sign Sergio Reguilon would we consider using Shaw as the left CB?
 

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I'm going to throw this out for a laugh, if we sign Sergio Reguilon would we consider using Shaw as the left CB?
No, we'll just have good competition at LB
 

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I'm going to throw this out for a laugh, if we sign Sergio Reguilon would we consider using Shaw as the left CB?
He’s solid defensively as a left back but I think he’d get caught out too much at centre back. Your positioning has to be spot on and it’s why players like Lindelof, who I believe has the potential to be a very good centre back, isn’t quite there yet or may never be because his positioning is usually shite. Shaw would likely be the same.

Plus, it’d be a waste. Shaw is quite good going forward (mainly in the build up, no end product).
 

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He’s solid defensively as a left back but I think he’d get caught out too much at centre back. Your positioning has to be spot on and it’s why players like Lindelof, who I believe has the potential to be a very good centre back, isn’t quite there yet or may never be because his positioning is usually shite. Shaw would likely be the same.

Plus, it’d be a waste. Shaw is quite good going forward (mainly in the build up, no end product).
Lindelof is shit in the air that’s his problem. No suggestion Shaw would be any better in that department. He’d be decent as a LCB in a 5 but in Ole’s system him as back-up would give us great depth there.
 

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It would be fine if united increased the buy back to €40m. They basically get him back for free after united pay the same fee. That way united get a bit of profit. Otherwise it benefits no one but Madrid.
The buyback if it happens will be at least €50m

That's what happened with Morata in the same situation.
 

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