Edinson Cavani - Manchester United Player

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People who never watched him play thought he was target man like hoof the ball type target man.
It’s funny that people are realising how good he was in his prime. There was a comment on the cafe a couple of years ago that said Troy Deeney is a better striker than Cavani
Yeah it's kinda funny seeing these kinds of ideas popping up and actually gaining traction. The internet is basically a mindless mob.

They did the same with Lukaku and, it turned out, they were right with their original assessment. Most wanted Di Maria and Sanchez from the moment we were linked, but they were wrong. Same for many others. Not every player is going to be a hit here.

I'm not saying this with regards to Cavani, because I'm torn on how I think he'll do. Somewhere between decent if he's fit to absolute waste of time if he isn't.

But I was against us signing the 3 names that I mentioned and, like you, I was also annoyed to see people reeling out YouTube highlights and getting over excited about a player, but for a different reason...because you just knew they weren't the right fit for United and it wouldn't work. Fast forward a few months and you've then got people questioning how the club could get it so wrong.
Lukaku literally plays in the same league. For many years and was one of the top scorers as well. Kinda hard for anyone who supports man united to not notice how Lukaku plays.

The lazy narrative is when they've never seen Cavani play and then they see how tall he is and assume he is another target man and they imagine all target men are like Lukaku. Forgetting how good Harry Kane is. Because it doesn't suit their intended narrative of complaining.

Or they see he is south american with long hair and assume he will be another Falcao.

Cavani is neither.
 
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Yeah it's kinda funny seeing these kinds of ideas popping up and actually gaining traction. The internet is basically a mindless mob.


Lukaku literally plays in the same league. For many years and was one of the top scorers as well. Kinda hard for anyone who supports man united to not notice how Lukaku plays.

The lazy narrative is when they've never seen Cavani play and see how tall he is and assume he is another target man and they imagine all target men are like Lukaku. Forgetting how good Harry Kane is. Because it doesn't suit their intended narrative.

Or they see he is south american with long hair and assume he will be another Falcao.

Cavani is neither.
Yep. And you would never see the usual culprits admit to this.
 

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Cavani is a to class striker, he's one of the best in the last 10 years or so, right now he's 33, might not have the legs of yesteryears, but i still expect him to be much better than Martial at the number 9 position, his finishing with either foot is second to none, can hit them from long rang, moves intelligently off the ball, like to run in behind, can play short too, a threat in the air, brilliant chest control on the trun for a half volley strike... Pogba and Bruno would gain best when he's on form.

Ole would do well to have us playing more direct like Bayern München does play, long balls to either the wing(Telles, Rashy, Martial or Mason) or Central(Cavani or Pogba) were you have our more advance players then have our midfielder fighting for every second or lose ball, then move it quickly to the left wing(for Telles to whip in a cross) or to the right were we've got Mason or recycle the game to either Pogba or Bruno to create things. This system needs Fred in the team to play as a Destroyer, While Pogba plays in the Müller position then Burno plays free role for us keeping things tidy.

Cavani would benefit from this sort of style of play rather than the pass-pass and more passing to feet style we've been seeing of late, he needs Crosses into the box, Up through passes, or Diagonal passes to Martial, Rashy or Masion, Telles when free on the wings!!

Problem with our Midfielders is they take too many touches on the ball, Ole needs to show them clips of Scholesy or Roy Keane passing and pinning it out wide with either first touch or second touch. It pains me when a midfield player duals so much on the ball, when a midfielder does that it allows the opposition to cover spaces with that the chance to send an attacker forward is gone! Ole needs to talk to our Midfielders especially Pogba, i wonder what Carrick teaches them in Training. Week in week out you see our Midfielders doing the same thing, it's annoying to watch. having said that i think Cavani would benefit more if we play more directly through him or our wide players.
 

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Gotta say I’m really excited about this. Screw the naysayers, blind optimism is the best!
It's not really that blind though. He had a poor last season for a variety of reasons but the season before that he had 23 goals and the one before 40.
 

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I hope you are either kidding or that poster has been banned for eternity.
I dont care about his record, he's overrated and would struggle in the PL, he isn't better than say Jay Rodriguez, playing in a shit league for the best team in the country will always help him get good numbers
Rodriguez was great before the horrible injury and he's only coming back now and starts firing again...

Sure some of them has been hit in the PL, but Cavani doesnt strike me as a player who would really thrive here.. Someone like Zlatan has some strength and technical ability on him
Payet is technically brilliant player, same goes for Mahrez.
Kante has incredible stamina and workrate
...just to name few who are success here but you could find many more for sure

Cavani doesnt have any of that and that's why I think he would struggle, he would be on Charlie Austin level, just a pure finisher, great player to the box

Wouldn't take him over Troy Deeney either. Heskey would also score 200 goals for Napoli and PSG if they created 7000 chances for him, look at Higuain who is just really average player and Juventus paid 60m for him... that's fecking ridiculous but I guess it's just the general idea of people here overrating players from south america, players with good hair etc..

some highly rated players from the past failed here too and became average like Soldado, Krkic, Llorente..
Take a poll. I am sure coaches like pep will take deeney over cavani
 

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Gotta say I’m really excited about this. Screw the naysayers, blind optimism is the best!
I didn’t mean it in the literal sense matey, just figuratively. People righting him off before he’s even pulled on a shirt. The guy is class.
I'm not sure you're saying what you think you're saying. Might want to amend your post before more people misunderstand you.

That's just embarassing.
 

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I'll tell you what I think you're saying if you'll tell me what you think I thought you were saying .... I'm confused already .. haha :houllier::houllier::houllier::lol::lol::lol:
Simply that I'm really looking forward to seeing him play and I don't understand why, at this point and before the guy has even stepped onto the pitch, there is any negativity to this transfer.
 

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Simply that I'm really looking forward to seeing him play and I don't understand why, at this point and before the guy has even stepped onto the pitch, there is any negativity to this transfer.
No worries. All good. Just some light hearted nonsense.

For what it's worth, I do agree with you. People are letting their frustrations with the club bleed into this transfer and poisoning their thoughts about it.

I think the deal, on it's own, was reasonable. It has potential and I am willing to wait and see how things turn out. I hope by Dec, we'll have more good things to say rather than bad things.
 

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Is there any chance for him to feature against Newcastle?
 

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They did the same with Lukaku and, it turned out, they were right with their original assessment. Most wanted Di Maria and Sanchez from the moment we were linked, but they were wrong. Same for many others. Not every player is going to be a hit here.

I'm not saying this with regards to Cavani, because I'm torn on how I think he'll do. Somewhere between decent if he's fit to absolute waste of time if he isn't.

But I was against us signing the 3 names that I mentioned and, like you, I was also annoyed to see people reeling out YouTube highlights and getting over excited about a player, but for a different reason...because you just knew they weren't the right fit for United and it wouldn't work. Fast forward a few months and you've then got people questioning how the club could get it so wrong.
Yeah I think Lukaku is in a different category. He had the tools and the age to improve at United, and we thought he would develop those aspects of his game that were lacking (or at least I did) but it turned it out for whatever reason he was simply too limited for what we needed at the time.

Di Maria - He was one of the best wingers in the world at the time, however we clearly didn't do any investigation into his attitude or mentality. Which is something we've improved upon under Ole. Having a strong mentality and wanting to be here seems to be high on his priority list for a player. Which I totally agree with. Hopefully this will see the end of signings like Di Maria, talented but attitude wise they aren't here.

Sanchez - Well, anyone that watched Arsenal or spoke to their fans should have had concerns. If you look through my post history you'll see when we signed him I had posted a couple of times about him being a Rooney in his twighlight years in terms of wage and skill. I had said that my Arsenal supporting co-worker who attends games had told me Sanchez was massively and suddenly on the decline and he'd lost whatever it was that made him so great. Arsenal fans wern't that sad to see the back of him. I think we signed him just so City couldn't personally. His mentality was all wrong from day one too.

So basically, fans had a right to be excited about Di Maria and Sanchez because they aren't privy to scout reports about attitude and if we're honest, most don't watch other teams. However, I now have the confidence that if Ole gives the greenlight on a player, at the very least he'll have the right mentality. I definitely have reservations about Cavani like you. But my point was, lots of fans on here hated the idea of signing a Bale or James. However, I think both of those players would have been a success here where as I'm not sure about Cavani. Which is why I see it as a little daft people changing their tunes and getting out youtube highlights of the guy from years ago when Bale was laughed at as an injury prone hasbeen.
 

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Just some light hearted nonsense.
We need more of this!

I think the deal, on it's own, was reasonable. It has potential and I am willing to wait and see how things turn out. I hope by Dec, we'll have more good things to say rather than bad things.
It should only be viewed on it's own really, and it's only a year so we wouldn't be stuck with more dead wood should it not work out. Fantastic option for us though and different enough to Martial that we can hopefully utilise him properly.
 

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I knew he wasn't match fit but he won't be able to join training until he completes his 14 day quarantine? I guess we won't be seeing him for a while.
 

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I knew he wasn't match fit but he won't be able to join training until he completes his 14 day quarantine? I guess we won't be seeing him for a while.
Which makes it even more astonishing that we kept it so late until we signed him. The pure incompetence
 

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I knew he wasn't match fit but he won't be able to join training until he completes his 14 day quarantine? I guess we won't be seeing him for a while.
but but all our signings are ones we scout/finalize/target for ages?
 

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We need more of this!



It should only be viewed on it's own really, and it's only a year so we wouldn't be stuck with more dead wood should it not work out. Fantastic option for us though and different enough to Martial that we can hopefully utilise him properly.
I totally agree on both counts. Hopefully with the new signings, we have a stronger bench and more tactical flexbilities. Making us less predictable, etc etc.
 

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Is he on a 1+1 deal? Does that mean we can let him go next summer if he ends up being absolute tosh for us? Or can he choose to automatically renew for another year?
 

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This is one funny thing about all this. If the club is willing to pay for 2 tests, 3 - 5 days apart. Shouldn't they waive the isolation if both tests come back negative?
I thought it was UK law to oblige self-isolation if you've come from a listed a country? If so, not sure how we could just ignore it.
 

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Is he on a 1+1 deal? Does that mean we can let him go next summer if he ends up being absolute tosh for us? Or can he choose to automatically renew for another year?
Yes we can let him go next summer.

...And then release the number 7 shirt for Ja..... :houllier:
 

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I thought it was UK law to oblige self-isolation if you've come from a listed a country? If so, not sure how we could just ignore it.
It just seems absurd that you can have the person tested twice 5 days apart and proven to be negative and still require the person to self isolate for 2 weeks. Isolate while awaiting test results I can understand.
 

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This is one funny thing about all this. If the club is willing to pay for 2 tests, 3 - 5 days apart. Shouldn't they waive the isolation if both tests come back negative?
Alternatively, shouldn't we have signed him a few weeks earlier and avoided all this..??
 

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he wouldn't be match fit for the next few games anyway, he hasn't played since march. But it is ridiculous if he has to quarantine after negative tests.