Having a highly sophisticated rocket interception system is self defence.Yeah.... and anyone defends the actions of a terrorist organisation has the morale high ground. Now, I've heard it all
What benefits did WW2 bring? Maybe we should have more worldwide conflicts and genocideSo sophisticated that most of them are hiding in shelters
Israel is a terrorist country that is still reaping benefits from WW2 from all those stupid countries who believe in its right to exist.
Well, in this case, basically its existence, although the word "benefit" might be a little misleading depending on the understanding of the context.
Unfortunately this thread is littered with such terminology and direct Nazi-Israel analogies.
Yes subhuman began with the Nazi’s in the Second World War when persecuting the Jews I believe.
It’s not misleading, it’s crass!
Europe (in general) still pays them to this day for the atrocities committed, despite so many countries not having to do anything with the genocide itself. Add to the fact that it was Britain who kind of brought them back to the middle-east and eventually erupted this conflict since 48. There have been way more atrocities committed across the globe (armenian genocide, cambodian genocide) but nobody admits/mentions them, Belgium alone killed half of the cambodian population yet nobody nags about it. Israel is so good at playing the victim role and having been doing so for around 60-70 years now, time to wake up.
Well, I'd say that using said words does not necessarily make you a nazi or even some one leaning right, but it's still fascinating to see people using such words with either not knowing its origin and meaning or either being nazis/antisemites.
Not just Jews; gypsies/Roma/Slavs/indigenous Soviet peoples, and it wouldn’t have stopped there. They honed their concentration camp practices in Africa so goodness knows what they would have done to African and Asian people
Religion is a huge factor for both sides, but it plays a more significant role on the Judaist side regarding the occupied territories. Muslims hatred of the Jews is deep and religiously motivated, but the Palestinian protest against Israeli occupation is purely social / political.
Yes of course basically anybody got it from the Nazi’s even disabled or homosexual.
“Muslims” do not hate “Jews”. Can we avoid talking in absolutes?
Genocides around the globe subsequently have been largely ignored by the West as it wasn’t economically suitable. That’s not on Israel. So I really don’t know why you are taking the self righteous stance unless you clearly have an agenda against Israel.
They had a sense of style though that was seductive, great uniforms
As Bowie once saidHe was right though in that the states around Israel including the Palestinians refusal to acknowledge that Israel has a right to exist is a real problem. Some of the rhetoric about the destruction of the nation that has emanated from Palestinian leaders has only elicited a similar response from hard line Isrealis. It’s not going to change unless they can both accept each other
Both Jordan and Egypt, Israels biggest neighbours, have recognised Israel diplomatically. Lebanon and Syria haven't though.
You don't need an agenda to classify Israel as a terrorist country for all it has done against the palestinians/arabs in general across the years. There was no country called Israel, it was just the jewish who were cast out from Europe (through the Belfour agreement) that came back and were like yeah's let's start our own country because the brits promised us we can reclaim the lands we lost when we were living in Palestine.
We can have a separate discussion on the morality of Hamas' actions and rockets but please let's not create a false equivalence.Yeah.... and anyone defends the actions of a terrorist organisation has the morale high ground. Now, I've heard it all
I think things have changed a lot recently, it's an open secret the Saudi's don't have an issue with Israel same with the UAE. It's only really the Iranian aligned states that are opnely against Israel.
The divinely arranged one made me laugh, so Israel wants to be a secular state but be built based on religious belief and a promise from God that they have the right to have their own country even if it means killing other people for the sake of it? Maybe it was actually God's punishment bestowed on the Jewish people that they will never find rest? I mean look at them, keep on building walls and buying the most advanced equipment (military etc) cameras everywhere, drones and a few plastic-made rockets cause them to shit their pants. Imagine what would happen if they get fought with the same level of weapons they use. To me, if that nation is God's chosen people, then God is weak.
Israel actually always ranks near the very top of happiness indexes. It stands out among the other top ranking nations because of the strife that you mention. It makes it an interesting case study but I'd imagine that the common sense of identity and purpose there is a big factor in the contentedness of the people.
Wow. When you're allowing a book written around 3000 years ago to dictate the on going geopolitical landscape of the middle east, I don't think your opinion is as valid as you think it is.
Regardless of what you think of the religion, and the God of that religion, it's obviously sacred to practicing Jews. I don't think anyone would just assume they randomly laid their hat there in 1948.
I mean finding rest in actually having a safe state where they can live normally without the need to have so much military/control/drones watching their skies 24/7, for me it's like living in a prison with an open roof but if it makes them happy then okay...
I have nothing against their religion, same for christianity/islam. People are free to believe what they want to believe, but if we argue based on religion, then if they indeed contributed/had a direct say in the killing of God's son (according to christianity) then you would think God would punish them somehow?
There's fairly obvious reasons for that though? They're given tax breaks, tax free imports, accommodation, financial assistance, free courses, free transports in terms of services to relocate back to Israel. And then on top of that they can pretty much act with impunity once they're there.
not enough people want it
I'm a bit rusty on the topic, so maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
It's only 'lost on most' when you edit out context.
Simple, to get to the 2-state solution, you need more countries to acknowledge Palestine as a state first of all (the USA for one doesn't recognize it), and second, the Zionist aspect in Israel and the extreme Sunni aspect (Hamas) in Palestine would never want that, either one-side domination or nothing at all and plus I think it would be really difficult for any population to accept another one who's been killing them since 1948, taking their lands, expanding in their own territories, desecrating their religious places etc.
Okay...it just reminds me a bit of the British India partition into Pakistan & India.
So it's ok for your country to do this, because people tried to do it to you in the past. Makes sense.
Human Rights Watch said:
There's 2 already.
