You want to come in here trying to talk about the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict, and you don't even know about the 2nd Temple?
Are you serious right now?
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Are you serious right now?
I've been called worse! All the best.
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No.You want to come in here trying to talk about the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict, and you don't even know about the 2nd Temple?
Are you serious right now?
Oh thank god.
Thats the idea.
And you don't think substituting your family for 'people' more apt?
Treating people like 2nd class citizens? In the UK that's when the South-Eastern counties get brand new train carriages and give their old carriages to the North-West. Killing each other is something else altogether.
This is a quick video to show you what we’re facing.
What now?
Apparently the Jews and the Palestinians are related. According to DNA studies. That makes them Family, not just 'People'.
Oh, yeah I’ve got no argument against that. Goes along with archeology leaning toward Israelites integrating with the Canaanites rather than wiping them out per the Bible.
That said, I’ll be honest, I wasn’t really responding to that part of the post, just the sentiment about not treating folks like 2nd class citizens.
Ha, yes, as you said, it's been more or less the same population for centuries, just different sociocultural identities. But then again, "every person alive at this point in 10th-century Europe who left descendants is an ancestor of all Europeans alive today", and 3,400 years ago, "the entire population of the Earth were the ancestors of everyone alive today" (link). How's that for family!
Sure. I love those archeology programmes. Especially the ones where they find a tiny sliver of pottery and then show you a graphic of a large amphora. Although I'm beginning to wonder if ancient people only made amphoras or whether archeologists only find tiny slivers of amphoras. It's tricky.
The Palestinians aren't viewed as any type of specific citizens. Or humans. Post 'Bingo' now eh?
I remember reading this which I thought was a good summation of the conflict. The author also has multiple lectures available online which are also helpful for a quick insight.
I'm part African and Norse Pillager. How dare you suggest I'm European.
I just think the closer the same space you both occupy geographically and being the people who argue the most with each other definitely makes you more family.
Pfft, family is family!
(But no, you're not welcome to dinner tonight.)Thanks.
Yes, please enlighten me further how should I hand more money to the government. All those things you mention as 'free' are not free because you obviously pay for them.
Like I'm bothered, I already ate.Pfft, family is family!
The only reason I brought DNA up was because a poster was trying to claim that his/hers/theirs ancestors had the first claim on the land. In truth they all lived together quite reasonably together for the longest time imaginable.
In truth their differences are religion. Something else they literally shared at some point.
I think we've seen enough evidence over the last couple of days and the last 70 years to possibly believe they see each other as human beings let alone citizens or family.
You do know that Israel has stuff like universal healthcare and government subsidized college right?
Well they certainly seem to have been getting the short end of the stick in that department in recent years.
You don't do second dinner?
Anyway, I agree on all that, and also with people saying that history anyway isn't a good argument for current claims - especially ancient history.
Hearing reports of rockets launched from Lebanon.
Yeah, Hezbollah is apparently getting involved. If it doesn't stop quickly, it could get ugly.
Well shit
I do know that, I'm American. We were talking about US - Sweden.
Congratulations. You have unlocked children killing ability for having longest claim
You are not being serious, at least I hope so, you are not criticizing the system of on of the most developed countries and communities in the world, arent you?
Criticizing? No, why would I? I criticize your gloating how you can enlighten an American with your 'free' progressive social system, claiming and using the word 'free' many times. You surely understand that it is not free, when you pay 50% of your income for it, right?
Yeah. I know.
Apparently it was only 3 rockets, followed by a huge barrage in the south.
For fecks sake.
OK I’ve just read a report that suggests it was a Palestinian faction, not Hezbollah, and that all three rockets went into the sea. Hope to God it’s true.
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Apologies if this is a silly question because I’m really not well educated on the subject - how do Hamas manage to amass their weapons/rockets if Gaza is under blockade from Israel?
I'm guessing homemade from parts that are not meant to be used for rockets? They're pretty crappy rockets as far as I know
I don't know if it's the still the favored option but tunnels used to be one of them.