Brentford vs Manchester United

pascell · Dec 12, 2021

I think he'll swap Shaw for Telles and Greenwood for Rashford

Hugh Jass · Dec 12, 2021

Blood Mage said:
Suddenly not so optimistic about this one.

Same. It aint going to be pretty. I would say a draw.

Blood Mage · Dec 12, 2021

De Gea
Dalot - Bailly - Maguire - Telles
McTominay - Fred
Sancho - VDB
Greenwood - Ronaldo

Rashford and Bruno absolutely should be dropped for this one but I doubt it'll happen. I hope Cavani makes the bench because I'd rather not see Ronaldo play the full 90 mins either.

UncleBob · Dec 12, 2021

I‘d be very surprised if he picks the same lineup. One or more attacking players is being replaced

The most obvious changes are benching Rashford and Fernandes

el diablorojo · Dec 12, 2021

We're just a bus stop in Hounslow and we own that but leave off with the Stoke 2.0 comments - I know a lot of it is born out of ignorance but Thomas Frank is no Tony Pulis for a start

Looking forward to Tuesday, it's nights like this I'd never thought I'd see supporting Brentford for 30 odd years and I am loving the ride. See you Tuesday the lucky few who got one of the few away tickets available.

Utd heap · Dec 12, 2021

el diablorojo said:
We're just a bus stop in Hounslow and we own that but leave off with the Stoke 2.0 comments - I know a lot of it is born out of ignorance but Thomas Frank is no Tony Pulis for a start

Looking forward to Tuesday, it's nights like this I'd never thought I'd see supporting Brentford for 30 odd years and I am loving the ride. See you Tuesday the lucky few who got one of the few away tickets available.

What about those of us who are going to jib your home end?

el diablorojo · Dec 12, 2021

Utd heap said:
What about those of us who are going to jib your home end?

Best of luck - just don't stand/sit in my seat or my daughter's :nono:

Red Dreams · Dec 12, 2021

Its scary how quick these games are coming up.
3 days?
And Brentford are very good.

Bruno, Ronaldo and Rashford have to come off the bench.
Greenwood, Donny and Elanga should start. Or will Ralf start Martial?
Fred and McT did a great job and must surely start.
Bailly for Lindeloff.
Otherwise same defence

De Gea is a beast.

Reditus · Dec 12, 2021

Would expect Bailly and Greenwood to start. Lindelof shouldn’t be risked. Also expect Varane to come on for game time in the 2nd half.

Think we all now understand both McT and Fred are essentials for the time being. Nice to see they aren’t being as slated as much recently.

Although both Telles and Dalot were pretty ineffective going forward today I’d still expect them to keep their places. Today was a poor performance but generally we look ok at the back so far under Ralf so no need to change them

roseguy64 · Dec 12, 2021

RedPed said:
Hope we can get Varane and Cavani back soon. We will need them in this xmas run in. Going for a 2-1 win to United. Brentford have certainly been making their mark this season.

Yeah but I doubt either of them will be in for this game. Maybe Cavani on the bench. They have better chances of appearing against Brighton.

Ali Dia · Dec 12, 2021

Cavani is going to come in and change our season again but in the meantime we will probably lose or draw this.

Desert Eagle · Dec 12, 2021

Cavani, Greenwood, Bailly and Elanga to all come in for me. Possibly Donny for Bruno too.

Ralf stresses the physical commitment and challenge. Basically a nice way of telling our players you can't be divas on the pitch and to put in the hard yards.

TheReligion · Dec 12, 2021

I can see Shaw getting a game. Not sure about Lindelof but obviously if he can't play it will be Bailly.

I also would freshen up the forwards. I felt that Rashford was better towards the end against Norwich when Sancho came off. He was the left of the second 2. Be tempted to play him there if he's to start.

I see why people are switching Bruno but do we really think VDB has his vision and range of passing for that role? I'm not so sure. Pogba yes but Donny likes to play short one touch passes. I think in that two you need to be able to either beat your man or have a good passing range in order to quickly force the play.

Longlivekeano · Dec 12, 2021

—————————-DDG———————

Dalot——-Lindelof—Maguire—Shaw

————McTominay—VdB—————

—--—Lingard———————elanga——-

————Cavani——Greenwood———

To bench Bruno, Ronaldo, rashford, Sancho who were horrible yesterday. Really think the attacking half was dreadful. So need to freshen personnel upfront

UNITED ACADEMY · Dec 12, 2021

If you don’t feel optimistic then I will remind you one thing that Norwich beat Brentford this season.

AjaxCunian · Dec 12, 2021

Not going to be easy, but we should be expected to win. Wonder if any of Varane/Cavani will be back, drop Rashford for Greenwood and maybe Shaw/Telles, hoping for a better display but just one day to properly train and maybe 3 days of discussions/video footage. I can't imagine huge huge changes but the team is a bit better organised.

gajender · Dec 12, 2021

It would be United's most comfortable victory under Rangnick regime but we might concede a goal here .
Don't agree with the negativity at all in here.

horsechoker · Dec 12, 2021

De Gea

Shaw
Maguire
VL if fit/EB if not
Dalot

McSauce
Fred

Sancho
Bruno

Greenwood
Ronaldo

Not sure if Cavani or Varane are ready but I'd like Varane to get 30 minutes as well as VDB.

Orton · Dec 12, 2021

Brentford will be up for this. They’ve looked good against the big teams this season so people expecting an easy win should look at yesterday. Rashford shouldn’t play. Hopefully Cavani is fit to make an appearance.

horsechoker · Dec 12, 2021

Ralfy's first real test

Red00012 · Dec 12, 2021

horsechoker said:
De Gea

Shaw
Maguire
VL if fit/EB if not
Dalot

McSauce
Fred

Sancho
Bruno

Greenwood
Ronaldo

Not sure if Cavani or Varane are ready but I'd like Varane to get 30 minutes as well as VDB.

I think Varane is only joining full training today / tomorrow

slored1 · Dec 12, 2021

De Gea
Dalot - Bailly - Maguire - Shaw
McFred
Sancho - Van de Beek
Greenwood - Ronaldo

0-2 United.

Steve 007 · Dec 12, 2021

Varane has trained all week as has Shaw.

What I’d like to see.
DDG
AWB Varane (bailly if still not fit enough) Maguire Shaw.

Mct Fred

Greenwood VDB Sancho

Ronaldo

Why? Look how Shaw played last season when under pressure for his place.
Plus he knows the manager doesn’t rate him.

AWB is our best tackler, it has to be about clean sheets at the moment.

Varane is without a doubt our best defender.

McT and Free as we are choice less.

Greenwood as Rashford was rubbish yesterday.
VDB I think Bruno needs a holiday for 3 to 4 games.

Ronaldo as he’s our only scorer at the moment.

Yesterday I came back to Earth with a bump, we need to play the players who want it most.

Mike Smalling · Dec 12, 2021

Will they still be without Toney and Canos? If so, that should be a big factor.

Ayoba · Dec 12, 2021

Difficult to see a win here if I am honest. Brentford are a lot more physical than Norwich plus the crowd are a lot more vocal too, can't see how we won't stop them being all over us. Hoping for a 1-1 but I think it will end up 2-1 Brentford.

Ayoba · Dec 12, 2021

AjaxCunian said:
Not going to be easy, but we should be expected to win. Wonder if any of Varane/Cavani will be back, drop Rashford for Greenwood and maybe Shaw/Telles, hoping for a better display but just one day to properly train and maybe 3 days of discussions/video footage. I can't imagine huge huge changes but the team is a bit better organised.

RR said they will start proper training on Monday so I doubt they will be ready in time, which is a shame as we really could use both of them, especially Cavani with his pressing up front!

McGrathsipan · Dec 12, 2021

These lads are fit quick and well drilled everything United are not.
We have good individual players.

This could be very bad and it will be if we perform like the Norwich performance

yamo123x · Dec 12, 2021

Walters_19_MuFc said:
Greenwood Ronaldo
Lingard Sancho
Fred McTominay
Shaw Maguire Bailly Dalot
De Gea

This, but Lingard wants out so play Donny

Red00012 · Dec 12, 2021

Steve 007 said:
Varane has trained all week as has Shaw.

What I’d like to see.
DDG
AWB Varane (bailly if still not fit enough) Maguire Shaw.

Mct Fred

Greenwood VDB Sancho

Ronaldo

Why? Look how Shaw played last season when under pressure for his place.
Plus he knows the manager doesn’t rate him.

AWB is our best tackler, it has to be about clean sheets at the moment.

Varane is without a doubt our best defender.

McT and Free as we are choice less.

Greenwood as Rashford was rubbish yesterday.
VDB I think Bruno needs a holiday for 3 to 4 games.

Ronaldo as he’s our only scorer at the moment.

Yesterday I came back to Earth with a bump, we need to play the players who want it most.

Varane was only training on his own last week so he won’t be ready

el diablorojo · Dec 12, 2021

Mike Smalling said:
Will they still be without Toney and Canos? If so, that should be a big factor.

Toney may be back not confirmed yet. Canos will be back, he was suspended for yellows on Friday.

DomesticTadpole · Dec 12, 2021

BluesJr said:
There’s no way he picks the same team after witnessing that performance.

We play again Saturday dinnertime, you would think he would shuffle the side anyway.

Mike Smalling · Dec 12, 2021

el diablorojo said:
Toney may be back not confirmed yet. Canos will be back, he was suspended for yellows on Friday.

Not good. Can see Toney bullying Maguire.

UTD_Since_1978 · Dec 12, 2021

I looked at our PL fixtures for the next month or so a week ago & thought that they were very winnable & despite a very poor performance against Norwich I am still expecting UTD to win this game.

Tom Cato · Dec 12, 2021

11-0 win.

Telles 4, Dalot 4, Fred 4, but clapped the refs butt before scoring the 30m screamer so the 4th is disallowed.

Leftback99 · Dec 12, 2021

This has 'annual loss to newly promoted team' written all over it. I'd be surprised if we get a point.

UTD_Since_1978 · Dec 12, 2021

Leftback99 said:
This has 'annual loss to newly promoted team' written all over it. I'd be surprised if we get a point.

Ain't we already done that against Watford in Ole's last match?

Walters_19_MuFc · Dec 12, 2021

yamo123x said:
This, but Lingard wants out so play Donny

He wants out because of a lack of game time. :lol:

That said, I guess Donny will, too.

We need players that are better in tight spaces. Lingard and Donny are decent at this so I wouldn't mind either way.

Leftback99 · Dec 12, 2021

UTD_Since_1978 said:
Ain't we already done that against Watford in Ole's last match?

My mistake. Another one then.

Utd heap · Dec 12, 2021

Hearing a few whispers of a Covid outbreak at Utd and the game in doubt. On a few other forums.

Gerald G · Dec 12, 2021

De Gea
Dalot--Lindelof--Maguire--Shaw
McTominay--Fred
Sancho--Fernandes
Greenwood--Ronaldo

I don't actually think Ronaldo and Greenwood would work well together but Rashford stunk last game. I'd bring Shaw back and I'd be tempted to recall AWB too but will give Dalot another chance.

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