Not one of these charlatans deserve a new contract.
Pogba's contract offer
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From one commercial club to another, great. I love Pogba, but he's not what's needed at PSG. Tchouameni or Fofana on the other hand...
Bye! Thanks for nothing... literally nothing
Wijnaldum is a good example that it's more than being a good player, you need to find the right manager and teammates too, at PSG he's been completely a non entity. Man Utd will but its new players but ETH cannot create a good football structure then we'll be disappointed ultimately
Its not about the talent, but his attitude and i am 100% convinced that hes one of the biggest, if not the biggest contributor to the toxic attitude in the dressing room.
Also, despite his talent his performances for us overall are usually complete shit with about 5 good ones each season. Just feck him off and lets be done with this stupid circus
I bet you can't name as many five for each season he's been at OT. I said at the time he resigned that I didn't understand the hype and I haven't changed my mind. The number of times he was bullied by midfielders from mid-table teams seemed staggering to me...
Thats like comparing an apple to an orange.
Hazard was the best player in PL and didn't have as poor of an injury record than he does at RM.
Pogba isn't the best player in the PL and has played 226 in 6 years for United.
Sadly, both
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Since even the board preferred for ETH over Poch and Rangnick was happy too, we have to assume we appointed someone close to the right guy type. Perhaps it wasn't the right choice and it won't me surprise a bit, especially in current club's enviroment.
As for creating good football structure, some players must leave first. Think we can agree on that, but yes, won't be easy and Pogba leaving creates massive creative hole not only in midfield but also for attackers to receive quality pass to finish teams off.
It basically leaves us with Matić, McTom and Pereira and looks like we have to start from scratch, even if Paul somehow stays. Finally a clever scouting that cooperates with no matter who's the manager would definitely help.
You mean Fred because Matic is also leaving, Pereira's contract is also expiring though we apparently have an option.
Yup. Fred will help massively as he can play Pogba's role, but he's just a one guy who can actually do something vs pile of wankery we have in the squad.
ETH will probably fail in his first season and even Pep would fail, there's too many holes to patch on this ship. It's beyond repairing in just one summer while Glazers with the board could definitely get in the way of signing a midfielder, as it was the case previously in few other positions in need of patching.
Yes we can defo on your 2nd paragraph
An offer not withdrawn is still an offer. There's a chance we might get stuck with Pogba for the next 4-5 seasons.
Don't get me wrong...on his day he's brilliant. But how many such days has he performed at his known peak for United in his six seasons? Half dozen at most.
Don't get me wrong...on his day he's brilliant. But how many such days has he performed at his known peak for United in his six seasons? Half dozen at most.
I can't think of anything more nightmarish than seeing Pogba's name in next season's team sheet. Despite all his skill, he is a waste of space (and money).
Not literally nothing though.
We won a league cup and Europa league with Pogba.
I still am hopeful he signs a new contract. Would be good to see him in an ETH set-up.
Hopefully you won’t get your wish. He so lacklustre in his performances that I can’t imagine a worse player for a pressing team, which we surely have to become and is ETH’s style. He’s a liability at CM unless he is surrounded by two world class pressers. I felt his best role would have been as a 10 for us. He’s just a mess playing in a double pivot. Anyway, the wages on offer, the injury record, his obvious lack of effort, can’t wait for him to leave. I don’t wish him ill after he departs, but I also don’t wish him well. I am purely apathetic to what he does. The further away he goes, the better.
Probably 2nd most talented player in the squad with a poor attitude. Losing him for free hurts but his departure is a symbol of everything wrong at this club right now. Poor squad planning, overpaid substandard players, toxic dressing room. ETH has a huge task in hand.
and we won our first PL title with Darren Ferguson!
In a parallel universe Pogba signs a new 3 year performance-based contract (appearances, goals, assists) and completely redeems himself justifying the £89million we spunked on him...........
There are more reasons why we should let him go than stay.
1. He will want over 400k a week - he hasn't even shown why he deserves his current salary at United, so a pay rise is not justified
2. He cannot stay fit for a season - always injured for months every season
3. Terrible attitude - As soon as things go wrong, he wants to leave and not fight
4. His performances are average at best
Just because we are short of numbers, is not a reason to give someone a big contract. Also, why would anyone wait a year to sign him when they can have him for free this year?
We already know we need a CDM, Donny shouldn't be counted yet as he was never played.
I rather get a CDM and CM allowing Pogba to go.
Pogba has missed 2 full seasons worth of games during his time here from injuries. And he is currently injured.
To offer him a mammoth contract is not only outrageous, its excessively irresponsible.
His injury history alone, which only shows signs of increasing given that the player himself is part of the aging process like everyone else, should directly exclude him from any contract talks that puts him in the echelon of "best paid player".
I dont doubt that Pogba himself genuinely tries his best when he is playing, but his body simply cannot be depended upon to be healthy for the majority of a season.
To offer him a mammoth contract is not only outrageous, its excessively irresponsible.
His injury history alone, which only shows signs of increasing given that the player himself is part of the aging process like everyone else, should directly exclude him from any contract talks that puts him in the echelon of "best paid player".
I dont doubt that Pogba himself genuinely tries his best when he is playing, but his body simply cannot be depended upon to be healthy for the majority of a season.
Not a good comparison. Pogba was arguably our best player when we won the Europa League.
He was officially the best player.
I’d be interested to see what ETH does for him but I’m more interested in moving on and starting a fresh with different players and ideas
Honestly, getting rid of Pogba & Lingard are massive silver linings for me at the end of a dreadful season. For different reasons they epitomise how far wrong we've gone since SAF's departure.
I think Murtough has made a promising start to turning us around, and allowing Pogba to take his circus and leave will be another baby step towards recovery.
Also - Let's please never touch another Raiola client again yeah?
I think Murtough has made a promising start to turning us around, and allowing Pogba to take his circus and leave will be another baby step towards recovery.
Also - Let's please never touch another Raiola client again yeah?
100%, it still annoys me to think of when he made those Pogba comments just before a massive Champion league game last year. Is Lingard still with Raiola too or was that only a brief association ? I think after Paul leaves we don't have any of his players left.
I was in this camp until the last couple of months where his performance just haven't warranted a big new deal which Raiola will push for. I also feel he's peaked physically, combine that with injuries and it's just not worth the high wages.
When he returned from injury (around February time) and was in brilliant form I was still hopeful he'd stay - one of, if not our best player when on form IMO.
I am certainly in the minority but I will remember him as a good player for us. I don't buy into the whole "he's only played well for 3/4 games" - it feels like whenever he has a good game the narrative is "if only he did this every week". Perhaps not living up to the fee / expectation but never truly given a platform and structure to excel in on a consistent basis.
The only periods in the post-Ferguson era where we've been in genuine title contending form (start of Jose 2nd season, when Ole took over until end of 18/19 season, last season until Feb, even post lockdown ) Pogba has been the main / best performing player, most of these were periods where we had a settled midfield and DM partner in Matic - just feels like it could and should have been so much better though!
And statistically! So not much of an argument to be fair
Such an insult that was, and sums up his mercenary, feck everybody else attitude.
Agents are what they are, but that guy is beyond. Poisonous.
Yes I think pogbas our last link to the twat.
I feel like if Salah or Mane left Liverpool without them getting any transfer fee, they would be pretty widely hated and criticised by both club and fans.
Pogba has been getting criticised, but only for his godawful performances, not for the shittiness of leaving the club without them getting a fee.
Feels like him and Lingard should be getting more of a doing over this to be honest. The clubs paid them tens of millions over the years + trained them since youth/given them opportunities.
Pogba has been getting criticised, but only for his godawful performances, not for the shittiness of leaving the club without them getting a fee.
Feels like him and Lingard should be getting more of a doing over this to be honest. The clubs paid them tens of millions over the years + trained them since youth/given them opportunities.
I think Pogba's battles with the club in the media without the club saying boo to him over the years have paved the way for Rashford PR to do the same
Salah and Mane weren’t record signings either. Pogba adds further insult since this would be the second time he’s left.
But in all honesty this is all on the board. The fact we have half a dozen or so first team players leaving on a free this summer is disgracefully incompetent.
So what you're upset about is that he's not getting enough stick??
Christ where have you been living under
Still slightly nervous every time this is bumped
POGBA TO STAY IN NEW 600K A WEEK 6 YEAR DEAL
POGBA TO STAY IN NEW 600K A WEEK 6 YEAR DEAL
If it happens now we'll blame youStill slightly nervous every time this is bumped
POGBA TO STAY IN NEW 600K A WEEK 6 YEAR DEAL
Thats pretty much been his level since he got here. EL. We needed him to step up and start running games for us. Entering his prime he could and should have hit beast mode trying to get us back to the top given what we’ve been paying him and how gifted he is and how lofty his ambitions seem to be. Meanwhile Pogba shrugs shoulders and talks about leaving. He’s nice guy goof ball in a team and club that needs more leaders and far more drive and he can’t stay fit to save his life. Thank god its nearly over.
So sad that this guy is going to leave and I will have more fond memories of Marouanne Fellaini than Pogba.
Amazing talent but not got the drive to lift an underperforming team. Just want him to go know, thanks for the brief moments of brilliance but it is time to part ways.
Amazing talent but not got the drive to lift an underperforming team. Just want him to go know, thanks for the brief moments of brilliance but it is time to part ways.
Ive been ambivalent at best towards Pogba since he signed, but at the start of this season after that performance against leeds I was firmly Pogba in for the first time. Buuuuuut reality soon reigned and the lacklustre performances, and silly mistakes soon came back. It just best for all concerned if he goes.