Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.

davidmichael said:

Has Dembele signed a new deal with Barca yet ? Surely it we’re concerned about our transfer budget then Dembele on a free makes sense, didn’t Barca offer £100K a week ? Surely if we offered £150K a week more that’d be our right side sorted ?

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Yes he has signed a new contract.

This is dead for now; I can't see us affording that kind of fee. Ajax inflated the fee for Martinez and then increased it on top of that, they're going to go to further lengths for Antony.

tenpoless said:

I hope he wont be another "right winger" than ends up playing on the left for us.

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Antony would be a big advantage to us, plenty of goals and assists.

pcaming said:

This is dead for now; I can't see us affording that kind of fee. Ajax inflated the fee for Martinez and then increased it on top of that, they're going to go to further lengths for Antony.

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We need some forward, a RW and a CF. We need to get rid of some players to get monies in.

Joeycha88 said:

Good sign for us if they are looking at replacements

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Not really, they stated he would be behind Antony until he eventually goes. Antony still isn't for sale(unless the high asking price is met)

If we'll be playing Rashford left and Sancho right (which should have been a no brainer last seson) we dont need Antony anyway. We definitely need a right back though.

I’m sure Antony will be a throwing a strop when he sees Martinez leaves his club for us

This one might be for next summer then.

DevilRed said:

This one might be for next summer then.

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Yup Ronaldo looks like staying after he realises no one wants him so a forward should be a priority next summer

Antony would have been good because he knows how to hold the width and compliment Dalot who is decent as a full back that tucks in. If we can't get Antony then I'd use the money on an attacking right back. So Sancho now tucks in and the new RB holds the width. Haven't seen much of Lamptey but if he's worth the hype then he'd be my pick. There are very few proven quality right back right now

jamesjimmybyrondean said:

Antony would have been good because he knows how to hold the width and compliment Dalot who is decent as a full back that tucks in. If we can't get Antony then I'd use the money on an attacking right back. So Sancho now tucks in and the new RB holds the width. Haven't seen much of Lamptey but if he's worth the hype then he'd be my pick. There are very few proven quality right back right now

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Yeah if we don't get a RW (looking unlikely at the moment) then definitely have to bring in an attacking RB

No reports of this one being dead. Just gone quiet, which to me suggests things are happening. Just my take on it.

croadyman said:

Staying at Barca isn't he?

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wiki telling me hes a free one at the minute, still a chance. Be a strange one for Barca to sign Raphinha and then give Dembele a contract

SATA said:

Yup Ronaldo looks like staying after he realises no one wants him so a forward should be a priority next summer

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Eth clearly said the other day that he wants another attacker

Would be weird if the deal isn't being talked about during the Martinez negotiations.

Someone said:

Would be weird if the deal isn't being talked about during the Martinez negotiations.

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I have a strong feeling that they have. And probably have a tough agreement in place

I think we’ll see Ajax sign some players and United sell some players in the coming weeks and then Antony to United will resurface sometime in August from an already advanced position

LawCharltonBest said:

I have a strong feeling that they have. And probably have a tough agreement in place

I think we’ll see Ajax sign some players and United sell some players in the coming weeks and then Antony to United will resurface sometime in August from an already advanced position

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Yup. Antony has seen Ajax lose numerous starters and a manager he loves this summer and his main World Cup rival move to Barcelona. He’s 22 and has quite clearly outgrown the Dutch League - one of the biggest clubs on the planet want to sign him and make him a key part of the project under a manager he trusts - like feck is he not pushing vehemently for a move.

Mickeza said:

Yup. Antony has seen Ajax lose numerous starters and a manager he loves this summer and his main World Cup rival move to Barcelona. He’s 22 and has quite clearly outgrown the Dutch League - one of the biggest clubs on the planet want to sign him and make him a key part of the project under a manager he trusts - like feck is he not pushing vehemently for a move.

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If that’s the case we should give them Amad on loan as part of the deal.

Bwuk said:

If that’s the case we should give them Amad on loan as part of the deal.

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Ajax won’t develop our youngsters for us.

We dont do loans anymore guys.

Scholsey2004 said:

If we'll be playing Rashford left and Sancho right (which should have been a no brainer last seson) we dont need Antony anyway. We definitely need a right back though.

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We really do need Antony right now our options upfront in potentially a 60 game season are Currently Martial, Rashford, Sancho and Maybe Ronaldo. There is a new 5 sub rule in the PL and 9 named subs , currently we have weaker options from the bench than teams like Villa, Leicester, Arsenal, Spurs, and probably West Ham in midfield and attack after this window has ended, we need. 2 in asap up top as united need 6 players competing for 3 attacking positions rather than 7 Centre backs competing for 2 positions, our squad is the most unbalanced in the PL and we need 2 more in the midfield area too.

Three weeks to go before the season starts and we are scrambling around signing a back up left back, a 5’8 CB whose never played in PL for £46M while some relatively reasonable free Transfers like Dybala, Eriksen, Isco, Belotti are available. I like the Manager but he must be as frustrated as the fans on just how poor we are at doing transfers. He might have 3 more players in before August probably one or 2 weeks before and then we will moan when we pick up 8 points from the first 5 or 6 game because he didn’t have enough time to let the players settle in.

Right now if we are marking the transfer business for the Top 6 out of 10 ;

Man City - 9/10
In Haland, Phillips , S OrtegaJ Alvarez Gross 110M
Out Stirling, G Bazuna, R Lavia Jesus £125M
Net - £15M

Liverpool - 7.5/10
IN - D Nunez, C Ramsey, F Calvalho - 96M
Out - T Minimino, S Mane - 52M
Net £44M

Spurs - 8/10
IN - Y Bussouma, I Perisic, F Forster, Ricarlson, C Lengelet - £100M
Out S Bergwyn, J Clarke, C Carter bickers - £35M
Net £65M

Arsenal 7/10
Incoming - F Veira, M Turner, Marquinhos, Jesus £90M
Outgoings - lacazette, Ballard, Gwendouzi, Kostantinois - £20M
Net £70M

Chelsea 5.5/10
Incoming - Sterling, Koulibaly- £80m
Outgoing- Lukaku, Rudiger, Christensen , Drinkwater , J Clarke Salter - 5M loan fee
Net £75M

Man United 3/10
Incoming- T Malacia, hopefully, C Eriksen , L Martinez - £60M

Outgoing - A Pereira, Pogba, Mata, Matic, Cavani, L Grant, J Lingard, D Henderson - £10M
Net £50M

We have a lot to do and we need to do it in the next 7 days to give ETH the best chance to succeed

There is no reason ETH can’t transform Pellistri and Amad into useful starters within two years. It only makes sense if Antony costs less than 30m for us to sign him at his current level.

Amad needs regular football so he should be going on loan, he's nowhere near ready. Pellistri looks interesting and I wouldn't mind keeping him until January but there's no way we can rely on him. Elanga for me isn't really good enough, not yet at least, and should probably be loaned out but with the lack of options, I understand why we'd keep him.

We desperately need another attacker and I'm not sure who we will sign but I'm certain we will sign one. We probably need two attackers but I'd be content with one for now. Unfortuantely I highly doubt we will be able to sign Antony anymore.

Sancho/Pellistri (Elanga)
Antony/Rashford

Far from the strongest options out wide in the league but it might have to do until January. I think we would really look at Gnabry too. We also need Rashford to step it up a level.

city-puma said:

There is no reason ETH can’t transform Pellistri and Amad into useful starters within two years. It only makes sense if Antony costs less than 30m for us to sign him at his current level.

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I think Pellistri is worth a go in the squad now but consider this. Ronaldo leaves we have Sancho injured in first game and we are playing Liverpool game 3 in PL.

We start with D De Gea, D Dalot, R Varane, H Maguire, L Shaw, * L Martinez, *FDJ, Elanga, Martial, Rashford
Subs (9), T Heaton, T Malacia, E Baily , V Lindelof, Fred, Mctominay,* C Eriksen Pellistri, A Garnaucho

Liverpool start with Alison, TAA, VVD, Konate, A Robertson, Fabinho, Tiago, Henderson, Salah, Nunez, Diaz
Subs(9) Adrian, Matip, J Gomez, J Milner, N Keita, D Jota, Firminho, F carvalho, H Elliot

We go 1-0 down whose going to come off the bench and change the game our squad is unbalanced and does not have enough attacking options compared to the previous two seasons, No Pogba, No Cavani, No Greenwood, No Mata, No Lingard whatever we thought of these players they represented infinitely better options than what we currently have and more importantly this season with the five sub rule, teams like City will have any 4 from 5 like Gundogan, Grealish, Alvarez, L delap to come off the bench and break the PL goal scoring record after starting with B Silva, KDB, Mahrez, Haland snd Fodden most games. What’s sad is Pep, Conte, Tuchal and Klopp are still looking to sign attacking players.

DevilRed said:

This one might be for next summer then.

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I think it would probably be sensible to give it until at least Christmas to see if we actually need a right winger. The last 2 managers seemed unwilling to play Sancho there, this one seems more willing. Theres no point spending pot loads of money when we may well only need a backup, and one of the youngsters may rise to the task in the meantime. IMO if we get Martinez, sort midfield and get a good right back then thats a good window for us, presuming Ronaldo doesnt leave.

I doubt we're getting him.

We'll go with Ronaldo, Rashford, Sancho, Martial, Elanga, Pellistri/Amad(other going on loan) and we'll sign someone else instead of Antony. Probably in the 30-40m range or Dybala/Belotti.

Antony pantomime.

Woziak said:

I think Pellistri is worth a go in the squad now but consider this. Ronaldo leaves we have Sancho injured in first game and we are playing Liverpool game 3 in PL.

We start with D De Gea, D Dalot, R Varane, H Maguire, L Shaw, * L Martinez, *FDJ, Elanga, Martial, Rashford
Subs (9), T Heaton, T Malacia, E Baily , V Lindelof, Fred, Mctominay,* C Eriksen Pellistri, A Garnaucho

Liverpool start with Alison, TAA, VVD, Konate, A Robertson, Fabinho, Tiago, Henderson, Salah, Nunez, Diaz
Subs(9) Adrian, Matip, J Gomez, J Milner, N Keita, D Jota, Firminho, F carvalho, H Elliot

We go 1-0 down whose going to come off the bench and change the game our squad is unbalanced and does not have enough attacking options compared to the previous two seasons, No Pogba, No Cavani, No Greenwood, No Mata, No Lingard whatever we thought of these players they represented infinitely better options than what we currently have and more importantly this season with the five sub rule, teams like City will have any 4 from 5 like Gundogan, Grealish, Alvarez, L delap to come off the bench and break the PL goal scoring record after starting with B Silva, KDB, Mahrez, Haland snd Fodden most games. What’s sad is Pep, Conte, Tuchal and Klopp are still looking to sign attacking players.

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With or without Antony, it won’t be critical factor against Liverpool. The goal is to construct and develop the team. Injuries here and there are always parts of the games. Everyone has to cope with it. It’s a season, individual game is part of it.
Antony played in Ajax for two seasons and is 22 now. He becomes a hot asset. I really like him but the ask price is way over the top. No one knows how long he can adapt to EPL. It’s a big risk. Many underestimate the physical part of EPL. The nature is due to EPL referees. They tolerate more physical contest than in continental football world.

AbusementPark said:

Think this transfer didnt really exist in the first place, especially for the quoted sums. Would rather have a pop for Dembele on a free and try and get a good 20 games a season from him with Pellistri and Diallo as backups.

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Dembele ain’t happening. He’s just signed a new contract at Barca.

city-puma said:

With or without Antony, it won’t be critical factor against Liverpool. The goal is to construct and develop the team. Injuries here and there are always parts of the games. Everyone has to cope with it. It’s a season, individual game is part of it.
Antony played in Ajax for two seasons and is 22 now. He becomes a hot asset. I really like him but the ask price is way over the top. No one knows how long he can adapt to EPL. It’s a big risk. Many underestimate the physical part of EPL. The nature is due to EPL referees. They tolerate more physical contest than in continental football world.

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We should be sending Amad on loan plus €55M + 15M max but he could be €100m after WC so I would do the deal

Antony or not, I reckon we will definitely sign another forward. For one, as someone mentioned above, ETH mentioned it in the presser. Also, even with Ronaldo staying, we only have 4 senior players for our 3 forward positions. Most top teams in the league have two senior players for each forward position. Going into the season as we are would be lunacy.

FrankWhite said:

Antony or not, I reckon we will definitely sign another forward. For one, as someone mentioned above, ETH mentioned it in the presser. Also, even with Ronaldo staying, we only have 4 senior players for our 3 forward positions. Most top teams in the league have two senior players for each forward position. Going into the season as we are would be lunacy.

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True.

We Need Anthony simply because we'd be mad to entrust our season to martial and rashford alone. Even if cr7 stayed. Most especially not after losing he who must not be named. You don't wanna be needing Garnacho, Elanga then Pellistri/Amad or say Chong having to bail us out then

AbusementPark said:

wiki telling me hes a free one at the minute, still a chance. Be a strange one for Barca to sign Raphinha and then give Dembele a contract

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Torres....aubamyang...fati... raphina... depay

And still linked with lewendowski

Hard to imagine them keeping dembele as well

More likely they sell depay than renew dembele

If Amad goes on loan then we'll be left with only Sancho who is comfortable on the right hand side and as ETH indicated in his presser, there are more options on the left hand side and he wants balance.

It may not be Antony given the price but get the impression that getting someone else that can play on the right will be important as you don't want to be reliant on Sancho being fit and in form all the time for that position. Another option for the right also means Sancho can play on the left if needed too.

If he proves to be a world-beater this season then we'll happily pay the inflated fee Ajax has requested. Win-win.

roseguy64 said:

I doubt we're getting him.

We'll go with Ronaldo, Rashford, Sancho, Martial, Elanga, Pellistri/Amad(other going on loan) and we'll sign someone else instead of Antony. Probably in the 30-40m range or Dybala/Belotti.

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Dybala and Belotti are Free Transfers we should be picking up both.

city-puma said:

With or without Antony, it won’t be critical factor against Liverpool. The goal is to construct and develop the team. Injuries here and there are always parts of the games. Everyone has to cope with it. It’s a season, individual game is part of it.
Antony played in Ajax for two seasons and is 22 now. He becomes a hot asset. I really like him but the ask price is way over the top. No one knows how long he can adapt to EPL. It’s a big risk. Many underestimate the physical part of EPL. The nature is due to EPL referees. They tolerate more physical contest than in continental football world.

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He’s 22, pacey, Tricky, familiar with ETH methods but well overpriced, so is L Martinez, we should be paying £85M (35+50)max for both. I don’t condone wasteful spending but it’s not my money or yours and who ever the next owner of United is, Hopefully very soon will have to pay off £500M debt.

I’m staggered that our Director of Football can not explain to Edwin and Ajax DOF that we would like both players, 35+10 For LM and 50+15 for Antony. We think this reflect a fair price in a market which as seen Raheem Sterling(26) , a more experienced and more proven player who has scored 15/20 in the PL for the last 5 seasons go for under £50M, why do you think Antony is worth more than a genuine Top 20 elite player in world Football when Antony has yet to prove himself in the PL. Let’s face it we just can’t negotiate in the transfer market, it’s like we have to win the race by throwing money at it in fees or wages, and that worked out so well in Alexis Sanchez, Pogba and Maguire case, One day we will learn. I just see L Martinez as a complete waste of Money but using that money for Antony plus £15M as a good investment for a 22 year old.

sun_tzu said:

Torres....aubamyang...fati... raphina... depay

And still linked with lewendowski

Hard to imagine them keeping dembele as well

More likely they sell depay than renew dembele

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dembele signed a new contract. DePay seems most likely to go. Not sure who to though

Woziak said:

Dybala and Belotti are Free Transfers we should be picking up both.

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dybala isn’t free, he comes with a big sign on fee and massive wages, isn’t all that good and can’t play wide.