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An online lip reader could only confirm the word began with R third letter was certainly p and ended in ist so the word could have been anything really.


We will never know for sure
Maybe he was talking about the ripest oranges in Madrid
 

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Saw this video, noticed how he didn't even bother to cover his mouth like players normally do now.

But, he definitely said something to Greenwood on the football pitch.
 

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How is it possible to call a man for rapist when it was not possible for the court to find him guilty? Aha, Bellingham knows better. Clown
 

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Lovely to see a thread where the average age of posters is under 12 going by the posts.
 

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How is it possible to call a man for rapist when it was not possible for the court to find him guilty? Aha, Bellingham knows better. Clown
UK has some of the most hilariously permissive and out of date laws regarding SA actually. Check the rate of conviction for SA cases between UK and other eurpean countries. In the UK you can rape 8 different people, with enough proof to get a conviction and a long prison sentence in any other european country, and get away with it

Also in his case it wasn't a matter of lack of proof, his partner decided to stop pursuing the case and stay with him anyways. Which is horrifying, but not surprising or uncommon, unfortunately
 

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Has no one told Bellingham that Greenwood has not actually been found guilty? Or that he must see how Greenwood's partner has forgiven him and moved on, and hence move on himself from any alleged wrongdoing as well?

He is a midfielder who plays many roles, surely Bellingham must know about possible role-play?
 

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I'm actually flabbergasted this (non) event became such a big deal.
Guys it's football and throwing some words to you opponents to rattle him, has been common since I know the game.

How would have been the reaction, if Bellingham had said the word to another Getafe player? Probably nobody would have even risen an eyelid.
 

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I'm actually flabbergasted this (non) event became such a big deal.
Guys it's football and throwing some words to you opponents to rattle him, has been common since I know the game.

How would have been the reaction, if Bellingham had said the word to another Getafe player? Probably nobody would have even risen an eyelid.
But you can see the difference between Bellingham saying it to somebody that's been accused of attempted rape and saying it to a random player, can't you?
 

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Considering this I don't really think Bellingham wants Greenwood to be his teammate. Also quite on the contrary I expect Bellingham to be more informed/interested in the case exactly because he is English as well, while I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Spanish/other non English players are not that involved in the whole Greenwood topic.
Also they are not teammates. Southgate is not picking a player for multiple reasons.

Generally people don't like working with known rapists.
 

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No one knows if Greenwood has raped anything. In fact, there is not even a trial against him. Therefore, Bellingham is completely wrong on that one and deserves a penalty. We cannot let social media and fan forums be the courts.
 

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But you can see the difference between Bellingham saying it to somebody that's been accused of attempted rape and saying it to a random player, can't you?
Which is worse then? Calling out a guy who actually did it or just throwing the word at some random guy?
 

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It just shows what a thin skinned little sap that Greenwood is if he’s ran to complain about this.
He’d be getting it a lot worse every week in the premier league, he wouldn’t last 6 months.
 

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No one knows if Greenwood has raped anything. In fact, there is not even a trial against him.
The evidence from the video clips is damning.There only isn't a trial, because the main witness withdraw her accusation.

This doesn't make Greenwood a better person. He just got away with it but marrying the victim.
 

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Which is worse then? Calling out a guy who actually did it or just throwing the word at some random guy?
But what I'm saying is it's obvious why everyone is making a fuss about it: because greenwood was charged with attempted rape. Whereas if it was thrown around at someone else without that history, it wouldn't be picked up in the same way it has been because there wouldn't be that backstory.
 

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The evidence from the video clips is damning.There only isn't a trial, because the main witness withdraw her accusation.

This doesn't make Greenwood a better person. He just got away with it but marrying the victim.
Well said
 

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It just shows what a thin skinned little sap that Greenwood is if he’s ran to complain about this.
He’d be getting it a lot worse every week in the premier league, he wouldn’t last 6 months.
He probably does get it every week in Spain and doesn't understand it. He should stay in Spain. Hopefully we sell and get a bit of money.
 

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The evidence from the video clips is damning.There only isn't a trial, because the main witness withdraw her accusation.

This doesn't make Greenwood a better person. He just got away with it but marrying the victim.
Exactly and should be the view of everyone.

There are far too many in here either 1) ignoring it because he’s contracted to Man Utd or 2) rape sympathisers.

What he done is literally for the world to hear. The guy is vile.

Well played Bellingham.
 

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But what I'm saying is it's obvious why everyone is making a fuss about it: because greenwood was charged with attempted rape.
For me this is actually pretty weird. Greenwood might have got away with on legal viewpoint but morally he is definitely be guilty of it.

So how can it be, if somebody calls i.e. a known liar a liar is causing more fuss than if he would have just called a random person a liar?

You can argue it isn't appropriate to do what Bellingham did (I agree on that) but after all he just said what everybody thinks and knows anyway.

It's like calling a spade a spade is worse than calling somebody something he isn't.
 

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The evidence from the video clips is damning.There only isn't a trial, because the main witness withdraw her accusation.

This doesn't make Greenwood a better person. He just got away with it but marrying the victim.
How do you know that?
 

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Could be true what Bellingham called Mason but it doesn't give him the right to call him that.
Overpaid spoilt brats.
 

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For me this is actually pretty weird. Greenwood might have got away with on legal viewpoint but morally he is definitely be guilty of it.

So how can it be, if somebody calls i.e. a known liar a liar is causing more fuss than if he would have just called a random person a liar?

You can argue it isn't appropriate to do what Bellingham did (I agree on that) but after all he just said what everybody thinks and knows anyway.

It's like calling a spade a spade is worse than calling somebody something he isn't.
It caused more fuss because there's already so much noise around the Greenwood situation. So it added fuel to the fire. I agree with your suspicions around Greenwood's guilt btw.
 

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For me this is actually pretty weird. Greenwood might have got away with on legal viewpoint but morally he is definitely be guilty of it.

So how can it be, if somebody calls i.e. a known liar a liar is causing more fuss than if he would have just called a random person a liar?

You can argue it isn't appropriate to do what Bellingham did (I agree on that) but after all he just said what everybody thinks and knows anyway.

It's like calling a spade a spade is worse than calling somebody something he isn't.
Posts that feel racist...
 

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The evidence from the video clips is damning.There only isn't a trial, because the main witness withdraw her accusation.

This doesn't make Greenwood a better person. He just got away with it but marrying the victim.
You don't know anything about the case except for the short clip, which is supposedly a snippet of a larger clip. Furthermore, we know that if witnesses withdraw, the court, if the evidence (the audioclip) clearly shows a violation, will proceed without the witness. Since the court has assessed that it cannot proceed without the witness, it must be because the objective evidence has been weak. Moreover, the objective evidence is the audio recording that we have all heard. If the court cannot convict based on that recording, why can we?
 
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Nonsense is a strange, dismissive word to use.
In a thread about Jude Bellingham's as a player at Real Madrid, debating on the merits and morality of whether he did or did not call M.G a 'S.Aist' or not and whether M.G. is or not is of zero relevance. There is a whole thread dedicated to the topic of the M.G question and the morality surrounding it.
 

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In a thread about Jude Bellingham's as a player at Real Madrid, debating on the merits and morality of whether he did or did not call M.G a 'S.Aist' or not and whether M.G. is or not is of zero relevance. There is a whole thread dedicated to the topic of the M.G question and the morality surrounding it.
It's strange to see such a maligned topic take over an unrelated thread with very little push back tbh, but I'm kinda confused about current redcafe anyway...
 

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If he indeed did it, he’s got my respect.