I think he'll look towards retirement or managing a national side after his stint with Madrid is over.
Who replaces Ten Hag?
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Interim is not really to salvage the season. It gives INEOS the time to sort out the things above the manager. Get the recruitments, plan and style to be implemented. No point in hiring a manager and then trying to implement a style that he is not comfortable with. As SJR mentioned, we have already tried lot of managerial changes, some winners. But it hasn't worked because things above the manager are not well.
Edit: We could as well keep ETH, if INEOS can ignore the moans from fans and the media, week in week out as ETH messes things.
And he’s probably wiser staying away from United , we haven’t done anybody’s legacy good anytime in the last 11 years
suffers from interimitis
do not get an interim, we aren't getting top 4. keep ETH till end of season, and if we're not in UCL spot, let him go but make sure plenty are sent packing with him
keep
- Garnacho
- hojlund
- Mainoo
- Amad
- Dalot
- Martinez
- AWB (final straw)
- Malacia (on final straw)
Rest can go to get some transfer fees in (i know we wont get rid of all others but they are all sellable)
Well hopefully the next manager wont be allowed to shop like ETH was. I hope the new board listen to the manager and understands his playing style and then goes and scouts players which fir the profile - hopefully more than 1-2 big names.
Allowing a manager to name drop players has gotten us players like Antony and Onana
I'm talking long-term, to be clear.
Or, with regard to next season, at least.
Not actually sacking him here and now may be the right call (from the new management's perspective) for several reasons, including purely financial ones.
The rebuild I'm talking about won't be done quickly. It will take time, and quite possibly longer than many fans are comfortable with.
So you would keep 8 players from a 24 man squad, 4 of which struggle with injuries and have a winger who can’t even get into the match day squad. Makes sense.
Rúben Amorim
We need someone with charisma. Who can connect with players.
Ten Hag comes across like a school teacher. That may have worked with the kids at Ajax, its is not working at United.
We need someone with charisma. Who can connect with players.
Ten Hag comes across like a school teacher. That may have worked with the kids at Ajax, its is not working at United.
Well he did take the everton job and had he retired there and then we'd all say he'd been washed up so who knows.
At this point who is the real "connection" issue from? Marcus? I know he's been poor this season and sometimes doesn't seem to put in a shift, but i don't the think the players have abandoned ETH, I think they are simply not good enough. Main issue is quality of the squad, and if we're getting in proper recruitment people, i think that will improve greatly over the next couple of years
Only Nagelman should be sounded out as a replacement.
Yeah i think he has a real style and philosophy. Seems like Bayern were too quick to sack him. Then they got Tuchel and will sack him too. Seems like the Bayern team is a bit weaker than normal.
It isn't. Tuchel was just never the right man to take over a Nagelsmann built and trained team. If Bayern can convince Xabi Alonso. They'd have got closer to a bonfide Nagelsmann replacement.
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I agree. Hope we are at it.
Don't know if this has been mentioned and not that I want to be City Lite or anything but Berrada must be aware of City's Pep replacement list so maybe an overlooked theory would be they might look at those on that list for next manager
I agree but it seems like he'll stay there for the Euros atleast. If we delay too long he may be too focused on the Euros to do any real homework about us / provide suggestions as to what type of players he wants in the summer etc. The ideal for me is he manages Germany for the Euros, they get knocked out early and he joins us soon after.
Klopp signs up to manage Germany for the world cup.
How strong is the French connection between blanc and Zidane?
I don't mind the idea of Nagelsmann, but why only him? I don't get why posters are saying "nobody except Enrique or Zidane" or "only Nagelsmann". Based on what exactly? There's many managers that are as good or potentially better (Zidane is a grey area due to sample size and team managed).
He’s a young player who has looked great with good underlying stats and a great work ethic.
Martinez is one of the best CBs in the PL.
What about those managers appeal to you over Ten Hag. What qualities do they have you think Ten Hag doesnt?
No break just yet I’m trying to understand you.
So you’re firmly in the Ten Hag doesn’t deserve a chance under a new structure a completely fresh and clean slate is needed?
So regardless of Ten Hag’s quality relative to other candidates is it more important for someone else to try it who just isn’t Ten Hag?
Id counter that with name me any top club aiming for Top 4/winning their league without footballing structure @AFC NimbleThumb you’re confusing an excuse with an explanation.
I think it’s reasonable to believe some other manager may have done better but history would suggest at a club like United it’s unlikely. We have a history of managers failing.
I can understand why some want him gone. I’m not particularly attached to him myself and would fully trust INEOS to make the right decision end of season about the manager.
I guess we agree on most things then I just happen to think the club is far more rotten than the manager is then?
The irony of you laughing and mocking someone for having emotional intelligence isn’t lost on me here.Potter is a complete bullshit merchant. Guy has a masters in Emotional Intelligence for feck sake
Vibes FC with added pseudoscience veneer.
One major problem in hiring a new manager is how the players react.
They clearly wanted Ole shipped off and when Rangnick sailed into port, they abandoned ship.
Who the heck was Ralf Rangnick and his crazy American trainers? One of them was openly referred to as a character from Ted Lasso. Frankly embarrassing.
EtH did exceptionally well to identity this after an awful start - removing Maguire first as captain, then from the first team. No more McTom. Ronaldo's egotism was quickly obviated, also.
Any new manager would need to command instant respect or behave similarly to EtH in the crepuscular moments of their reign.
Please, do not posit faith in 'Big Jim' and his Ineos posse stamping out insubordination, either. Players get paid whatever the weather and as Maguire proved in the summer, the ball is in their court.
I think Ratcliffe's quote about walking to the right solutions rather than running to the wrong ones was quite telling. I would've sacked Ten Hag in September or October if it was up to me but Ten Hag clearly benefitted from the previous regime being reluctant to make a decision and the new regime wanting time to assess the situation. We've left it too late to bother now, regardless. We're 11 points off Villa with 11 games to go so our bed is made.
The focus should shift to getting an appropriate replacement in the summer now. It would be a massive contradiction to the marginal gains mantra perpetuated by Brailsford and co. if Ten Hag was left in situ beyond the end of the season. There aren't any redeeming qualities with his style of play or the results he's producing. We need to clear out a lot of the players too, but it's a lot easier to start by replacing the coach than it is to replace an entire squad of players.
I will try to explain my stance below:
He has won the league title (not fluked like Tuchel) before in a top 5 league. None of the others linked save Zidane can say so.
His prefferred style of play is closest to what ETH has done before and is trying to do.
He will ensure no radical change of footballing direction. Just better consistent movement in current direction.
He is young. He works out you can get a decade plus from him. He is also schooled in working under recruitment departments that decide who is signed to play for him.
As a coach he is the only out there apart from Zidane who has proven tactical versatility straight from the Ancelotti school of coaching. He will always have an answer to personnel challenges. He has proven in previous jobs he can make the best of personnel he is given. Which will suit us since we may not be able to do a full scale clear out rapidly. Most modern coaches are wedded to a plan A shape so wheels can fall off if they run into personnel problems. He isn't.
He is known for developing players and blooding youth. We have exciting youth in the pipeline.
He coaches some of the best pressing tactics in all of europe. His teams are thus front footed and brave.
Above all he IS available this summer. His current job only last till the end of the EUROs. So no compensation fee.
It is no longer an either or situation. Good amount of players need to go. We can't dump the same players on the next manager and ask him to do magic.
I agree, but unfortunately we won't replace the number of players we need to, new owners or not.
Thanks bro.
Appointing a manager on an interim basis is the worst of all next steps that could be taken. We're not going to bring in a manager an on interim basis who's better suited to the task of closing out the season with some respectability than ETH himself. I doubt even Ole would be interested in the job.
If we're going to sack ETH and if we have a manager who is at the ready right now, let's rip the bandage right now and get this done. If we don't have the right manager at the ready right now, there is no man or woman who would be qualified to handle the job who would be willing to take the job on an interim basis. There is Jose but do we really want Jose back at OT at all and would he be willing to take the job on an interim basis? I doubt the answer is yes to either.
So keep ETH and ignore any fan/media outrage till they can get the manager they want.
I'd take the kitchen door at this point, it wouldn't do any worse. Don't need this prat hanging around like a bad smell. Get him out and start now with the rebuild instead of in a few months. Every day he's still here is another day wasted imo and how do you start to change everything with him still here sticking his nose in 
Amorim will be too expensive as Sporting will want double what they paid to get him so I see that as very unlikely. Maybe someone like Luis Enrique would be tempted but De Zerbi, Potter and maybe Nagelsmann are probably being tapped up already.
Get Dan Ashworth in then him and Berrada together with INEOS can decide upon ETH or a replacement that fits with the style of play they are going for.
We should be dominating every single game, competing with City just as Liverpool did.
We should be dominating every single game, competing with City just as Liverpool did.
And yet still people back ETH. Give him another season he might come good. Do you people watch the team he puts out? It’s beyond a joke. After nearly 2 years what has he got right? £400m later and our team has more holes than he started with. The man who said he’d get Rashford firing. Look how that’s turned out. Massive clear out needed and it starts with the manager he’s not a Top4 manager never mind a Manchester United level manager.
Amorim has a well stated release clause btw. Though Sporting will be devastated if / When he leaves in the summer.
Amorim has a well stated release clause btw. Though Sporting will be devastated if / When he leaves in the summer.
Why people are mentioning Nagelsmann? Isn’t he the Germany manager? Is he leaving after the Euros?
Its a shame so many are injured, id like to have seen a team with Martinez shaw hojlund Casamiro varane etc all fit at once For a long run of games. As it is theres constantly 7-8 key players out for long periods of time and the holes do look gaping.
Yup injuries have been terrible. Maybe a Rollover from the Winter WC etc. but our summer spend was criminal. The holes were still there. ETH was not the only culprit there be at his own demand he had a big say on ins and outs. He just doesn’t seem able to build a squad. Maybe Overmars was more instrumental at Ajax than we thought. He certainly provided the players. Us like most of the league watched the Top Scorer from the championship goto Lisbon for example and look how that’s turned out yet we were crying out for 2 strikers in the summer. Martial been a bust for years.
Conte seems like the obvious choice for remainder of season, we are not going to get top four. We need two new center mids and a winger.
imagine him seen Rashford jogging, be on the bench after a game.
imagine him seen Rashford jogging, be on the bench after a game.
Here is a video on his tactics, this was posted earlier in the thread. He's my preferred choice, man has a set of ta tactics he's uses and isn't afraid to make adjustments although I doubt this side is capable enough of doing what he needs.
Has to Inzaghi. He has the pedigree and a fiery personality, and is at the top of his game. I'm fed up of managers with zero charisma.
Would rather have Mourinho back than appoint Potter, but considering how much Ashworth bangs on about communication, it is probably going to be Potter.
Would rather have Mourinho back than appoint Potter, but considering how much Ashworth bangs on about communication, it is probably going to be Potter.
I think we could easily hire him to takeover post Euros and just sound him out on potential signings that we might make before.
Truthfully he shouldn’t have any say in who stays because we’ll keep the obvious ones and as a club need to make the harder decisions ourselves on Rashford/Bruno etc.
Italy has more EPL winning managers than any other country. Decent place to look.
He'd be a ballsy punt. Does he speak any English?