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BelfastRed2021

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Scapegoating. He did OK playing out of position. I'd like to see who else was supposed to do better at left back against Foden. Amrabat would have been destroyed as would any other CB. Fodens goal was just a good goal. He was already inside. Not like he was on the wing. If lindelof let him get to the side of him he would have been more fkd.
Absolute nonsense post i suggest you watch it again and stop putting up with mediocre defending. And what could have been worse than Foden scoring by trying to show him on the outside considering he scored what a nonsense post.
 

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An absolute weak minded terrible player i dont care if hes playing out of position atleast 5 times he aimlessly kicked the ball from left side across middle of pitch to nobody in the danger area which could have cost us several times and the attempt at stopping Foden for his first goal was a joke we could all see what was coming ive seen snails moving quicker how this guy is still here after 7 years is beyond me another player who epitomises our decline.
 

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I blame him for not doing defensive basics for Foden’s first goal. I don’t blame him for the others. It was like a FIFA goal where the defenders don’t do what you want and the other guy scores
Foden was coming inside all game at that point too and then Lindelof just switches off.
 

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And it’s real defensive basics. Don’t let them get their favourite foot
Yep, he's mediocre.
He's only here because he's experienced, reliable interms of fitness and because the club couldn't be arsed to bring in a replacement.
 

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He is a nothing player and defender. There is no difference if he plays CB or LB. He just hides.

If he was in goal, he would never jump to save a shot. He would wait that the shot hits him.

He is bang average. Everton is his level. The most useless defender you will ever see. If you rely on him to do some actual defending, you are screwed as a team and club.
 

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Said it loads. He is not suited to English football. He’d look good playing in Spain, the pace and less physical game would suit his style more. I don’t know what Jose was thinking when he signed off on this one
 

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Could someone change the forum headline on here please,
as the words Victor Lindelof and performances do not belong together.
Maybe add non to the headline.
 

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Said it loads. He is not suited to English football. He’d look good playing in Spain, the pace and less physical game would suit his style more. I don’t know what Jose was thinking when he signed off on this one
A couple of years after Jose was sacked he was in the Sky Sports studio discussing united and boldly said that Lindelof can't head the ball and it's a big weakness.

Completely ignoring that he's the one who signed him! :lol:
 

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A couple of years after Jose was sacked he was in the Sky Sports studio discussing united and boldly said that Lindelof can't head the ball and it's a big weakness.

Completely ignoring that he's the one who signed him! :lol:
He said that he does some aspects of defending well but has problems in the air and gets bullied too easily.

He was being far too kind because he doesnt do any well. He just does them a bit better than the parts of defending he does terribly
 

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And it’s real defensive basics. Don’t let them get their favourite foot
There was a clear plan how to handle Foden. They doubled up. Lindelof took care of the outside, and the next guy (Garnacho often, or midfielder) stopped him from cutting in. It worked perfectly fine up until the goal and we saw them stopping Foden several times. In the situation of the goal, a world class full back might have gotten close and stopped Foden all by himself, but Lindelof is CB who filled in for injured team mates and he still focused on not getting done on the outside. As they said in the Athletic podcast; he lead Foden in to traffic but there were no cars there. McT and Kobbie were both dropping deep into the box, one should stepped out. Not taking the responsibility away from Lindelof who could have done better, but to defend 90 minutes against City is a team effort.
 

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There was a clear plan how to handle Foden. They doubled up. Lindelof took care of the outside, and the next guy (Garnacho often, or midfielder) stopped him from cutting in. It worked perfectly fine up until the goal and we saw them stopping Foden several times. In the situation of the goal, a world class full back might have gotten close and stopped Foden all by himself, but Lindelof is CB who filled in for injured team mates and he still focused on not getting done on the outside. As they said in the Athletic podcast; he lead Foden in to traffic but there were no cars there. McT and Kobbie were both dropping deep into the box, one should stepped out. Not taking the responsibility away from Lindelof who could have done better, but to defend 90 minutes against City is a team effort.
No Garnacho was not man marking Foden coming inside. He's a winger. He's tracking back to defend against double ups from Walker the end
 

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No Garnacho was not man marking Foden coming inside. He's a winger. He's tracking back to defend against double ups from Walker the end
Not saying it was his task exclusively, but if you look at the match in detail, you would see that when we were organised we always doubled up on Foden. Probably because Foden is good, and because we didn’t have a proper LB available. In the situation of the goal, I still believe focusing on the not letting Foden go on the outside and trust your team mates to take care of him if he cut in, was the most sensible decision.
 

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Not saying it was his task exclusively, but if you look at the match in detail, you would see that when we were organised we always doubled up on Foden. Probably because Foden is good, and because we didn’t have a proper LB available. In the situation of the goal, I still believe focusing on the not letting Foden go on the outside and trust your team mates to take care of him if he cut in, was the most sensible decision.
You are so blinded with loyalty and bias towards Lindelof, you're even convincing yourself of illogical reasoning. Watch the goal again and look at McTominay and Evan's running direction to cover the edge of the box/overlap/channel ball. It's an instinctive and natural body movement toward that side because it's a done thing hundreds of times in a game, in what should be a fairly 'harmless' situation for an already set defence. Instead they had to readjust and come back inwards because they didn't expect such an experienced defender to get square so easily and allow Foden to come inside with such amateurish and weak defending.


You're literally arguing that it was a good decision to let a dangerous player get closer to our goal and closer to his teammates i.e the most dangerous areas of the pitch and the worst case scenarios.

If your reasoning is 'Lindelof is shite and therefore, it was in his best interest to pass off as much responsibility as possible to other players', then yes this is correct. Anything else is delusion.

Forget him playing LB, the area of where the ball (edge of penalty box) was received by Foden is an area most central defenders have to defend around anyways. You ALWAYS show a player into the channel and slow down their advancement towards the goal, especially if you're not going to get tight enough to actually affect them. This is literally the one thing some of his fans, you included, have tried to praise him with over the years with his 'intelligent cover of space and slowing down players' and here you are trying to say the opposite.

Shameless :lol:
 

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There was a clear plan how to handle Foden. They doubled up. Lindelof took care of the outside, and the next guy (Garnacho often, or midfielder) stopped him from cutting in. It worked perfectly fine up until the goal and we saw them stopping Foden several times. In the situation of the goal, a world class full back might have gotten close and stopped Foden all by himself, but Lindelof is CB who filled in for injured team mates and he still focused on not getting done on the outside. As they said in the Athletic podcast; he lead Foden in to traffic but there were no cars there. McT and Kobbie were both dropping deep into the box, one should stepped out. Not taking the responsibility away from Lindelof who could have done better, but to defend 90 minutes against City is a team effort.
Come on man.

it’s not just me shouting and waving my fist at the clouds anymore.

a lot more people have now recognized his faults and the fact that the longer we carry people who aren’t reaching the standards the longer our recovery is going to take

about time but better late than never
 

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So we went from Smalling and Blind to Bailly and Lindelof....progress :yawn:
 

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The best thing about this thread is that literally 10% of posts in it are @golden_blunder saying how shit he is.

Frankly thats the sort of dedication we can all get behind.
 

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The best thing about this thread is that literally 10% of posts in it are @golden_blunder saying how shit he is.

Frankly thats the sort of dedication we can all get behind.
Frustrating thing is that if he has a little purple patch now the feeling will flip again for many. It felt like trying to knock down multiple walls just using my own head. Thankfully @criticalanalysis then awakened and joined me and the resistance has been slowly growing
 

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He ducked for the cross that lead to Haaland’s open goal miss.
We have so many players that need binning in this squad and it’s going to take 4/5 transfer windows
 

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Get him out, I don't care how good he is or how well he can become, just get him out! because he hasn't got the right mentality of Manutd player, he's got the mentality of Lutton defender even them won't want a softy in their defense.
 

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Come on man.

it’s not just me shouting and waving my fist at the clouds anymore.

a lot more people have now recognized his faults and the fact that the longer we carry people who aren’t reaching the standards the longer our recovery is going to take

about time but better late than never
I actually thought we defended pretty well against City, considering the possession they had. That includes Lindelof who looked more comfortable as LB than before. (Probably. Evans there was only defending, not expected to go forward)
We have seen many goals like Foden’s goal before, even though this shot was from pretty long distance. It is very difficult to defend that on your own when you face a quick player like Foden who can go on both the inside and the outside. Foden has scored goals like that before, also against better teams than us like Liverpool, This is why you need to team up if he goes inside.

Sounds like you thought ETH picked the worst player available for the LB spot. Would be interesting to hear who you would have played as LB against City instead?

There will probably be some new CBs coming in next season. Evans and Varane probably leaving or reaching old age anyway, and if we get a new coach he might want to replace Martinez.If Lindelof stays or not, let’s wait and see.
 

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I actually thought we defended pretty well against City, considering the possession they had. That includes Lindelof who looked more comfortable as LB than before. (Probably. Evans there was only defending, not expected to go forward)
We have seen many goals like Foden’s goal before, even though this shot was from pretty long distance. It is very difficult to defend that on your own when you face a quick player like Foden who can go on both the inside and the outside. Foden has scored goals like that before, also against better teams than us like Liverpool, This is why you need to team up if he goes inside.

Sounds like you thought ETH picked the worst player available for the LB spot. Would be interesting to hear who you would have played as LB against City instead?

There will probably be some new CBs coming in next season. Evans and Varane probably leaving or reaching old age anyway, and if we get a new coach he might want to replace Martinez.If Lindelof stays or not, let’s wait and see.
I didn’t say he picked the wrong fullback option. We don’t have many options. Perhaps could have gone Dalot left back and someone else right back. Perhaps.

what I am saying though, regardless of where you are playing, you do not feed a player onto his good foot. Ever. You take your chances down the right that cover is there, rather than what happened which was opening up an invite to shoot. That’s why I’m irritated. That’s stuff you learn at school football

and that’s my issue with Lindelof. He lacks the basics to make a difference in British football. He’s in the wrong league/region. He’d do better in Spain
 

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So we went from Smalling and Blind to Bailly and Lindelof....progress :yawn:

That's what's most aggravating about it. Smalling and Blind have proven their level consistently ever since they were forced out for no good reason. And we've been mired in defensive headaches and transfer blunders ever since.

We could have just kept Smalling and Blind and saved ourselves about £150 million and years of defensive woes. Those resources could have been spent so much better elsewhere.
 

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Frustrating thing is that if he has a little purple patch now the feeling will flip again for many. It felt like trying to knock down multiple walls just using my own head. Thankfully @criticalanalysis then awakened and joined me and the resistance has been slowly growing
To be fair, the majority have seen what a pathetic player he is. However, Lindelof's biggest fanboy is still trying to convince himself and others that he's of some value. Saying the next coach might not want Martinez and that Lindelof may stay is next level delusion to make themself feel better. After 6 years and literal 1000's of The Lindelof Defence Alliance posts, the coping must be tearing them up on the inside to see what he has become. They're literally trying to say Lindelof showing Foden inside and closer to the goal was the 'right' thing :lol:
 

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We could have just kept Smalling and Blind and saved ourselves about £150 million and years of defensive woes. Those resources could have been spent so much better elsewhere.
The ressources could have been spent better, but the thing is we couldn't have spent it better. We'd probably have bought Longstaff and a half retired Bale for that money.
 

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To be fair, the majority have seen what a pathetic player he is. However, Lindelof's biggest fanboy is still trying to convince himself and others that he's of some value. Saying the next coach might not want Martinez and that Lindelof may stay is next level delusion to make themself feel better. After 6 years and literal 1000's of The Lindelof Defence Alliance posts, the coping must be tearing them up on the inside to see what he has become. They're literally trying to say Lindelof showing Foden inside and closer to the goal was the 'right' thing :lol:
I think that he’s Swedish so he’s defending his countryman

“defending” ironic word
 

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He has been at the club for far, far too long given his level of ability. I don't think he's a terrible player but he's a terrible player for Man United in this league. Emblematic of the mediocrity we have had to constantly see take the pitch and then we reward it with contracts. To think him and Martial have been hanging around as long as they have.
 

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Does anybody else think Lindelof showing Foden inside and closer to the goal was the right thing? I'm sure it was.
Hope you're okay hun, might be the last season before you can defend his honour again. I'd go for Hojlund for next best hair potential.

I think that he’s Swedish so he’s defending his countryman

“defending” ironic word
I'd applaud the dedication if it was for someone who actually has contributed majorly to this club and or has some talent. Cannot understand it for such a mediocre footballer.
 

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I didn’t say he picked the wrong fullback option. We don’t have many options. Perhaps could have gone Dalot left back and someone else right back. Perhaps.

what I am saying though, regardless of where you are playing, you do not feed a player onto his good foot. Ever. You take your chances down the right that cover is there, rather than what happened which was opening up an invite to shoot. That’s why I’m irritated. That’s stuff you learn at school football

and that’s my issue with Lindelof. He lacks the basics to make a difference in British football. He’s in the wrong league/region. He’d do better in Spain
I’ve seen Foden do the same to Robertson and other proper full backs so it’s not as simple as you are trying to make it. Salah, Messi, Robben… there are many players who have scored similar goals again and again against world class full backs. Not saying Lindelof couldn’t have done better but if we had done as we did for most of the match and doubled up this wouldn’t have happened.

He would probably do better in Spain yes, and possibly better in some other more organised PL teams as well. Remember however that we finished second in the league with him and Maguire as cb pair with McFred in front of them.
 

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If we get 30m for Maguire (and he actually decides to move this time) and 15-20m for Varane from Saudi, then I can't see Lindelof leaving in the same summer. It might be a case where we keep him around as a backup and let him go on a free in 2025. As long as we don't keep rewarding mediocrity and renew his contract!
 

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Lindelof defenders on here have shown better defending skills than him tbf.
"Other top players have equally worst moments, therefore Lindelof isn't as bad, so let's minimise his responsibility and blame the team for not migitating his mistake of showing Foden inside".

Yes let's completely ignore those top players...are TOP players and put in TOP performances week in week out the other 99% of the time.

"Also we got second place with him, so that proves he was a good player".

Let's ignore it was Maguire, McFred and Bruno who did most of the heavy lifting in that season. We've also played three cup finals in the last four years. FA Cup and Europa League, which we lost and guess what? Lindelof started and was directly involved in the incidents leading up to the first goals conceded in those games. At usual he was doing his thing of 'being near the vicinity of the action but not really doing anything'. We should mention that in the Europa League final, Lindelof took the 10th and second to last penalty despite starting the game and being one of our most experienced players. He took a penalty AFTER players like Tuanzebe, Telles, James and Mata, who all came on in the last 3-4 mins of extra time. The other final was last season's EFL, which we won and he didn't play a single minute.

The Lindelof Defence Alliance and deferring is truly world class :drool:
 
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Extremely quiet in here today given he played well. You guys are more transparent than my kitchen window, which incidentally I had to fix last night because the locking spindle disconnected from the handle.