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stefan92

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It’s not an apology or a reflection is you say “I’m sorry about this thing, but those guys are the cause of it”
Well it's at least interesting to note that he seems to have a realistic view of his current performance level, considering that his falling out with EtH started with comments about performance. Which supports the suspicion that there actually was more to the whole story than just training performances (disclaimer: Not saying that anything about those other reasons was wrong, if they existed!)
 

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It’s not an apology or a reflection is you say “I’m sorry about this thing, but those guys are the cause of it”
It is definitely self reflection when he acknowledges he didn't play well despite his goal. Where did you even get this from? I was curious what exactly he said about United but couldn't find anything recent which you could have referred to.
 

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Sancho may have been a failure for us but he seems to be having the last laugh…
No we are. We’ll sell him for good value now. He’s a weak minded player who can’t handle difficult circumstances. Sell well and watch other teams wilt when the crap hits the fan. I’m convinced Sancho is a vibes player. That’s it.
 

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Sancho may have been a failure for us but he seems to be having the last laugh…
By rinsing us of a bunch of cash? I mean, fine, but you'd hope that most top professional footballers would have loftier goals and there's no chance he's starting for a top side any time soon.
 

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No we are. We’ll sell him for good value now. He’s a weak minded player who can’t handle difficult circumstances. Sell well and watch other teams wilt when the crap hits the fan. I’m convinced Sancho is a vibes player. That’s it.
How much do you think you will get for him..... All the negative publicity about his work ethics can't have helped his value .
 

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Wan Bissaka offers 10 X what Darmian did going forward at Utd. Haven't see enough of him in Italy to see if he has developed that side of his game but if he still the full back who takes a nosebleed when he leaves his own half we are well rid of him.
Wan Bissaka can't cross a ball and has shit close control and poor passing touch. To act as though he is some sort of revelation because he gets forward well is a bit narrow minded here. The only thing that he excelled at offensively was getting further and further out of position, shit what was he is gonna do at the goal line blaze in some laser cross to an imaginary 10 foot tall striker? I will say he did make some spectacular tackles defensively but feel like those were more last ditch than true defensive know-how. Both have disappointed at United. It's really simple fullbacks have to jobs, attack the other fullback and defend against the wide players. How do we keep finding players that are shit at both. We still try to stick with some wing play but it invariably breaks down about 15-25 yards out from goal because none of the players can beat their man on their own (bar Garnacho, I include our wide players as well just to emphasize the importance of the interplay between the two) or clever enough to work one twos. The only thing I have seen us do with any regularity since Ibra went down back in 2017 and look somewhat competent at is counterattack, which is limited in the way EtH wants to play. Granted, its seven years later but two more coaches and unbalanced team , it's an absolute shit show. I think once United let Jose go and brought in Ole the damage was done, the players here largely are disgraces. Not fit for the shirt! We have players that walk into our starting XI game after game after game and put out shit displays, but even worse shit effort its insane! Hell, that's if they even make it onto the field, which Antony and Sancho have had trouble doing. 200 million can't even get on the pitch. With behavior like what we are seeing over the last 4 years the problem is systemic, they need to get all the problems out of there ASAP, and biggest one is RASHFORD!
 

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By rinsing us of a bunch of cash? I mean, fine, but you'd hope that most top professional footballers would have loftier goals and there's no chance he's starting for a top side any time soon.
He is going to play a CL QF soon while United is long gone from this competition...
 

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It's amazing how so many on here downright hate Sancho because he clashed with a coach who is not even successful or known as a great man manager.
 

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It's amazing how so many on here downright hate Sancho because he clashed with a coach who is not even successful or known as a great man manager.
Ten Hag has nothing to do with Sancho being a lazy unprofessional scrote who can't hack it in a tough league
 

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It's amazing how so many on here downright hate Sancho because he clashed with a coach who is not even successful or known as a great man manager.
Nice to see your back trolling as soon as Sancho scores a couple of goals. Such a wum.
 

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He is going to play a CL QF soon while United is long gone from this competition...
Does he get a medal for that then? Do you see playing a quarter final as having the last laugh?! You bundesliga folks never cease to amaze with how quick you are to defend anything remotely related to the BL.
 

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Does he get a medal for that then? Do you see playing a quarter final as having the last laugh?! You bundesliga folks never cease to amaze with how quick you are to defend anything remotely related to the BL.
Of course he doesn't get a medal for that, I just think that a team that reaches a CL QF can be called a top team, and moving to such a team can be seen as having "loftier goals" as you called it.

It's simply a fact that Sancho is the only player under contract at United who still actively participates in the CL this year, doesn't matter that he plays for a BL team now, would be the same if he was on loan now at Atletico.
 

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Of course he doesn't get a medal for that, I just think that a team that reaches a CL QF can be called a top team, and moving to such a team can be seen as having "loftier goals" as you called it.

It's simply a fact that Sancho is the only player under contract at United who still actively participates in the CL this year, doesn't matter that he plays for a BL team now, would be the same if he was on loan now at Atletico.
Last season Chelsea reached QFs, same with Benfica. they aren't top teams.

It just depends on luck with the draw.
 

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Ten Hag has nothing to do with Sancho being a lazy unprofessional scrote who can't hack it in a tough league
Unfortunately there is a lot on here who have an agenda against Ten Hag. There’s plenty of arguments about Ten Hag but the Sancho situation isn’t one of them
 

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He's doing well at Dortmund is good for him and us. Just hoping that the Club will be wise enough not to have "hope" again on players like him, who have proven that they can be "unmotivated" for long period of time.
 

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Sancho may have been a failure for us but he seems to be having the last laugh…
By dropping down a level league/club wise and scoring against the mighty PSV. Good for him though if it gives us more transfer value.

He’s far better than Antony obviously but that’s not even praise.
 

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It's amazing how so many on here downright hate Sancho because he clashed with a coach who is not even successful or known as a great man manager.
It's not "clashed" with a coach. He was downright unprofessional and late for many different training sessions because he wants to play FIFA till 2AM. The manager gave him all the leeway during the first season. Even in the second season, the point of contention was that the manager just said he didn't pick Sancho because of his training performance. It's basically textbook manager speak. Sancho's the one that blew that up, acted like a petulant child and refused to apologize.

I want Ten Hag gone as much as the next guy but standards need to be set. If you condone this sort of behavior for a mediocre player then the whole team culture will go to shit.
 

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Not for us he wasn't. Antony last season was comfortably better than any season Sancho had with us.
I actually agree with that. He’s definitely a better footballer than Antony but for us he was a waste-man overall given his wages.

That’s why I’m not angry at Antony but I am at Sancho. He’s a talented guy but didn’t seem to care.
 

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It's amazing how so many on here downright hate Sancho because he clashed with a coach who is not even successful or known as a great man manager.
Ten Hag is a spoofer, but so is Sancho.
 

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He is playing in a lower tier league now. I would expect him to do better. Maybe someone like Bayern Munich could take a punt?
 

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Of course he doesn't get a medal for that, I just think that a team that reaches a CL QF can be called a top team, and moving to such a team can be seen as having "loftier goals" as you called it.

It's simply a fact that Sancho is the only player under contract at United who still actively participates in the CL this year, doesn't matter that he plays for a BL team now, would be the same if he was on loan now at Atletico.
Dortmund are the definition of an average side. No ambition as they know that, barring some minor Alonso-esque miracle, nobody is winning that league except Munich. They have very little ambition and a mediocre squad, so I guess Sancho is a good fit for them. Also, you know the reason Sancho went running back there had nothing to do with ambition right? It's because Dortmund is his comfort zone - the league is a much lower standard and he'll get much more space to pull off the odd skill like the video above. Which seems to be enough to make the BDL squirt its collective pants.
 

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Dortmund are the definition of an average side. No ambition as they know that, barring some minor Alonso-esque miracle, nobody is winning that league except Munich. They have very little ambition and a mediocre squad, so I guess Sancho is a good fit for them. Also, you know the reason Sancho went running back there had nothing to do with ambition right? It's because Dortmund is his comfort zone - the league is a much lower standard and he'll get much more space to pull off the odd skill like the video above. Which seems to be enough to make the BDL squirt its collective pants.
Get off the high horse. Dortmund is, like us, not having their best season, but they have still managed to get into the quarter finals of the CL. Where are we? The BVB is not exactly a farmers team, and we would also need a miracle to beat City, Liverpool and Arsenal for the title at the moment. The Bundesliga is a top 4 league in the world. Sancho did not work here, but he has got loads of potential. He is just too fragile. It seems to work there though, so good luck to him..
 

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Get off the high horse. Dortmund is, like us, not having their best season, but they have still managed to get into the quarter finals of the CL. Where are we? The BVB is not exactly a farmers team, and we would also need a miracle to beat City, Liverpool and Arsenal for the title at the moment. The Bundesliga is a top 4 league in the world. Sancho did not work here, but he has got loads of potential. He is just too fragile. It seems to work there though, so good luck to him..
But it's got nothing to do with how good we are or are not, and sorry, but the BL is incredibly uncompetitive and the standard is MUCH lower than the PL. The other poster said that Dortmund's goals are loftier than United's which is rubbish. Dortmund are perfectly content being a top 4 German side that reaches an occasional CL QF/SF. United is a club on an entirely different scale, with entirely different expectations and aspirations.

Edit: also, feck 'good luck to him'. He's a man child that's been unable to show up in the prem and that sulks when called out on it. Didn't have the character to step up from being a big fish in a small pond. I hope his career fizzles after we've shipped him for reasonable money.
 
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Of course he doesn't get a medal for that, I just think that a team that reaches a CL QF can be called a top team, and moving to such a team can be seen as having "loftier goals" as you called it.

It's simply a fact that Sancho is the only player under contract at United who still actively participates in the CL this year, doesn't matter that he plays for a BL team now, would be the same if he was on loan now at Atletico.
Loftier goals :lol:

The “simple fact” means absolutely feck all, lots of shite footballers, lots of massive flops have played in the quarters and semis of the CL. It’s a nothing fact.
 

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Especially in this instance when it's actually an English player. I could almost understand it if the player was German, but they're not!
The fun thing is that none of us said that the BL is a very good league (it has clear weaknesses on the pitch compared to the PL) or even that we like Dortmund (they are a bunch of terrible managed wasters, so bad that you all seem to believe that they are happy being top 4. They aim for being top 2 and grab whichever title Bayern fails to win. They are just almost as stupid on board level as United due to Watzke's irrational desire to find Klopp 2.0, just like United want SAF 2.0).

None of this is patriotic, but you see that as the only explanation. While the truth is more simple: you rightfully hate him for grabbing a lot of undeserved money from United. I just like seeing him play well, as than he is entertaining to watch.
 
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While the truth is more simple: you rightfully hate him for grabbing a lot of undeserved money from United. I just like seeing him play well, as than he is entertaining to watch.
Throwing the word “hate” around isn’t getting you out of this bizarre patriotic nonsense, you do it with everything Bundesliga related, not just Sancho.

I for one don’t remotely hate Sancho, and I also loved watching him in Germany, as I likely will again if he gets a move there and can find some decent form again.

But, he’s been absolute shite in the Premier League under three different managers, looks utterly shite for England too, and he’s clearly been unprofessional. Pointing that out doesn’t make it all about “hating him because of a tiff with ETH”.
Many just don’t see him ever cutting it in the PL and think we wasted big money for a guy who clearly doesn’t even want to give it his all.