Seems like an unreliable source (the Daily Mail using a Sun article that itself is citing an anonymous source).Tweet
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Probably not fully relevant but several players including Bruno keep liking his Instagram posts.Seems like an unreliable source (the Daily Mail using a Sun article that itself is citing an anonymous source).
I believe the bit about the players probably wanting him back because they know him at a personal level and at least some of them have probably been texting him throughout the loan. I’m just not sure if the Sun would be able to verify it through an anonymous source.Probably not fully relevant but several players including Bruno keep liking his Instagram posts.
I bet Kaveh Solhekol and Dharmesh Shesh have some sources.I believe the bit about the players probably wanting him back because they know him at a personal level and at least some of them have probably been texting him throughout the loan. I’m just not sure if the Sun would be able to verify it through an anonymous source.
Oh yes, i agree with you then.I believe the bit about the players probably wanting him back because they know him at a personal level and at least some of them have probably been texting him throughout the loan. I’m just not sure if the Sun would be able to verify it through an anonymous source.
Do you mean, trusting speculations from unconfirmed sources? If you trust anything you read, you are gonna lose your hair quickly. The players will be the last ones to be asked for an opinion. Doesn't matter if they want him back or not, if the management is not open to that idea. The noise right now is that United will sell him in the summer.What a great way of ruining yesterday's brilliant result.
Typical of us this season.
wrong....greenwood is absolutely our best attacking player even over rashford and garnachojust let him go. garnacho, diallo, rashford and another offer plenty in those areas and we dont need another season kicking off with off pitch hysteria. Before the well known incident he was already dropped by england and starting to show some real patchy form- compared to a talent like garnacho where work rate is concerned, i think we should make money while we can and just move on.
Wrong.wrong....greenwood is absolutely our best attacking player even over rashford and garnacho
no doubt there are players on the team who stay in touch with him as an offer of support
That may have been the case 4 years ago compared to how the likes of Rashford and Garnacho are playing in the present (which isn't that bad to be honest), but it would be hard to make the case that Greenwood at Getafe is somehow head and shoulders better than anything we have in the present. I do think he would be much better at United this year than at Getafe given the quality he would be surrounded by as well as the incentive of playing for his hometown childhood club.wrong....greenwood is absolutely our best attacking player even over rashford and garnacho
no doubt there are players on the team who stay in touch with him as an offer of support
You could easily imagine a number of players not wanting back though. Even ignoring the whole sexual assault situation it sounds like he was often a but of a prick to other players and the coaching staffI believe the bit about the players probably wanting him back because they know him at a personal level and at least some of them have probably been texting him throughout the loan. I’m just not sure if the Sun would be able to verify it through an anonymous source.
Will you be upset to hand it over?
Beyond personality clashes or previous issues I’d imagine most would welcome him.You could easily imagine a number of players not wanting back though. Even ignoring the whole sexual assault situation it sounds like he was often a but of a prick to other players and the coaching staff
Their own fans should be the priority not the mediaRealise that irrespective of what we do, people despise United regardless. We aren’t getting any love-ins for discarding Greenwood.
Bring him back, don’t bring him back, whatever. It won’t change the societal opinion of United. We certainly aren’t currying any favour with the public and/or media by ostracising Greenwood.
i'll give you Garnacho is having a solid campaign in terms of just being consistent with the vast majority of his performances, i just don't think you can say the same about Rashford.That may have been the case 4 years ago compared to how the likes of Rashford and Garnacho are playing in the present (which isn't that bad to be honest), but it would be hard to make the case that Greenwood at Getafe is somehow head and shoulders better than anything we have. I do think he would be much better at United this year than at Getafe given the quality he would be surrounded by as well as the incentive of playing for his hometown childhood club.
If we keep all those players then its unlikely Greenwood returns. We would still have Sancho and Pellistri to get rid of as well. On the other hand, the prospect of retaining Anthony and Amad are probably based on recency bias and not on their overall contribution this year, so it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility if one of them goes to make FFP room for other buys, irrespective of whether Greenwood himself stays or goes.Putting the other issues aside for a moment, where would actually play Greenwood? At RW we have Garnacho and behind him Antony and Amad. At CF we have Hojlund, who does not has a backup. Does Greenwood agree to come back as a squad player?
I disagree. I think hes a fantastic talent, but scored 5 and 7 in his previous 2 league seasons. And had plenty of games he was way off it, with loads of speculation about how unhappy he is re Ronaldo and so on. All similar stuff you see around Sancho. Dumped by England. He was carrying plenty of baggage for a teenager, before the high profile incident. Id take Garnacho over him every week.wrong....greenwood is absolutely our best attacking player even over rashford and garnacho
no doubt there are players on the team who stay in touch with him as an offer of support
Switch between right and middle ?Putting the other issues aside for a moment, where would actually play Greenwood? At RW we have Garnacho and behind him Antony and Amad. At CF we have Hojlund, who does not has a backup. Does Greenwood agree to come back as a squad player?
What evidence do you have of dressing rooms not being forward thinking places?Beyond personality clashes or previous issues I’d imagine most would welcome him.
Footballers want to win, want to be in winning teams that get trophies and have a finite time/opportunity to do so. They want the worlds best talents to come to the club they are at.
Dressing rooms are not forward thinking or overly moral places. Certainly not the ones I’ve been in and evidence is fairly overwhelming that remains the case/is the case at top clubs.
Racially abusive players find clubs and dressing rooms to excel in, players with sex scandals/rape allegations, proven/unproven do fine. The recent Austria(?) players Ragnick disciplined for homophobia will be back after a game or two with, I’m sure, totally new opinions.
Racism off the top of my head;What evidence do you have of dressing rooms not being forward thinking places?
Not sure many racists or people who commit sexual assaults find a place at top clubs. Sure some find their way back into professional football but usually at lower level clubs
He's pretty versatile. We have Garnacho, Hojlund, Antony and Rashford currently for 4 spots. He'll get more than enough games if he comes back (rotating with Hojlund / Garnacho).Putting the other issues aside for a moment, where would actually play Greenwood? At RW we have Garnacho and behind him Antony and Amad. At CF we have Hojlund, who does not has a backup. Does Greenwood agree to come back as a squad player?
An odd question given that dressing rooms / locker rooms across all sport are notorious for being crass and brimming with masculinity culture. Not exactly environments that one would consider "forward thinking".What evidence do you have of dressing rooms not being forward thinking places?
Wish that was the case. But commercialism, marketability and reputational damage is more important to a club than fans who can be bought with a shiny new player here and there.Their own fans should be the priority not the media
I think it's quite disrespectful to link the first two as on some kind of parity with the final one.sexual/domestic assault/paying for sex:
He’s a Manchester United player… and a good one at that.Why so much talk about a Getafe player who hasn't played for United since 2022?
The day after United beat the scousers 4-3.
Bizarre.
Disrespectful to who?I think it's quite disrespectful to link the first two as on some kind of parity with the final one.
Is he any good?just let him go. garnacho, diallo, rashford and another offer plenty in those areas and we dont need another season kicking off with off pitch hysteria. Before the well known incident he was already dropped by england and starting to show some real patchy form- compared to a talent like garnacho where work rate is concerned, i think we should make money while we can and just move on.
Long term Garnachos future is on the left. Greenwood is a better player than Antony and Amad. If Greenwood were to return I think he would know he isn't walking straight back into the team.Putting the other issues aside for a moment, where would actually play Greenwood? At RW we have Garnacho and behind him Antony and Amad. At CF we have Hojlund, who does not has a backup. Does Greenwood agree to come back as a squad player?
It's tabloid nonsense any way but you are putting way too much stock in whether players want him back or not , irrespective of what their opinion is that includes Women team if the Club decides to bring him back everybody will fall in line at Club I don't see any possibility of things getting out of hand at all .It doesn’t matter if the mens team want him back. I’m pretty sure the woman’s team won’t and that will have to be taken into account. They all share carrington so there’s a risk of things getting out of control.
I disagree. There’s always gonna be players with different opinions. They’ll be some that want him back and some that don’t. That’s the way it is… whatever is decided though will be the right choice by the club and they’ll have a statement to say why they choose what they did. And if they choose that he’s coming back into the team then it’s down to the ones that was against it to get use to it.It's tabloid nonsense any way but you are putting way too much stock in whether players want him back or not , irrespective of what their opinion is that includes Women team if the Club decides to bring him back everybody will fall in line at Club I don't see any possibility of things getting out of hand at all .
Rather ominous take, but not one without merit.It's tabloid nonsense any way but you are putting way too much stock in whether players want him back or not , irrespective of what their opinion is that includes Women team if the Club decides to bring him back everybody will fall in line at Club there is not a chance in hell of things getting out of control .
If they don't, they can always be booted out and replaced with compliant staff, anyway. Same with supporters.And if they choose that he’s coming back into the team then it’s down to the ones that was against it to get use to it.
Yup.It's tabloid nonsense any way but you are putting way too much stock in whether players want him back or not , irrespective of what their opinion is that includes Women team if the Club decides to bring him back everybody will fall in line at Club I don't see any possibility of things getting out of hand at all .
It’s quite sad that we’d be willing to take 40m when he’s worth easily a lot more. He’s still only 22 and if he moves to a top side he’ll bang them in for fun. If he was still at us and in top form we’d be talking closer to 100m in today’s market.Yup.
The most important factor isn’t the views of the Men’s or Women’s team, it’ll be a financial one.
Sponsors, bad PR & transfer fee will weigh much heavier.
United will want a good fee for him, I’d imagine a 40m & he’s all yours, else a cheaper fee with a large sell on clause. If they get that, I can’t for a second see them turning it down. It’s very likely the player and his family will also want nothing to do with coming back to United and the negative response that will follow.
Calm down mate we are talking about football Club not some Criminal organisation here .Rather ominous take, but not one without merit.
The women's team can be coerced into accepting him back. A transfer threat, rumours about their own conduct 'leaked' or even physically/mentally threatened. This wouldn't happen as much with the men's team, but could be implemented gradually.
There's every chance 'control' can be prised away from them and made to mean something else entirely. Something awful.
Fingers crossed the club does the right thing and remove Greenwood, especially if there's a massive furore. The last thing we need is another self-inflicted off pitch distraction.
If they don't, they can always be booted out and replaced with compliant staff, anyway. Same with supporters.
This is why setting the right example is imperative.
Sad but that’s how it turned out, as soon as the allegations were made public he was damaged goods. If the club can get 40m, or 30m + a large sell-on, I think they’ll be delighted at this point.It’s quite sad that we’d be willing to take 40m when he’s worth easily a lot more. He’s still only 22 and if he moves to a top side he’ll bang them in for fun. If he was still at us and in top form we’d be talking closer to 100m in today’s market.
Someone’s been binging on too much SuccessionRather ominous take, but not one without merit.
The women's team can be coerced into accepting him back. A transfer threat, rumours about their own conduct 'leaked' or even physically/mentally threatened. This wouldn't happen as much with the men's team, but could be implemented gradually.
There's every chance 'control' can be prised away from them and made to mean something else entirely. Something awful.