Aston Villa appoint Unai Emery as manager

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Yeah, despite the goal Dendoncker was really poor.
You've been linked with him haven't you....

I don't mind him as much as most of our fanbase (as he's a bit of a whipping boy when he plays and we lose) but someone who isn't quite good enough to feature regularly for the level we're at. Would do a solid job for a Palace, Fulham or indeed Everton though. Nuno at Forest will probably be interested as he was a regular at Wolves.
 

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Shall keep this brief.

You were talking about United in a Villa thread. I replied to you.

You stated Pau and Kamara are crucial to the system they play. I pointed out Martinez (and Casemiro I guess) are both crucial to ours.

Both points are true and factual. I’ll not sure what you’re arguing about really unless you disagree that Martinez and Casemiro are important.
Dude just take the L on this one :lol: You don’t have to try and start gaslighting etc.

I was absolutely not talking about Manchester United. If you want to find me posting about Manchester United there are hundreds of posts in Manchester United threads of me doing this.

Massively missed Pau and Kamara. They’re critical to that system. Dendocker despite his goal was rubbish. Lenglet was atrocious too. I also do think we’re one of the best teams at getting through such a system when it’s having an off day. Also villa are dodgy as feck away from home.
This is my post, mainly about Aston Villa in an Aston Villa thread. There’s an off remark about United in the post (a positive one and absolutely nothing to do with injuries) it’s obvious this was not an invitation to discuss Manchester United’s injury problems.

Clearly you have a thing about United not being given leeway regarding injuries. Clearly a very strong thing seeing as how you’ve now taken to derailing threads on other football clubs to push the point. But my advice would be to keep it to United threads. It’ll be a long season ahead if you start biting at every post on here that mentions injuries.
 

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Dude just take the L on this one :lol: You don’t have to try and start gaslighting etc.

I was absolutely not talking about Manchester United. If you want to find me posting about Manchester United there are hundreds of posts in Manchester United threads of me doing this.



This is my post, mainly about Aston Villa in an Aston Villa thread. There’s an off remark about United in the post (a positive one and absolutely nothing to do with injuries) it’s obvious this was not an invitation to discuss Manchester United’s injury problems.

Clearly you have a thing about United not being given leeway regarding injuries. Clearly a very strong thing seeing as how you’ve now taken to derailing threads on other football clubs to push the point. But my advice would be to keep it to United threads. It’ll be a long season ahead if you start biting at every post on here that mentions the word injury.
I’m really happy mate. Great win for United and very well deserved.

The point still stands though. Martinez and Casemiro are as important to how United play to Torres and Kamara. Not sure what your issues is.
 

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I’m really happy mate. Great win for United and very well deserved.

The point still stands though. Martinez and Casemiro are as important to how United play to Torres and Kamara. Not sure what your issues is.
Me too, I am so happy, more than you believe. Happy new year. :smirk:
 

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You've been linked with him haven't you....

I don't mind him as much as most of our fanbase (as he's a bit of a whipping boy when he plays and we lose) but someone who isn't quite good enough to feature regularly for the level we're at. Would do a solid job for a Palace, Fulham or indeed Everton though. Nuno at Forest will probably be interested as he was a regular at Wolves.
Yes, which I don't mind as a squad player which he would likely be. Garner, Doucoure and Onana is our first choice three but with Gana off to AFCON soon we need another CM for cover.
 

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We play like that most weeks. I don't have an issue as we usually get total control at VP hence the 8 wins in 9 and while away is more difficult our record is o.k for top 4 challenge.

I do look at Newcastle and Spurs playing belting end to end games and wondering how both will be standing come May given the injuries and general intensity.

I think we're pacing ourselves o.k but simply we had no answer as soon as Man. United got the first tonight and were just waiting to be defeated. High line got exposed at Old Trafford aswell last season but ultimately many other teams in last 12 months struggle to cut it open like you did so Emery will just look at that and think it's worth it for all the other wins we get.
It's hard to disagree with him. He BATTERED City with it, and I don't think I've ever seen a side outplay a Guardiola team quite as heavily as Villa did that day. Newcastle and Spurs will continue to be inconsistent, and with their injuries at the minute Newcastle can't buy a win. Won't take much for Spurs to fall off as well.

His post match interview he was so furious though. If his side had held on to win that would have been 42 points at the half way mark and that would be title-winning form. 39 points is still incredible, I think that's going to be the point he makes to his players - don't get too disheartened because it's just one loss, win against Burnley and get back on track.
 

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Any title talk was completely fanciful. Maybe if we'd beaten Arsenal and Man. City in April but silly when there's still over half the season left.

We also aren't getting anywhere near 90 points, even in the miracle Leicester year they actually could've won that league with low 70s IIRC so was a massive drop off that year compared to now.

70 points is still realistic though unless our home form really drops off in second half of the season.
I actually agree with you completely. But the players will still be aware of it and it wouldn’t surprise me if it started to enter into their minds a we get towards the business end.

Last night was a 100% bottle job though. You could see the confidence drain out the team.
 

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What a shambles that was last night. If we had anything about us, we would have hit them for 7 or 8. Surely they don't play those kamikaze tactics every week. I fully expect Spurs to take that 4th spot.
 

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What a shambles that was last night. If we had anything about us, we would have hit them for 7 or 8. Surely they don't play those kamikaze tactics every week. I fully expect Spurs to take that 4th spot.
I hope they get in the top four, but they will fade away.
 

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Was a bit of payback for ending our long unbeaten run at Villa Park last season
 

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English managers are rugged and working class and use rudimentary tactics and their Latin counterparts, who are sophisticated and urbane and use intricate, complex tactics. This is true even when they're of the exact same background using the exact same tactics.
What does this have to do with Emery? He is not "latin" he is Spanish, from Spain. And there are actually not that many English managers in EPL anyway... so, what were you going about, again?
 

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What does this have to do with Emery? He is not "latin" he is Spanish, from Spain. And there are actually not that many English managers in EPL anyway... so, what were you going about, again?
Yeah wrong thread. Was meant to go in the Weird Feelings of Football thread.
 

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Props for managing to keep this under wraps so far - hopefully it won't affect their rest of a season. Would love to see them in CL.
 

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These club documentaries are all the same.

Slow-mo montage, close-up player interviews full of the same sentences, underdog narrative...
 

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These club documentaries are all the same.

Slow-mo montage, close-up player interviews full of the same sentences, underdog narrative...
They're massively tedious and just barely hidden propaganda tools for the club. Highly edited obviously. It's been massively documented for ages, from every top athlete, that what goes on behind the scenes needs to remain secret for the system to function effectively - anything actually interesting would just be taken out.
 

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They'll have missed a massive opportunity if they don't have Unai doing an Alfred Hitchcock style 'Good Evening' intro.
 

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He got it badly wrong not starting Bailey, probably Unai's worst selection call since becoming our manager.
 

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Never seems to get mentioned when discussing potential ETH replacements, but surely would be worth consideration?

What he’s done with Villa is nothing short of sensational and he’s got a far more impressive CV than the likes of Potter & Southgate.

Either way surely he has to be manager of the year?
 

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Never seems to get mentioned when discussing potential ETH replacements, but surely would be worth consideration?

What he’s done with Villa is nothing short of sensational and he’s got a far more impressive CV than the likes of Potter & Southgate.

Either way surely he has to be manager of the year?
He wouldn't be interested in joining you after what he inherited post Wenger at Arsenal.

We're the perfect club for his managerial capabilities, project and a squad that actually wants to learn and improve. Also a big chance to end our long trophy drought.

Likes of Aubameyang and Ozil weren't interested in that one little bit and that was half of the problems at Arsenal and would be similar with the squad you've currently got.
 

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Just to add to what he's doing with Villa. What he did with Villareal was amazing. A small city with 50,000 and a tiny budget. Won the Europa League and got to a Champions League semi final.

Added to everything he did beforehand, he would certainly be one of top picks for the United job.
 

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Deserved a lot more respect but got mocked at Arse like he was a Spanish David Moyes.
They were really shit when he took over and didn’t really back him at all in the transfer market it was a no win situation pretty much
 

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Super experienced already but think he’s hit his prime as a coach, time for another go at one of the big boys (or stay and keep pushing Villa on)
 

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Fantastic manager. Must be pretty sweet to do that against Arsenal.
 

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He's a class manager. I want EtH to have another season, but if we part ways he should be on the shortlist for real.
 

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They were really shit when he took over and didn’t really back him at all in the transfer market it was a no win situation pretty much
See what Utd are currently serving up with Ten Hag….conceding 30 shots a game a lot of games, that’s what it was like in the end for Arsenal under Emery. A likeable guy, but I’m not sure he could have sorted Arsenal out.

I like him at clubs like Sevilla. Villarreal and Villa. Good clubs that he can make punch above their weight, and have them hovering around latter Europa League level. Im just not sure he has the character for a top club. Certainly would be interesting to see him get another chance mind you.
 

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See what Utd are currently serving up with Ten Hag….conceding 30 shots a game a lot of games, that’s what it was like in the end for Arsenal under Emery. A likeable guy, but I’m not sure he could have sorted Arsenal out.

I like him at clubs like Sevilla. Villarreal and Villa. Good clubs that he can make punch above their weight, and have them hovering around latter Europa League level. Im just not sure he has the character for a top club. Certainly would be interesting to see him get another chance mind you.

Even Arteta was finishing 8th in his first seasons the squad was awful. I had a look at the summer transfer business for Emery: Lichensteiner, Denis Suarez, Socratis, Leno and Lucas Terreira….. yikes

Didn’t he finish 5th in his only full season? I don’t think Arsenal finished that high since last season in comparison
 

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You have to take into account the size of United whenever you consider a new manager.

Emery would be a far better choice than the likes of Potter, DeZerbi.