Gary is the type of guy to invite on a Bayern and Germany legend and ask him about his last few years at United.
Bastian Schweinsteiger interview
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I think they genuinely believe what they're saying. I think this "progress" term in football is one that a lot of people use but don't fully understand. They think that because SAF took time to build at the club and be successful it's the case for every manager. Now Arteta is their example whilst there are numerous examples of this not being the case. It's only progress if you're moving forward, but more importantly, you can only progress if you have a real goal. We have a goal of being successful on the pitch but I doubt there has been any clear vision or plan on how to get there.
So many great players joined is in these years and all more or less flopped or there where similar issues. Maybe, just maybe the club was run by a bunch of absolute cretins.
Meh. If him flying in and out of Germany for treatment was part of an agreement with LvG then its a stupid now as it was then.
I dont remember too many caring about it then on the grounds he was never fit anyway and no wonder the culture at the club exists like it has when the younger players saw him jetting off while injured to watch his partners tennis matches and the likes of Pogba doing similar.
While it doesnt sound like a solely Mourinho decision the fact that Jose used his usual scorched earth approach to solving a problem shouldnt surprise anyone at this point. Sledgehammer instead of a slap on the wrist approach.
However not having the courtesy to explain it is appalling form.
I dont remember too many caring about it then on the grounds he was never fit anyway and no wonder the culture at the club exists like it has when the younger players saw him jetting off while injured to watch his partners tennis matches and the likes of Pogba doing similar.
While it doesnt sound like a solely Mourinho decision the fact that Jose used his usual scorched earth approach to solving a problem shouldnt surprise anyone at this point. Sledgehammer instead of a slap on the wrist approach.
However not having the courtesy to explain it is appalling form.
I’d be thinking there’s more to the interview than his Utd career
I still cannot remember a single thing he did in a Utd shirt. I've got absolutely nothing.
Didn't he score a free kick against City?
Scored vs Leicester, I only remember because I thought Rooney injured him when he then fell on him after to celebrate
It basically is, and there is a part about managers at the end. Schweinsteiger has experienced so much in his career but we didn't get to hear much about it. Schweinsteiger is well-spoken and easy to listen to, he clearly takes in a lot of what's going on around him. It would have been good to get a better range of topics and questions. Gary even asked him about fecking Rashford.
Isnt that what Gary his audience wants to hear about?
I will forever be baffled by the love many of our fans had for Cavani. Guy was great when finally fit in the second half of the '21 season, then got pissy when we signed Ronaldo and basically was "injured" the rest of his time here when he wasn't begging to leave the country
Considering he wasn’t with us very long. He loves us! I always see his tweets saying he’s watching us and ‘come on United’
The overlap isn't a United, channel and they get a lot of complaints for having too many United people on and conducting poor interviews. I love United but have some diversity. There are plenty of outlets speaking about United all the time, and Bastian has so many things to speak about. He's very knowledgeable about football and made Gary look like a chimp.
To be fair, his story about Robben and Ribery, tactics against Barca were more interesting than anything United related.
He can claimed to how much he loves the club, but he wasn’t the greatest of professionals during his time at United. Was always injured or missing due to flying out to watch his partner play the tennis while collecting his paycheck. He generally took the piss here
BFS was past his best when he signed for us but really liked him. Last minute winner v Watford was fun.
i remember that being reported, but then thought well he has LVG's blessings for his treatment so didnt get worked up over it
I was more thinking an English audience, they dont care much about German football. The English (which is most of Gary his audience) think it is turd after all. Does Gary his audience want to hear about the German league and how Bayern dominates that league? Or how Schweinsteiger went from a winger to a midfielder? I think his audience would rather hear about Mourinho, Manchester United and Rashford. Those are things they already know some about and what they remember happening. Maybe the World Cup or the CL Finale could have gotten a mention but otherwise i dont think it would appeal that much to the more casual English overlap watcher.
I could be wrong... maybe they do want to know all about Schweisteiger his career but i doubt it.
I dont get this problem that some here have with players doing their recovery somewhere else. For Pogba it was just another easy stick to hit him with because he was already disliked at that stage but it is normal for players these days. Being injuried is bad enough, watching your teammates play football every day while you are out injured makes it even worse. Footballers have claimed that watching your teammates train is hard mentally.
Why wouldnt you want a player to recover in the enviroment he feels most comfortable in? Feeling good, at ease or relax during your recovery should be a good thing. I can imagine it helps with the mental part and might even make a player return faster.
Telling the media that you aren't the type to talk to the media is quite something.
A decade later? Yes, it speaks to his professionalism. I can't imagine many other players handling them with the same professionalism as he did during that crazy situation, which Gary also pointed out is illegal.
On top of that he basically kept his doctor - Müller-Wohlfahrt worked for Bayern, was trusted by him and LvG. It's not surprising that LvG was fine with him going to a doctor he personally knows well and trusts.
Looking at a highlight vid of his time here (for lack of a better word because he had none) but it's crazy when you think about how LVG had the use of Mata, Schweinsteiger, Rooney and Carrick at the same time. We've never had anything like that level of football intelligence together on the pitch since.
And also a decade after Mourinho acknowledged that he did a mistake in treating him this way. What Schweinsteiger meant was that he didn't run to the media to complain about it. Now this is just telling stories after they left this "clash" (or better avoidance of a clash) long behind.
I might just be a massive cynic but the interview seemed to have quite a clear agenda - to remind United fans he played for us and endear him as a true fan and someone who was wronged by the club (which it sounds like he was but as a reaction to him taking the piss, so I'm not hugely sympathetic). He spent so long at Munich and played with so many greats, had so many big games and we hear next to nothing about it. Nothing about the national team either. Add in, Neville is obviously aware Schweinsteiger trained alone (it was a public story) but Murtough is now a free hit after leaving the club so maybe that is why this is coming out now.
I did wonder if this was some soft PR work by Ineos, if Tuchel is incoming as seems to gaining some traction, putting Bastian in the coaching staff would be quite a smart move.
Exactly. What he didn't do was cause a stir when it would have affected the club and the dressing room, even though he could not have been blamed for doing so given the harsh treatment. It would be the equivalent of telling Casemiro next season that he can't enter the dressing room and needs to train with the u16s. Past his best, on a huge contract, but come on.
It was a dick move by Mourinho but he most certainly did not put in 100% effort for us.
Happy to defer to your obviously unbiased take on this subject, Bastian.
I've also just watched his highlight reel from his debut season.
He looked abit chunky, didn't he
Was he great player for us? -Obviously not.
However, his attitude/fandom towards United since then has been very public and in hindsight quite remarkable, given his treatment behind the scenes.
However, his attitude/fandom towards United since then has been very public and in hindsight quite remarkable, given his treatment behind the scenes.
Mourinho can be an cnut but Schweinsteiger was taking the piss with us during his time at United. It wasn't the fact that he was often injured, though that was frustrating enough, it was that there were reports he'd fly off back to Germany or to watch tennis while he's supposed to be recuperating.
that struck me at the time. seeing him live his shorts looked like a skirtI've also just watched his highlight reel from his debut season.
He looked abit chunky, didn't he
Undoubtedly it won't but this revelation should put an end any lingering worshipping of Mourinho amongst red mancs. He treated his players like shit and although discipline is required when expectations are not met, this was a dick move my Jose. Among many others.
I really hope no one here is seriously considering Jose as an option to replace ten Hag.
I really hope no one here is seriously considering Jose as an option to replace ten Hag.
Just highlights what a model pro he was and what a shit show United's brass (and Jose) were... This INEOS clear out is JUST what we needed. My word
Certainly a shit way to be treated but no one is treated that way for a laugh. Worth noting he was also on £180k a week and had played a whopping 18 times in 2 seasons. We essentially have/had a bunch of people who are just looking for the manager to tell them how to do their jobs instead of the other way around. The interview was interesting, it seemed as though he had a lot of knowledge about most things and gave 'politician' answers to some things he didn't want to talk about. Reminded me a lot of Herrera. Says stuff you want to hear because it confirms your bias but not at any point is there any reflection on their own behaviour.
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There are two sides to every story. I doubt very much he was sidelined for no reason.
Stinks of financial reasons to exclude him maybe fees based on appearances but instead of explaining it to him treat him absolutely horrifically. This is the reason managers don’t succeed what the hell is going on at our club?
Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin, what a underwhelming pair they turned out to be