Nicholas Jackson

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Inspired by the recency bias in the Mount thread: Jackson's back to being the best striker Chelsea have had since Costa.
I think you were trying to make a point here, but it backfires a little as considering nkunku has really played for you yet, It's a fair point that Jackson actually is your best striker since Costa....
 

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He scored 12 goals in la liga, 12!
The season before he didn't score any.

The sample size is far too small, and hardly that of a clinical striker. It could have easily just have been a purple patch and what he's showing now is his true level.
You said 12 goals in LA Liga, but he only played only like 5 months. His stats showed that he was the most clinical striker in LA Liga that period.

Today against Brighton he looked the part though. He was very clinical and should have had a hat trick. Had one goal ruled offside from him unfairly.

So maybe it is just me rushing to judgement about his finishing. I still believe he isn't that good of a finisher. If he was, he would be on penalty and free kick duties and also have better conversion rate.

When did he look clinical in la liga?
There was a stat from opta that said jackson was the most clinical striker in that league.


Found it. So this is the data. Anyway, he did looked the part today. Looked very clinical. I believe he is just missing nkunku and another quality attacker.

Palmer - nkunku - mudryk
Jackson

I will want to see how that works. Jackson will be supported with real quality players around him albeit young players.
 

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You said 12 goals in LA Liga, but he only played only like 5 months. His stats showed that he was the most clinical striker in LA Liga that period.

Today against Brighton he looked the part though. He was very clinical and should have had a hat trick. Had one goal ruled offside from him unfairly.

So maybe it is just me rushing to judgement about his finishing. I still believe he isn't that good of a finisher. If he was, he would be on penalty and free kick duties and also have better conversion rate.

I will want to see how that works. Jackson will be supported with real quality players around him albeit young players.
It's too small a sample size though!

At this point he's inferior to somebody like Ollie Watkins!

A front four of ,

Palmer - Nkunku - Mudryk
Jackson

Is a mid table level attack at best. Literally none of the four have proven themselves in the Premier League!
 

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It's too small a sample size though!

At this point he's inferior to somebody like Ollie Watkins!

A front four of ,

Palmer - Nkunku - Mudryk
Jackson

Is a mid table level attack at best. Literally none of the four have proven themselves in the Premier League!
Thats the only place football is played.
Nkunku has proven himself at the top level the rest I agree with
 

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Thats the only place football is played.
Nkunku has proven himself at the top level the rest I agree with
We've seen multiple examples of players that look like world beaters in the Bundesliga that can't cut it in the Premier League though.

I can't see Nkunku being a major success as it's well known that his knees are fecked!
 

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We've seen multiple examples of players that look like world beaters in the Bundesliga that can't cut it in the Premier League though.
And we've seen multiple of examples of players who look like top players in the Bundesliga come and look like top players in the PL, whats your point?
 

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What's the take on this lad then? He looks like a decent striker who can do everything but score. Is it a case of 'it will come' or are we looking at another Werner?
 

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And we've seen multiple of examples of players who look like top players in the Bundesliga come and look like top players in the PL, whats your point?
The ratio of Bundesliga to Premier League misses is far higher than the hits. I think Nkunknu will be a miss if he can actually stay fit enough to play in the Premier League.
 

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The ratio of Bundesliga to Premier League misses is far higher than the hits. I think Nkunknu will be a miss if he can actually stay fit enough to play in the Premier League.
Its ok to think that, but injuries aside, I think he'll be fine.
 

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And we've seen multiple of examples of players who look like top players in the Bundesliga come and look like top players in the PL, whats your point?
That's the same with every top league though. Some of the PL best players are from the Bundesliga. KDB and Haaland are two of the top 3 players in the league. Son is also brilliant.
 

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That's the same with every top league though. Some of the PL best players are from the Bundesliga. KDB and Haaland are two of the top 3 players in the league. Son is also brilliant.
Think that's the point I was making...
 

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What's the take on this lad then? He looks like a decent striker who can do everything but score. Is it a case of 'it will come' or are we looking at another Werner?
Early days still but in my opinion Jackson's general play up until now has been better than early 20/21 Werner.

I know some people harbor a deep dislike for xG stats but Jackson's numbers there look really good, though it has to be said the sample size is still quite small. Of all players in the league who've been even semi-regulars for their team, playing half of the available minutes or more, Jackson's overall xG and xG/90 are both second highest in the PL only behind the freak of nature Haaland. Werner's underlying numbers were never quite as impressive, whether we inspect only his first 5-10 games or the whole 20/21 season.

Last night Jackson had a really good link up with Palmer who played closely behind him. In most games this season now that Nkunku's been out we've had players like Gallagher or Enzo playing the no10 role. They are both players who naturally tend to play the role more like a midfielder rather than a forward so Jackson hasn't really had anyone to link up with in or around the box but against Brighton he seemed to have a pretty good understanding with Palmer so I'm hoping that's something to build on.

To me his problems in front of goal look more like a confidence issue and lack of experience rather than lacking the skills needed so I'd like to think the goals will come eventually but it remains to be seen how things will work out.

Aside from the finishing that needs improving he seems to have some discipline issues too. Getting five yellow cards and a suspension in your first 6 league games is not a particularly great look on the lad.
 

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It's too small a sample size though!

At this point he's inferior to somebody like Ollie Watkins!

A front four of ,

Palmer - Nkunku - Mudryk
Jackson

Is a mid table level attack at best. Literally none of the four have proven themselves in the Premier League!
I cant really say if it is mid table or not. I haven't seen enough of these players link up. But on paper it does look mid table which is why chelsea will probably go in the market in January and get a top striker.

Which will be unfortunate for jackson because he is being judge playing without a 10 or a wide attacker that can link up with him better than sterling, enzo or Gallagher. If chelsea go and get someone like an oshimen which i believe they should, Jackson role will be minimized. But, I believe he can still play an important role in that minimized role, same way that welbeck did for us under sir Alex.

I don't know what will happen to Borja though. The next few months will be important one for him
 

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How did he become one of the most clinical striker in LA Liga for 6 months to one of the the most non-clinical striker in the premier league?
It's called variance.

He ran hot and scored 10 goals in the last 11 matches over a two month span or something in Villarreal. Now he's running cold in Chelsea over a similar timespan.
He is likely somewhere in between.

Your arrogance and smugness while arguing with other people that "don't understand football" doesn't go well together with your total lack of understanding variance and sample sizes in the numbers you are presenting as arguments/evidence for your cases regarding Chelsea/Pochettino/Jackson.
 
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He's like the new Drogba with a bit of Mbappe in there too.
 

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Must be up there with the worst strikers to score a PL hat trick
 

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That finish on the second goal was proper shite. You can usually tell the quality of a striker by how he finishes his chances.
 

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Good strikers finish well, bad strikers don't?

It's that kind of high level insight that always brings me back to this site l.:smirk:
Eh you got me. :lol: I was looking at what I typed out and the thought did cross my mind to properly explain myself.

It's something I was talking to a friend about when Rashford had his goalscoring run last season. The goals he scored weren't as clean or clinical as Robin Van Persie's or Van Nistelrooy's when you watch them on the replays. Not proper in the corner finishes, you know? Too close to the keeper, took an extra touch etc etc but they were going in because football is a funny game.
 

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Eh you got me. :lol: I was looking at what I typed out and the thought did cross my mind to properly explain myself.

It's something I was talking to a friend about when Rashford had his goalscoring run last season. The goals he scored weren't as clean or clinical as Robin Van Persie's or Van Nistelrooy's when you watch them on the replays. Not proper in the corner finishes, you know? Too close to the keeper, took an extra touch etc etc but they were going in because football is a funny game.
I get what you mean, I was being cheeky.

Jackson is never going to RVP or RVN levels of finisher but I'll take a scuffed hat trick away to Spurs any day of the week!
 

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Playing against nine men on a series of 2 v 0 breakaways with the ball fed to him six yards from goal and the keeper out of position this guy is a killer.
 

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Proper shite striker. Someone like prime Aguero would have scored a double hatrick in that game, and easily at that.
 

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I see why he’s become a meme. Reminded me of Adebayor yesterday with the amount of times he was caught offside.
 

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Who is Astrid Wett and why is she sharing that shit with the world? Is it how she makes a living or something?
 

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I've never seen a striker with worse composure. It's like he knows he's Nicolas Jackson and not someone better.