Kieran McKenna | Close to signing long term deal to stay at Ipswich

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McKenna left United because the players wouldnt respect him, they daid he was like a headteacher and laughed about his training sessions being high school level.
If you're sure you best let the United hierarchy know before they make a mistake then.
 

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Calling absolute bullshit on this.

The entire point of the footballing restructure is to establish what our style of play is and set about implementing it. That’s four managers with four different styles and doesn’t make any sense.
 

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So funny isnt it, "decision isnt made until after the final" have to say the breifings have been hilarious.

Why speak to other managers if your not sacking him?
To see what options are out there in case they make that decision? Why would he be speaking to Brighton and Chelsea if he was going to get the United job?
 

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All we need is a great coach and tactician; someone who is focused solely on getting the most of the players available without moaning about needing a £100m signing or other excuses. If the new management team believe McKenna is capable of that then great. Why not go for him now instead of seeing if he is successful elsewhere first.

As for other old fashioned opinions such as some players won't respect him because he's won feck all. Well, that'd be an easy way for the new regime to weed out the cnuts in the squad and replace them with professionals who are capable of behaving like grown ups and following orders
This is it. We've probably had only a short period under Van Gaal where the tactics made the team better than the sum of the parts.
Since then we've relied on star players being in good form and getting us out of dodge.

A manager who can actually get a team system working efficiently would be brilliant.
 

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McKenna left United because the players wouldnt respect him, they daid he was like a headteacher and laughed about his training sessions being high school level.
This is bollocks. McKenna was hugely respected at the club and the club wanted to keep him on board under ten Hag, he turned the offer down because he knew it was time for him to take on a head coach position, same with Carrick.
 

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He'd be crazy to take the United job. We're gunna be in a state of flux (at best) for a couple years. His reputation would take a battering during that time and he'd be lucky to survive.

Not a Tuchel fan but feel he'd be a better option for a couple years whilst things bed in behind the scenes (INEOS, new structure etc).
Probably the best time to join United. The odds of him having a worse campaign than this season is pretty low. If anything this is probably the best time to join united, its likely things will start going up from here rather than down.
 

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This would be the most surreal thing ever in football for me. McKennas family hotel is 5 mile up the road from me, in probably the most remote part of the UK there is. Kieran is an incredibly clever bloke and this would send shockwaves round home if it happened
 

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It''s a big jump, but cannot fault him. He left the club and has been exceptional ever since.

It really is intriguing though, how would he deal with huge egos, high salaries, what kind of players could he attract? Will the fanbase be patient to allow him to build his reputation and style?
 

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Calling absolute bullshit on this.

The entire point of the footballing restructure is to establish what our style of play is and set about implementing it. That’s four managers with four different styles and doesn’t make any sense.
The worrying thing is, there's a fair chance that it's not bullshit.
 

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Calling absolute bullshit on this.

The entire point of the footballing restructure is to establish what our style of play is and set about implementing it. That’s four managers with four different styles and doesn’t make any sense.
Unless we're just not set up well enough yet, which means they aren't capable of doing that yet but still want to replace the manager.
 

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Not followed Ipswich much so admittedly know little about how McKenna’s sides play or their pedigree but is he really all that?

And in Chelsea and United’s case, worth sacking managers that have achieved some reputation across the continent - irrespective of how they have done this season.

Just seems like such a leap and huge gamble, despite his United links.
 

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Calling absolute bullshit on this.

The entire point of the footballing restructure is to establish what our style of play is and set about implementing it. That’s four managers with four different styles and doesn’t make any sense.
Forget Ashworth. Pexbo for DoF.
 

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This is bollocks. McKenna was hugely respected at the club and the club wanted to keep him on board under ten Hag, he turned the offer down because he knew it was time for him to take on a head coach position, same with Carrick.
 

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Not followed Ipswich much so admittedly know little about how McKenna’s sides play or their pedigree but is he really all that?

And in Chelsea and United’s case, worth sacking managers that have achieved some reputation across the continent - irrespective of how they have done this season.

Just seems like such a leap and huge gamble, despite his United links.
Got a league one squad scoring almost 200 goals in 2 seasons. He's legit.

My concern is that he demands a lot of physicality and intensity from his players. Something we've been missing for ages. Seems to be high risk, high rewards ethos so his sides do concede a fair few. A bit of a throw back to the 80s.
 

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Not followed Ipswich much so admittedly know little about how McKenna’s sides play or their pedigree but is he really all that?

And in Chelsea and United’s case, worth sacking managers that have achieved some reputation across the continent - irrespective of how they have done this season.

Just seems like such a leap and huge gamble, despite his United links.
I'd be surprised if he left Ipswich at this stage. He'd be mad to join Chelsea or United, leaving behind all he's built at Portman Road. Let's see how he copes with the top flight and maybe, in the future, he might come here.
 

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Blimey this has gained some traction alright. I'd be all for him coming in.

ETH has failed, unfortuanetly as I do quite like the odd fella, eh, and there aren't any candidates out there without major question marks. I really don't want to see Poch here. Tuchel would be a safer bet than Mckenna for me, but seems unlikely to set us up for any long term success.

It's a gamble and a half, but screw it, we're 8th for feck sakes. Let's roll the dice.
 

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I'd be surprised if he left Ipswich at this stage. He'd be mad to join Chelsea or United, leaving behind all he's built at Portman Road. Let's see how he copes with the top flight and maybe, in the future, he might come here.
He'd be mad to leave Ipswich for one of the biggest clubs in the world? Yes, as it stands, we're not in the best place, but he'd crazier to turn down, what could be, a once in a lifetime opportunity.
 

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Why? He has shown nothing of importance to stick with him through thick and thin.
What had Arteta shown when he first went there? Aside from having been a player there and hanging about at City a bit?

We've tried the ex Worldclass manager who has won loads of stuff in the past both with Van Gaal and Jose. Neither of them were a sustainable source of success.
 

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I'd be surprised if he left Ipswich at this stage. He'd be mad to join Chelsea or United, leaving behind all he's built at Portman Road. Let's see how he copes with the top flight and maybe, in the future, he might come here.
He'd be leaving Ipswich on an absolutely legendary level and would for certain be facing a ceiling of about 16th at best in the premier league next year, more likely a grim battle to not finish bottom.
 

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This will be the first time we’ve hired the person I want as manager in 10 years…provided the idea is to bring in top young talent and build then he’s my top candidate. I still think ETH stays though.
Who had you wanted each time previously?

And how can a guy who takes United to 8th possibly stay?
 

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Got a league one squad scoring almost 200 goals in 2 seasons. He's legit.

My concern is that he demands a lot of physicality and intensity from his players. Something we've been missing for ages. Seems to be high risk, high rewards ethos so his sides do concede a fair few. A bit of a throw back to the 80s.
Sounds like it would be anything but boring - which has largely been the case for the last decade here.

At this stage, United need a reset so I’m not exactly picky on options. We just need to move on from ETH - I hope McKenna’s the real deal if the move comes to fruition.
 

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Doesn't matter what playstyle he has or any manager has. If McTominay is still in the team it shows we haven't changed at all. ETH style looked really good too and yet it's all fallen apart due to the lack of quality in midfield. I do believe if he buys the right CDM and a CM it might just transform us. Otherwise the next manager we'll try their style and the next thing you know. We are doing the same shit playstyle like the last 5 years. Clueless passing with individual brilliance can only get us so far. Well above 9th place.
We don’t need to sell McTominay. Just need someone new to start in midfield. Think of him as the Scottish O’Shea.
 

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The squad needs to be completely gutted for this Mckenna experiment to have any chance of working. Some players just will not listen to him because of their massive egos.
 

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Calling absolute bullshit on this.

The entire point of the footballing restructure is to establish what our style of play is and set about implementing it. That’s four managers with four different styles and doesn’t make any sense.
They do have different style especially Thomas Frank however the other three default formation is 4231 and Frank’s a flat 433, occasionally Tuchel and Poch will play a 343 or 3412 but generally they like McKenna like the double pivot in front of the back 4 as both Poch and McKenna like the inverted full back on one side.


To me it looks like INEOS made their mind up irrespective of the Fa Cup, ETH 19 yes 19, maybe soon to be 20 defeats this season is why he’s being sacked, he’s already had his second chance from December to March and he never took it.

The club simply wants to stop losing matches and it already suggested in the last three games, he’s been told by Wilcox to tighten up the midfield and make the team more compact.

Calling it now, United will play Casemiro, with Amrabat and Mainoo either side in a compact flat midfield three against city and Bruno in a false 9 slightly withdrawn and Rashford and Ganaucho either side trying to play in between City’s FB’s and CB’s

Amad and Hojlund will be on the bench.
McKenna also has a good working knowledge of our youth set up and whose good enough to come through into the first team.
 

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I’m not sure about this. The club is too big the job is too big and we are too unstable at the moment. On top of that some of the egotistical maniacs are still here. And I don’t think McKenna is a fiery character either to deal with such a mess.