2019/20 Rivals - Wolverhampton Wanderers

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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    I don't wanna see Liverpool or Man City. You lot finished 1 place above Wolves so they're your rivals.

    I wont start the Everton thread but someone should.
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    Interested to see how they juggle the Europa League with league games. Burnley didn't have the depth to cope.
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    Oi can I see your loicence for making shit threads?
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    Everton thread will only start after game week 6 when we firmly 12th on 4 points.
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    Bubz27 No I won’t change your tag line

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    This is how people react when you lose your best player and don't have a chance to replace him.
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    Hazard is gone and you have a transfer ban and are heavily favored to appoint a (seemingly talented but inexperienced) manager from the Champo; One of Chelsea or United could definitely get passed by one of Wolves, Everton or Leicester if things break correctly and one of those teams upgrades where they're weakest and can find the sort of talents they did with signings like Jimenez and Moutinho and Richarlison and Digne and Tielemans and Pereira.

    Arsenal and Spurs seem far more stable to me, even if Eriksen goes. Tough to see them falling under 65 points, whereas a nightmare season for Chelsea or United seems far likelier.
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    This is a thread about about your rivals Wolves. Take your Chelsea talk somewhere else.
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    Need to strengthen with quality and quantity to do well next season. See if they can use the Mendes connection to bring in some quality youngsters. I can imagine them signing two CB's and a midfielder at bare minimum.
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    We’re not Wolves level at all and are favourites to go down but I’m strangely optimistic about the big games. Seeing us playing against weakened Man United, Chelsea and Arsenal sides in comparison to how good they were the last time we were in the PL. City and Liverpool will probably tear us up though.
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    Hudson-Odoi and Pulisic are good young wingers, they need to replace Hazard's contribution with a proper star of a 9 and a central mid (or get the mythical breakout Loftus-Cheek season he does actually seem capable of).

    It's like when we replaced Cristiano with a very good RW in Valencia (was in the PFA team of the year, fine 2-way player) but bought Berbatov when had we managed to get Zlatan, Robben or Sneijder instead we'd have probably won the league and likely beaten Bayern to get into the CL semis at least. They're fine at LW, but they need to replace the quality.
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    Chelsea are also Wolves' rival
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    Back on topic, Wolves need a winger and a new 3rd CB.

    Big question seems like it will be if they move to 4 at the back against weaker teams, who they struggled to beat. If so, they might even need 2 wide options:

    ------Jota-Jimenez-----
    LW--Moutinho-Neves-RW

    with it maybe being possible that Doherty is their RW instead of their RB since he's so dodgy defensively but seems to have a proper nose for goal, and since they probably need a 4th fullback anyways and Jonny can play RB with Vinagre or a new LB around, might be how they go.
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    Wolves need a big season I think. Otherwise they surely risk losing their best players
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    Haven't heard any rumors surrounding their best players which is good for them.
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    elmo Can never have too many Eevees

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    Why aren't we in for Neves?

    He'll be our best midfielder apart from the 15 games when Pogba decides he can be bothered to play well.
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    Last season far exceeded all expectations which puts pressure on the next season to continue to improve. I know Nuno will take Europa league seriously and not do a Burnley. Couple of additions to the squad hopefully over the next couple of weeks and we can aim to have another good season and top half finish.
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    Is that even possible, man?
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    I’d expect them to sign Andre Silva and at least bid for Felix.

    They will spend big this summer with the stadium redevelopment starting next summer.
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    Feck off :lol:
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    This thread would be quite funny if it didn’t quickly hit home that it’s true.

    Odds are on another mid season Managerial change and further disruption for us. Maybe we can sign Wolves’ manager and disrupt theirs too?
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    Wolves won't finish ahead of Utd or Chelsea. Their surprise element is gone. Plus Europa will bear a heavy burden. I also expect Leicester to be gunning to finish ahead of them.
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    Rozay Master of Hindsight

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    I must say that I have been asking myself how we expect to be ahead of Wolves, Everton, Leicester and co by targeting only the same players they would sign? I know ‘bigger signings haven’t worked well for us of late, but there are players that we can sign that we have a clear advantage over them for, which if they work, give us an edge. Dybala, for one example - would never join Wolves or Everton. He may join United, and if successful here, is what gives us an advantage over them.

    A summer of James, Godfrey, Longstaff and Collins and co could easily be replicated by these teams too. Then Pogba may go too, then we will be looking at a side that could very easily be playing for Everton or Wolves instead of us.
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    We were poor for most part of the season they were lauded for having brilliant season especially Wolves and we still ended up comfortably ahead of them so question is why on earth posters believe they would get ahead of us unless we completely tank the upcoming season.
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    Rozay Master of Hindsight

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    You have to use your eyes. This was the same logic last season which had Liverpool immediately installed as favourites ahead of us, despite finishing 4th and us finishing 2nd. It was clear who was the better side.

    I don’t think Wolves are better than us, but they easily have the potential to be, on the basis that they have the first key advantage of having an actual team, not just XI players. Their players have a clue what they are doing, their manager sets them up with a plan, which will get another 20% from them rather than just relying on the individual quality of their players, like we do. Secondly, if we lose our world class players and replace them with a bunch of players from the Championship, or middle of the PL players who were themselves in the a Championship the season before (in Maddison’s case, League One in Longstaff’s) - then the clear advantage in quality of footballer we have over Wolves would reduce massively too. After all, they themselves won the Championship, convincingly, just the season before last.
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    We will see unless we are struggling to get past 64points we should be fine in regards to Wolves and Everton and Maddison would be brilliant addition to United and Unless Wolves make big investment in their Squad I don't see them much of a threat they are being seriously overrated on here let's wait and watch.
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    Are they rivals now? I mean, they're a club that currently make big clubs drop points, but...rivals?
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    :lol: @duffer you shithouse.

    In all seriousness, will very much depend on their signings. Have a feeling they could actually be quite shit if they don’t add accordingly.

    IMO, first team players that will need upgrading:

    Bennett - definitely not good enough.
    Moutinho - not sure he’ll have a similar season again, so they’ll need to get someone in to compete.
    Jota - probably an unpopular opinion, but he’s a workhorse more than a good striker.

    Squad players that will need upgrading:

    More depth at wingback if they play that way
    Traore - we all know why.
    Gibbs-white - think he’ll need a loan.

    I think they need more signings than most people will think.
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    Duffer had missed a key word in the title, corrected!
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    I confused with earlier convo before title changed.
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    As crusaders have beaten B36 torshavn as expected tonight. Wolves will begin there Europa league adventure next Thursday against crusaders at molineux with the return leg in Belfast a week later.
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    Can see Wolves comfortably getting to knock out rounds of Europa.

    How much that will affect their league form remains to be seen but last season Chelsea and Arsenal were dropping loads of points on Sundays and they're european stalwarts so fair to say it will impact on their league placing this year.
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    And so far they didn’t signed anyone relevant, with Cavaleiro or Costa already loaned to the Championship.
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    Wasn't there some talk of Diego Costa the other week? Don't really see that as Raul Jimenez is very much their lead striker but yes they certainly need some wide forwards to come in with those two loaned out.
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    Looks like they're signing Patrick Cutrone from AC Milan.

    Would be excited if I was Wolves fan, he looked good in 17/18 (scored 10 goals in Serie A that year) but fell out of favour after they signed Piatek. Still only 21.
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    Nothing in the Diego Costa rumour I don't think. We've had a quiet window although that's pretty much the same everywhere, expecting 2 or 3 at least in early next week, we wouldn't have let Costa and Cavaleiro go otherwise. Hopefully Cutrone will be finalised over the next couple of days, good prospect 21 and only 20m.
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    Seems a weird transfer. Why would he go from back-up at Milan to back-up at Wolves?

    Who do you expect to sign other than him?
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    Milan need to raise funds it seems. He will get starts if he signs Nuno will rotate more this season so he should get plenty of game time. Don't know who else we are signing.
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    Hottest day of the year crusaders fans already in the town centre pubs gonna be a long day.