TLDR: both parties are complicit and give zero fecks.As someone once said, may you live in interesting times.
It will take a generation to clean up this shit. I blame it on Reagan on stigmatising the (Big) Government and Clinton for corporatising it and GW for legalising the corruption the gov't. And time will tell, Trump for destroying it.
2021 American Civil War
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My Mum has genuinely been lost down the rabbit hole, Floridians
Family dinners must be delightful
So basically you are saying they are seeking purpose in life? Commendable to some degree.
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many (most?) of the people identified and arrested from DC weren't remotely poor.
That sucks! I remember back in 2011, my uncle who I was really close to, was next to me jumping up and down celebrating at tanks invading a Syrian city after peaceful protests, it was never the same between us since that day, now I only talk to him at most once a year.My Mum has genuinely been lost down the rabbit hole, Floridians
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How does one feel when you know a lot of your colleagues voted for him?
The very definition of demagoguery
Freedom of speech is not freedom from responsibility.
Yeah, we really shouldn't be surprised by this shit anymore.
It seems little talked about but how close were we to a far more serious event? I suspect we could have ended up with kidnapped and/or murdered senators quite easily. I still can't believe how easy it was for Y'all Qaeda to gain access.
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I saw an article or two on the subject this morning. The Senate was apparently just seconds away from a potential disaster and full breach.
It’s radicalisation, we’ve seen it before.
Barnett adds that he left Pelosi a note on her desk that read, ‘Nancy, Bigo was here, you b*tch’.
https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/man-w...9tIuGBXUh0pAUE6S9lYF52Bkklo8Coc-XQzv2P-TofW38
https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/man-w...9tIuGBXUh0pAUE6S9lYF52Bkklo8Coc-XQzv2P-TofW38
Repeat a lie often enough, and it becomes truth. That's how you get suicide bombers.
We've already seen around the world how news media and social media have been used to manipulate people against their own best interests. As long as lying for profit has no consequences, things will only keep getting worse.
Went for a short walk on the hill behind my house yesterday and on a style I saw a Qanon sticker with a list of these absolutely ridiculous conspiracies.
It’s 100% radicalisation.
They hoping for Trump to mass-pardon the lot?
Arrest all the people involved in the capitol storming and give them 10years each. That will soon make others think twice.
America is quickly becoming as bat shit insane as North Korea.
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Imagine that....
I think it’s absolutely critical that they prosecute all of those who participated, show the people the consequences of such actions are severe.
That's something that crossed my mind. Just imagine someone from a Jihad group went in with a bomb. I know your standard middle Eastern looking person wouldn't have got far with the clan that broke in but white people have been known to be radicalised by Islam.
At this point, every police officer in the land should have to prove where they were on the day.
I’m sure the attending number is ridiculously tiny, but that whole country has a very disturbing trend of facism running through its police force, which is often filled with ex military folks.
It’s a massive problem.
Means nothing if the people who actually instigated it remain untouched. Let’s just take a step back here and pretend we aren’t living in this batshit timeline and it’s 2014 again...the president of United States has spent the last 2 months refusing to accept the results of the election, has phoned up governors threatening them to “find 11k votes” and instructed his supporters to STOP THE STEAL and March on the capital on the day the results are being confirmed. These supporters contained members of armed services, police departments and far right activists. Some of them were armed for war. This is real life - not a 24 episode. And if it was a 24 episode Bauer would probably be fecking MAGA.
For months I’ve been against the idea of locking up your opponents and the idea of social media censoring people - it’s an incredibly dangerous path. However, this is an attempted coup by fascists. There’s no other way to describe it now. All the hyperbolic nonsense about trump being a fascist turned out to not be nonsense. And unless the state comes down hard on all of these seditious cnuts I can’t help but think one of them who took part in the riot will be president in my lifetime. This has eery parallels to the putsch. People are talking about civil war in America - it’s already happening but the State doesn’t seem to even know. And the other side isn’t that small in number anymore. At least 15% seem genuinely batshit crazy. There’s no “reconcile” here - they need to be crushed otherwise it’s just going to grow and grow. America really is fecked unless it takes steps now. It needs to start by expelling Cruz and Hawley, impeaching Trump and then trialling him for fecking treason.
It was easy because they'd been given the green light. Inside job from top to bottom.
The likes of this BBC article about the Sedition Viking aka Qanon Shaman hopefully shows exactly how the movement will eat itself.
"The attack was caused by Antifa infiltrators"
"Naw man, it was me, your buddy J!"
"The attack was caused by Antifa infiltrators"
"Naw man, it was me, your buddy J!"
They might go your doll nikki haley is she?
Actually, it's worth sharing. BBC had arranged to interview him, but he had to go to a voluntary FBI interview that he genuinely seems to think he'd just be walking straight out of.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55606044
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55606044
Antifa are just their go to bad guy/s now. If it wouldn't have been them it would've been Soros or the MSM or Hilary or Obama or fecking Hollywood.
Like their 'dear leader' they don't take any responsibility for their (stupid) actions.
Like their 'dear leader' they don't take any responsibility for their (stupid) actions.
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voluntary FBI interview. Why wasnt he arrested first?
I guess if they can get you to come to them instead of mobilizing to go for you, why not?
He's the main icon of the whole event. I just find it odd its a case of 'when youve got time can you pop over...'
From the released footage and information about pipe bombs, radios/earpieces, those restraining straps...literally feels like it was moments away from happening.
Hats off to the officer who used his firearm, he’s gotta live with the fact he killed someone...but that could have been a pivotal moment doing so.
I think over here the press would have identified whoever is responsible for the security there and they would resign or be sacked. Maybe that's happened in the US, I don't know.
She's got to be in the running
Pence, Cruz and rubio will for sure try... possibly Tom Cotton
And then the big question is will a trump run (don, Don Jnr or ivanka) and if they do will they carry most of the current trump base into 2024... because if they do and lot of people stay in the field they will walk the nomination... its going yo require the likes of haley, pence, cruz and Rubio to drop out early and coalesce around one of the others.
Though who knows we might have musk decide to run (so he can mandate electric cars, funnel all nasa funding to space x) and allow people to use legally use discount codes as names
Nut jobs pretending they have inside intel because of the raid and building Alex Jones careers is as far as this goes imo. Theres no way moderate Republicans votes for this mess. Theyve gone too far now.
How a Republican thinks they can win a swing state after trying to ignore their votes is beyond me.
I have to be honest and say I think there is a very realistic possibility of something bad happening at Bidens inauguration... I'm not sure what crowds are going to be allowed but there must be a real possibility of some trump nutters returning with bombs etc
Could they ban crowds totally? ... would be sensible ref covid anyway
I'm assuming that your uncle is Syrian (given your username), so I'm surprised to hear that. Why was he happy about that?
It would be quite the turnaround if the first woman president was from the GOP immediately after trump.
Contrasting to say the least
I'd be surprised if they get a Republican president in the next decade.
It's probably out of fear, he isn't a decent human being, I remember him saying something like "I hope the regime obliterates them all before they spread around the country", it could be like Stockholm Syndrome? Since he had no direct benefits from the regime except becoming more broke and staying unemployed.
But no matter, fascists tend to make really stupid or cowardly people love them, and I think there are similarities between those people and Trump supporters.
That's a bit grim but probably true, it seems that it stopped the onslaught.