Music A thread with limited appeal...for Rush fans & those who like 'proper' drummers

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I was looking on YouTube for a better video to post on this thread...

https://www.redcafe.net/f8/complete-history-soviet-union-told-via-tetris-308387/

And came across this budding Neil Peart...fair play to him too...enjoy...


One of my favourite tracks...Red Barchetta...


Now Subdivisions...this is class...gives a really good impression of what Peart must go through for a 2 1/2 hours concert.


(limited appeal I know, but those who like Rush or decent drumming will like this).
 

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Depends on your definition of a 'good' drummer really.

One of the best drumming performances I ever saw was Ethan Johns playing with Ray Lamontagne.
 

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John Bonham could do that with half the drums
The amount of drums is not really the point. The lad from def lepard couldn't do it, and he's got half the arms.

Anyways. Brilliant thread idea Colin. I'll be keeping my eye on it. For pure entertainment value. Also, knowing that a little bit ofthe inspirationfor it came from the trees gives me some pleasure.
 

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whenever i need a little "cute" youtube music entertainment vid I usually look up this fella. It took a while to find him doing a RUSH number, but here he is:

 

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Peart's influenced a generation of (largely Metal) drummers. Couldn't get enough of 2112 at one point in time. Very underrated percussionist, from an underrated band.
2112 is a masterwork. I love that album, playing the overture while driving a car down an empty motorway is one of lifes greatest pleasures.
 

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The amount of drums is not really the point. The lad from def lepard couldn't do it, and he's got half the arms.

Anyways. Brilliant thread idea Colin. I'll be keeping my eye on it. For pure entertainment value. Also, knowing that a little bit ofthe inspirationfor it came from the trees gives me some pleasure.
I wasn't being serious you know just remembering what it was like as a kid, you know my drummer is better than your drummer..
 

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I was at a Paul Weller gig last year and thought the drummer was good but then he did some guitar and really blew me away.
 

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'Limited appeal' my arse -- what a brilliant thread! :D

Sorry I don't have a video to share right now - just wanted to say thank you for a great thread and for one of the best thread titles I've ever seen.
 

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Portnoy left Dream Theater? When?
Last week.

MP's press release:

I am about to write something I never imagined I'd ever write:

After 25 years, I have decided to leave Dream Theater....the band I founded, led and truly loved for a quarter of a century.

To many people this will come as a complete shock, and will also likely be misunderstood by some, but please believe me that it is not a hasty decision...it is something I have struggled with for the last year or so....

After having had such amazing experiences playing with Hail, Transatlantic and Avenged Sevenfold this past year, I have sadly come to the conclusion that I have recently had more fun and better personal relations with these other projects than I have for a while now in Dream Theater...

Please don't misinterpret me, I love the DT guys dearly and have a long history, friendship and bond that runs incredibly deep with them...it's just that I think we are in serious need of a little break...

Dream Theater was always my baby...and I nurtured that baby every single day and waking moment of my life since 1985...24/7, 365...never taking time off from DT's never-ending responsibilites (even when the band was "off" between cycles)...working overtime and way beyond the call of duty that most sane people ever would do for a band...

But I've come to the conclusion that the DT machine was starting to burn me out...and I really needed a break from the band in order to save my relationship with the other members and keep my DT spirit hungry and inspired.

We have been on an endless write/record/tour cycle for almost 20 years now (of which I have overseen EVERY aspect without a break) and while a few months apart from each other here & there over the years has been much needed and helpful, I honestly hoped the band could simply agree with me to taking a bit of a "hiatus" to recharge our batteries and "save me from ourselves"...

Sadly, in discussing this with the guys, they determined they do not share my feelings and have decided to continue without me rather than take a breather...I even offered to do some occasional work throughout 2011 against my initial wishes, but it was not to be...

While it truly hurts for me to even think of a Dream Theater without Mike Portnoy (hell, my father named the band!!), I do not want to stand in their way...so I have decided to sacrifice myself and simply leave the band so as to not hold them back against their wishes....

Strangely enough, I just read an interview that I recently did that asked me about the future of DT and I talked about "always following your heart and being true to yourself"...sadly I must say that at this particular moment, my heart is not with Dream Theater...and I would simply be "going through the motions", and would honestly NOT be true to myself if I stayed for the sake of obligation without taking the break I felt I needed.

I wish the guys the best and hope the music and legacy we created together is enjoyed by fans for decades to come...I am proud of every album we made, every song we wrote and every show we played....

I'm sorry to all the disappointed DT fans around the world...I really tried to salvage the situation and make it work...I honestly just wanted a break (not a split)...but happiness cannot be forced, it needs to come from within....

You DT fans are the greatest fans in the world and as you all know, I have always busted my ass for you guys and I hope that you will stay with me on my future musical journey, wherever it may lead me....(and as you all know my work ethic, there will surely be no shortage of future MP projects!)

Sadly...
Your fearless ex-leader and drummer,
MP
Dream Theater's press release:

To all of our loyal fans and friends: It is with profound sadness -- regret -- we announce that Mike Portnoy, our lifelong drummer and friend, has decided to leave Dream Theater. Mike's stature in the band has meant the world to all of us professionally, musically, and personally over the years. There is no dispute: Mike has been a major force within this band.

While it is true that Mike is choosing to pursue other ventures and challenges, we can assure you that Dream Theater will continue to move forward with the same intensity -- and in the same musical tradition -- that you have all helped make so successful, and which is truly gratifying to us.

Fans and friends: File this episode under "Black Clouds and Silver Linings." As planned, we begin recording our newest album in January 2011, and we'll follow that with a full-on world tour. "The Spirit Carries On."

All of us in Dream Theater wholeheartedly wish Mike the best on his musical journey. We have had a long and meaningful career together. It is our true hope that he finds all he is looking for, and that he achieves the happiness he deserves. He will be missed.
 

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Cool...

I owe it to myself to take more interest in King Crimson, since they were the forerunner's of all the music I really like.

Anyway...

Niel Piert at the Buddy Rich memorial concert, Buddy was one of his biggest influences. This is one of the best clips of him I have seen as there are dedicated cameras on him & you can really see the brilliance of his work. Also, it shows he can still do it with a, relatively, small kit...enjoy...


And here is the master himself...Buddy Rich doing a few crowd pleasing tricks...

 

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Mike Portnoy is also a great drummer. Shame he left Dream Theater.

Dream Theatre influenced by Rush of course...I'll watch the rest of that later...
FINALLY got round to watching this, the influence of Peart are clear but he can't top the Professor!

Must be a great concert to attend though, with the crowd participation and all!
 

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Lets not forget that Phil Collins is actually a far more talented drummer than he ever was a singer/songwriter/general tosser. Though I guess the big bucks 'aint in drumming...

With Chester Thompson the long time Genesis live drummer...

 

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Top 10 drummers according to someone, my top 3 would be:

Buddy Rich - amazing speed & stick control, variations in volume and combinations of symbol & snare/tom tom

The Professor (of course) - Uses the kit as a musical instrument rather than a percussion device, adding in different effects to create something quite special.

John Bonham - Pre 'electronic age' uses good variations in volume & intensity

I think Phil Collins should be higher up that list & I'm not sure why Tommy Lee makes an appearance as the clip shown doesn't really show any particular talent. Portnoy is a showman without a doubt, but for me he doesn't demonstrate the the subtleties of my top 3.

Opinions?
 

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Pure indulgence on my part this time but here for a reason also...A bit of film of the old boys enjoying playing their home town of Toronto...

Spirit of Radio live often used to follow Peart's drum solo, well it has most of the times I seen them play anyway, so he's been giving it the full beans for 10 minutes or so & then leads into the intricate opening section. Also shows how the drums form an intricate part of the composition, not just a rhythm section.

 

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Mike Terrana has always struck me as a very good drummer.

Then there's Dave Lombardo (too bad he's with Slayer)