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Not really both are just extremes. Saying he's ace and "Cracking player" is as extreme as you can get, and not different from saying he's absolutely rubbish or brain dead for me. Just one looks positive and the other negative.Well it is. Obviously.
One is giving an opinion. The other is hurling insults.
Saying he's a cracking player is not extreme.Not really both are just extremes. Saying he's ace and "Cracking player" is as extreme as you can get, and not different from saying he's absolutely rubbish or brain dead for me. Just one looks positive and the other negative.
He had a decent 7/10 season. Anything more than that is a stretch. Also he's definitely not a "cracking player". I don't open the game looking forward to watch what he'll do with the ball.
Your post is pretty much "overrating" as you can get. Cracking player, wouldn't take 50m for him, ace defensively, if this isn't overrating a player I don't know what overrating is.Saying he's a cracking player is not extreme.
If someone said they don't believe he's good enough and gave reasons why, that would be something I'd disagree with but I wouldn't take issue with it.
Hurling insults at a young player in his first season is different entirely.
Your logic is all over the place.
Quite extreme.Saying he's a cracking player is not extreme.
If someone said they don't believe he's good enough and gave reasons why, that would be something I'd disagree with but I wouldn't take issue with it.
Hurling insults at a young player in his first season is different entirely.
Your logic is all over the place.
And go out and get who?Quite extreme.
We overpaid for him and I would take 50m now if we are giving the option.
But the point is that its an opinion. As I said, if you don't fancy him and provided reasons as to why, that's fine. Insulting him or any other player, or the manager, is pathetic. You surely agree?Your post is pretty much "overrating" as you can get. Cracking player, wouldn't take 50m for him, ace defensively, if this isn't overrating a player I don't know what overrating is.
Similarly, if you said he had a good season but needs to improve on some of his aspects it would have been as reasonable as what you're asking from his critics, instead you responded by just going to the other extreme and massively overrating him.
He had a decent 7/10 season, but he hasn't been "ace" defensively, hasn't been "cracking player" and overall 50m is still overpaying for him.
That's fine. Do you think its equal to personally insulting him? As that's the debate I'm now having.Quite extreme.
We overpaid for him and I would take 50m now if we are giving the option.
I see both as extremes but of course I'm against insulting any player, don't disagree with that.But the point is that its an opinion. As I said, if you don't fancy him and provided reasons as to why, that's fine. Insulting him or any other player, or the manager, is pathetic. You surely agree?
Because you're currently saying that claiming he's 'brain dead' is on the same level as me believing he's a cracking player, which is perfectly within reason.
That's unacceptable. He isn't good enough but he's not a donkey or brain death.That's fine. Do you think its equal to personally insulting him? As that's the debate I'm now having.
Honestly better players like Hakimi went for less Munier went for free.And go out and get who?
That is pretty lame argument which is common here lately. Regarding every player and coach. There are dozens and dozens full backs on the market. How much any of them would cost or would he be better or not than AWB nobody can't say. We payed 50mil for him, he is young, good in defence, not much in attack. We shall see how he will perform next year.And go out and get who?
We bought him from a Premier League side and he's English. Of course, he costs a lot.That is pretty lame argument which is common here lately. Regarding every player and coach. There are dozens and dozens full backs on the market. How much any of them would cost or would he be better or not than AWB nobody can't say. We payed 50mil for him, he is young, good in defence, not much in attack. We shall see how he will perform next year.
But imo, for 50 mil you buy complete full back. Not fb who can't attack.
Except when it costs a couple of goals to bounce us off a European competition.We bought him from a Premier League side and he's English. Of course, he costs a lot.
We could've done with someone who's better in attack but the right side of defense is far from our biggest concern right now.
Don't think he's solely to blame for that. The fact that we have no decent cover for left-back is far worse IMO. I hope someone can step up and compete with him though as Fosu-Mensah isn't good enough.Except when it costs a couple of goals to bounce us off a European competition.
Is there some rule where full back who is good in attack can't defend? I don't expect from fb to be new Trent or Cafu or Dani Alves. I like fb like Irwin, Shaw, Carvajal. Good on the ball and reliable in defence and attack.I can’t wait for us to sign a fullback who can attack so we can concede more. Yay.
These Trent copies don’t exist for a start.
There you are again. In fairness Jose desperately wanted Maguire too. So he was clearly on the radar.Him and Maguire were terrible buys. That's on Ole.
Don’t get me wrong if there was one available I would be all for it. Like I said I don’t think many exist.Is there some rule where full back who is good in attack can't defend? I don't expect from fb to be new Trent or Cafu or Dani Alves. I like fb like Irwin, Shaw, Carvajal. Good on the ball and reliable in defence and attack.
Yeah, he's no Danny Simpson.We won’t win a premier league title with Aaron Wan-Bissaka as starting right back.
This day & age full backs have to be able to play football. He can’t
He was never brilliant defensively, it was the classical ‘new signing syndrome’ that every player gets (like how Darmian was a classical Italian defender cause he once defended well a corner). AWB has the Spider-Man tackle but the mediocre positioning and awful ability in aerial duels was always there (and of course, his main weakness that he is just awful on the ball).Not sure what's happened to him, he was brilliant defensively before the lockdown albeit average going forward. Now he can barely defend and is even worse going forward. Looks like he's lost confidence to me.
I would love to see him in a direct battle against Neymar.The CL next season, every weakness he has will be thoroughly exploited.
They replaced Young and Smalling, when not Jones and Rojo, that's not saying much. We won't win anything with both as starters.There you are again. In fairness Jose desperately wanted Maguire too. So he was clearly on the radar.
Neither are perfect but they have considerably improved Utd.
He is not great defensively he was poor offensively but his limitations as a defender are also being exploited more and more as the season has progressed he is young so there is a possibility he would improve ,but I don't think we would lose much if we bring in attacking fullback if he continues in the same vein.I can’t wait for us to sign a fullback who can attack so we can concede more. Yay.
These Trent copies don’t exist for a start.
That's my biggest heart break. Not often you go looking for an upgrade on a 55m great British pounds signing after just a single season.He was never brilliant defensively, it was the classical ‘new signing syndrome’ that every player gets (like how Darmian was a classical Italian defender cause he once defended well a corner). AWB has the Spider-Man tackle but the mediocre positioning and awful ability in aerial duels was always there (and of course, his main weakness that he is just awful on the ball).
Once some time passed, he got exposed for what he is. A decent defender with an amazing attribute but who has serious limitations defensively and who is useless going forward. If we paid 20m for him to be a squad player it would have been grand, for 55m though, we got robbed. And willingly so.
And how would you describe the fundamentals of his position?AWB the entire season. If you understand the fundamentals of his position he performs them well enough with respect to his attacking duties week in week out.
I doubt someone like Sancho will enjoy playing with him. He looks so limited on the ball that I sometimes wonder if he is premier league quality.We need a proper RW infront of him, he can't provide width and it hurts us.
You say that in jest but the point is we can't win the league playing lime Leceister city where Simpson was not asked to be good in tight spaces and going forward. Man Utd won't play like Leicester, hence the need to get someone technically proficient on the ball.Yeah, he's no Danny Simpson.
Only people thinking that don't understand the game. You can't get player of the year for being a good tackler. He's poor or awful at every other aspect to his game. It's been evident since way before lockdown as I and a few others on this thread called him out for it. Because he's a new signing people got carried away though.I did say it was. Right there in the OP.
Weird, when there was a time this season where he was contender for player of the season for us before Bruno came in. Or maybe I was just imagining it.
