Yep, close calls that can go either way are seemingly never given our way. Even the Bruno goal had calls of its offside, the rules are wrong.Agree with you. But us having the lowest number of penalties between all PL clubs is strange and tells that we were on the unlucky side of the decisions more than the lucky one specially talking about an attacking Premier league team.
Basically this.Referees want to play it safe, there is no agenda. It is safe to give a decision against United as there is no back lash in the media and ETH doesn't play the mind games with the referees. The Bruno goal was talked about for a week on every show, referees want to avoid such scrutiny.
The players have to be in the box to get a penalty, we haven't had the ball in the box anywhere near as much as we used to so logic says we'd get less penaltiesAgree with you. But us having the lowest number of penalties between all PL clubs is strange and tells that we were on the unlucky side of the decisions more than the lucky one specially talking about an attacking Premier league team.
Compared to Liverpool, yesDo people seriously believe referees are deliberately conspiring against us
Conspiring? No, but they are greatly affected by media narratives while also being generally incompetent.Do people seriously believe referees are deliberately conspiring against us
Cheers, the commentator was correct. Forest have had 3 disallowed, us 2 and most other clubs 1-2. So there's only small margins in difference.https://www.espn.co.uk/football/eng...affected-every-premier-league-club-in-2022-23
They track things like VAR actions for each club on there and why goals were ruled out, PL only.
This is a lovely summary. Media do have an ABU agenda as ultimately all other PL clubs' fana between 1990 and 2013 have leftover PTSD (see Jermaine Jenas commentary on United) from our dominance. Media exaggerate every favourable call for us and pressure is on referees to make the "easy" decision and not be discussed for a week.These things do tend to even out over a season, or at least they do for other clubs.
With United though, we get one 50:50 go our way, eg the Rashford offside call - the sort of decision that clubs benefit from all the time - and for the majority of the media, pundits, other fans and managers it’s like the worst thing that has ever happened in the history of football and the worst miscarriage of justice since the Birmingham Six. It will be on the front page of the BBC sport website , there’ll be questions in parliament, and it’ll be trending on social media for a week. Every other detail of the match will be a footnote.
And then, whether consciously or unconsciously, for several weeks after, refs won’t give us a single 50:50 decision. Then months later, after it’s all died down, we’ll get another 50:50 and we get to do it all again.
Meanwhile, when we get a bad call against us (and I don’t mean a 50:50, I mean an actual bad decision) there will be…total silence from everyone except us. MOTD probably won’t even mention it in the highlights.
And the worst thing is, because of the disproportionate attention our (relatively few) favourable calls get, there seems to be a sense among the general public that refs are biased in favour of us, rather than the opposite.
To be honest, I really think it's just the overall standard which is low and a lot of refs being growing up hating United and trying to stick it into us. The twat today deserves to get his ass kicked. Was a stonewall scumbag behaviour..Can anyone really say that something isn’t right about decisions regarding United anymore?!
What about the blatant pen?This seems like a massive overreaction. Didn't see many controversial calls today.
Good wum tbfThis seems like a massive overreaction. Didn't see many controversial calls today.
We had a stonewall penalty not given. Again.This seems like a massive overreaction. Didn't see many controversial calls today.
Which one? Weghorst?What about the blatant pen?
You need to go to Specsavers thenThis seems like a massive overreaction. Didn't see many controversial calls today.
ObviouslyWhich one? Weghorst?
It's exactly this.It's a simple equation: If you give Man Utd a decision it could be a national news item. If you don't give Man Utd a decision nobody but reds gives a toss.
Referees know what the 'safe' call us when it comes to us. That's what we are seeing.
The ABUs in the media have won. The pressure they've put on referees means you can even put United players out for months without getting a card. We will probably only get a pen if an opponent lands a right cross to one of ours in the box.
Could have been given, not stonewall, he went down very easily. Hardly something that warrants these kinds of conspiracy theories.Obviously
You're wrong.Could have been given, not stonewall, he went down very easily. Hardly something that warrants these kinds of conspiracy theories.
I'm not.You're wrong.
You are. It's an absolutely nailed on pen.I'm not.
No, it wasn't.You are. It's an absolutely nailed on pen.
I'm not saying this as a United fan, but objectively speaking, it's a stonewall penalty. I don't see how anyone can see it any other way.Could have been given, not stonewall, he went down very easily. Hardly something that warrants these kinds of conspiracy theories.
Ok. You're clearly a wum. Have a good night.No, it wasn't.
This is fun, your turn now.
Ref spotted.Could have been given, not stonewall, he went down very easily. Hardly something that warrants these kinds of conspiracy theories.
