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Adrien Rabiot | signs 1 year deal at Juventus. See you all next year
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Juventus are going to be pissed with Mama Rabiot.
No deal is good news.
Like the subject too.
Like the subject too.
Very much so.
Arnold and Murtough appear to be totally out of their depth in terms of formulating and implementing a transfer strategy. The one ray of light is that they do seem to have learned not to repeat at least some of their predecessors’ idiocy. I suppose we should be grateful for that.
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They can get fecked
I wouldn't blame him if he did, and believe me nobody is more critical of the owners and the joke of a footballing administration at the club, but I do wonder if part of the reason they appointed him was that in his interview he convinced them that he could largely work with the players that were already there and radically improve them through coaching? If that wasn't the case then I just cannot understand why a) the club identified such a paltry transfer budget following our worst season for god knows how long, b) why ETH agreed to it (it must have been discussed during his interview), c) why we have proceeded at such leisurely pace and d) why - other than de Jong - ETH was happy to bust a fair chunk of the budget on squad players rather than ones who could genuinely change things. Why was ETH so reluctant to speak to Rangnick, who we know had already said that about 10 players needed replacing? To me that smacks of 'I'm going to give everyone a fair chance to impress me', rather than 'I'm going to clear the decks of the shite that have been clogging up the first team for the last few years and build my own team'.
Not sticking the boot in on ETH here - I am absolutely convinced of his coaching ability - but managing a behemoth in decline like United is about much more than coaching. I think he has probably been shocked at the atmosphere, attitude, motivation, morale, lack of tactical awareness (cheers Ole), and general malaise at the club...in which case he maybe should have had that convo with Rangnick and/or taken it more seriously.
So… is mighty Manchester United really not paying silly money for Zidane 2.0 then (some posts going a looong way to morph a donkey into a stallion are pretty funny tbh)… You are truly going to miss a generational talent, you know.
Reports say we were?
This whole window has been a total mess. 2 weeks to go, 2 defeats to middle table teams, one being 4-0 and the other at home, no clear sign of any incoming player, I am worried. Rabiot should never have been on our list, but I came to terms with it because of how bad McFred are and we cannot even close this out. The club will look like heros for not overpaying but they put us in this position in the first place. We need a new footballing director.
Cheers mum 
Good, we need to stop handing out insane contracts to players.
People here cheering not getting this guy but those same people will come on here after a match to moan about the horrific McFred midfield.
Feck me. I'd take anyone. Give me some from the Bayern or Madrid bench. Just anyone but those two clowns.
Feck me. I'd take anyone. Give me some from the Bayern or Madrid bench. Just anyone but those two clowns.
Who in their right mind would make Adrien Rabiot one of their highest earners?
Yeah exactly. This is good news - would have been classic United to panic as we’re under pressure and just whack him on De Gea wages.
There’s a difference between throwing your money at a top class player who needs an extra incentive, and being extorted by Adrien Rabiot’s mum.
Yes. Because feckless spending has been a fantastic strategy for us thus far.
That wouldn’t be relevant, as according to the post you quoted, it’s his agent who is Fellaini in this case. And she seems to have an implacable work ethic.
We are desperate so we'll need to go higher than we'd like but it's right we stop excessive wages. Hopefully a compromise is reached where some of the wages are based on performance clauses such as making it into the CL.
one’s definitely more sexy than the other.
If we made him our best paid player we would be the laughing stock of the world. I mean, even more than we already are.
At this point, I'd rather they feck him off and we get Casemiro instead.
Well walking away seems to have helped. He should be a mid-range earner at our club.
We've moved on to Casemiro, you snooze you lose Rabiot.
we need data analysts to conclude that.
No shit, go read what I said, you literally bolded it, in fact, I'll make it easy for you, what I said:
"The fact we were offering a mediocre player like him such a high salary is a red flag itself." - we were willing to make him one of the highest paid players in the club, which means we were offering a mediocre players a very high salary, the above statement makes me correct, and the below means you're talking out of your ring, which has been a theme of yours this summer.
So no idea why you even replied to me with:
"But we weren't......that's the reason why we pulled out."
One last time if you suffer from selective reading, which it seems you do.
We were offering him a ridiculous wage, he was a greedy cnut and wanted more, so we were extremely lucky to escape from a deal that would hamstring us to another mediocre player for the next 3 years.
Way to go, mom. You just made him an even more hated player with no chance to play the WC.
I'm guessing £150-200k and they wanted north of that.
Both player and agent can remain in Turin. I am delighted they have soured this to the point where a deal cant be made.
As part of the course Veronique unquestiobably demand a hefty agent fee on top of the stupid wage demands for a squad player. Completely out of any semblance of touch with reality.
As part of the course Veronique unquestiobably demand a hefty agent fee on top of the stupid wage demands for a squad player. Completely out of any semblance of touch with reality.
Please let the deal be dead, please let the deal be dead. 
He and his mum are entitled to ask for the highest wage possible. United are entitled to say no thanks.
So we are not mindlessly bending over for a player's wage demands even though we are in a bad situation? Have we actually learned something 
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?Higher than Bruno's wages? Even at his best form, I still think his current wages are too much. Let alone paying more for Rabiot.
Cheers mum! Thanks for making the decision easier!
Cheers mum! Thanks for making the decision easier!
You have no Idea which way round we did things or which players we're actually interested in.
His apparent desire to fleece us into a career-best contract is exactly why business should have been concluded, as much as possible, prior to the season starting. Two bad losses in and were desperate. I’m pleased we’ve said no, mind, but had we made the decision to buy him back in June then he would in all likelihood be here.
Hopefully we don’t become desperate and fall into his demands later in window.
But there's still a chance to sign his mum?
That's how negotiations work. Hope he stays at Juve with his mom.
Best decision we have made this summer. The last thing we need is another deadwood on high wages. While he can be bloody good,it's a risk we are taking.
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