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Tbf to, Sabitzer I reckon he has already demonstrated that that he has what it takes to be a success for, United & that was before his 2 cracking Goals against, Seville & hopfuly he could be just the perfect replacement for the suspended, Fernandes this coming Thursday, providing he manages to recover from what ever knock kept him out of yesterday's game or was that , ETH taking a leaf out of, Fergie's book & just clever way of trying to keep a player fresh & ready for the next big game.
 

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Most Albion fans actually prefer him in a double pivot with Caicedo. They receive the ball from Dunk or the keeper generally, and it’s how we break the lines. He is extremely press resistant and dogged. However, post World Cup, having played as a ten through the tournament and controlled over an hour of a World Cup final, he has played exclusively in that position for us.

De Zerbi said in a press conference it’s where Mac Allister wants to play, and that has dictated his selection there.

His shooting is often wayward, and should’ve had four or five more goals but for poor finishing. That said, he really can pick a pass and runs for days. He has tenacity, desire and excellent close control. His vision is a strength and he is of moderate pace. He doesn’t get skinned when defending and positional shape is superb.

Mac is a trier. He doesn’t have the genius moments of De Bruyne, he is a player who is greater than the sum of his parts.

I would be hesitant to build a team around him, unlike Caicedo, who looks genuinely elite and this is borne out through his stats.

I really like Ale, he is a great cog in the machine - but I’d sell him before losing Caicedo, Mitoma, Ferguson and even March and Dunk. I think he’s one of the more replaceable members of our team.

Good player, won’t let you down wherever he goes. Not elite on his own, but alongside Caicedo or Casemiro holds his own.

Would be an upgrade at number ten on Fernandes (in my opinion).
Fernandes in 2022 and before maybe, but fernandes in 2023 is low key one of the best midfielders on the planet.
 

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Fernandes in 2022 and before maybe, but fernandes in 2023 is low key one of the best midfielders on the planet.
Fair enough, it is just my opinion. If I personally had a choice between the two, I’d pick Mac Allister. No offence meant.
 

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Question is are we looking for that kind of player or someone who can play as 6 and 8
5 options for 3 positions.

Three playmakers
Two holding players

City have:

De Bruyne, Silva and Gundogan

Rodri, Phillips

Arsenal have:

Odegaard, Xhaka, Vieira

Partey, Joginho

Worse case scenario, Gundogan and Xhaka can play as a 6, but its very rare they get used there.
 

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Fair enough, it is just my opinion. If I personally had a choice between the two, I’d pick Mac Allister. No offence meant.
You wouldn't build a team around Mac, but would still feel he'd be an upgrade on Bruno. You must really don't rate the guy.
 

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Signing him makes sense, especially if Bruno playing deeper next to Casemiro is the long-term strategy of Ten Hag. Besides, Mac Allister is perfectly capable of playing in a double pivot as well, so this signing would give is some much needed cover in a couple of positions.

Another plus is that he's already used to playing in teams pressing high up the pitch and is already established in the PL as well.

Good age as well with plenty of room for improvement.

I feel that if it's a direct choice between Liverpool and us, the fact we should be able to offer Champions League football and a move to a team on the up should tip the scales in our favour.

All depends on how much we want him I suppose.
 

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Manchester United and Liverpool are the clubs that are pushing the most for Alexis Mac Allister, who will surely leave Brighton in the summer.

Arsenal is monitoring him, but not advancing firmly for now. What is done will be with the consensus of his current club.
 

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Will be interesting to see what he goes for. I think he's given enough time to the club for Brighton to not want the sums asked for Caicedo.

He's one of those players, I respect and clearly has an impact in every team he plays for, but still not entirely sure how you value him comparatively :lol: .
 

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Brighton would let us have one, maybe 2 at a push of their players. Would it not make more sense to go for Caicedo or Ferguson? Surely fits our needs more.
 

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For me he's Fred with more progressive and consistent passing. He'd be a solid option to have but we really shouldn't break the bank.
 

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how much could he cost? €80M+?
 

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how much could he cost? €80M+?
Whoever offers the most, it’s impossible to say. If you see a tweet from an “ITK” saying “Brighton have set their price at X” you can disregard it. It won’t be below £50m and won’t be above £100m, if that helps?
 

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Signing him makes sense, especially if Bruno playing deeper next to Casemiro is the long-term strategy of Ten Hag. Besides, Mac Allister is perfectly capable of playing in a double pivot as well, so this signing would give is some much needed cover in a couple of positions.

Another plus is that he's already used to playing in teams pressing high up the pitch and is already established in the PL as well.

Good age as well with plenty of room for improvement.

I feel that if it's a direct choice between Liverpool and us, the fact we should be able to offer Champions League football and a move to a team on the up should tip the scales in our favour.

All depends on how much we want him I suppose.
I doubt that's going to be the case. We saw against Forest how good Bruno is in his natural position. Bruno is also too wasteful playing deeper long-term. Ten Hag probably doesn't like either Fred or Sabitzer deeper, which is why it doesn't make sense to sign Sabitzer. Mac Allister being able to play next to Casemiro and be Bruno's backup makes him far more enticing. I agree with most of the rest of your post.
 

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Whoever offers the most, it’s impossible to say. If you see a tweet from an “ITK” saying “Brighton have set their price at X” you can disregard it. It won’t be below £50m and won’t be above £100m, if that helps?
Is there any chance of MacAllister and Caicedo staying next year?
It would be a big step to settle in the Europa League position in the coming years.
 

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Fair enough, it is just my opinion. If I personally had a choice between the two, I’d pick Mac Allister. No offence meant.
So just to be clear...Solly March > Mac Allister > Bruno Fernandes? :lol:
 

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You wouldn't build a team around Mac, but would still feel he'd be an upgrade on Bruno. You must really don't rate the guy.
Opposition fans generally struggle to give too much praise to Bruno because his so-called histrionics are an unlikeable trait. My non-United supporting mates are the same: they're less inclined to give Bruno credit than most other players of his ability, as they struggle separate his off-the-ball histrionics from his on-the-ball ability.

In all honesty, I think most of us have been guilty of that sort of bias. I was the same with Suarez: I would downplay his technical ability because I couldn't stand the fact that he was a diving, biting, racist cheat.
 

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I just don't see it with him at that cost. I don't think he's what we need right now, Caicedo definitely, but I think we can find cheaper alternatives to him.
 

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He won't be as expensive as you all think because I believe after this season he only has 1 year left on his contract and he obviously does not want to stay if reports are to be believed now, they have to cash in.

Caicedo will not leave this summer unless it's an unreal sum because he just signed a new contract, and Ferguson is about to sign a new contract too, we won't be signing him this summer and tbh he could do with staying at Brighton for a couple more seasons at the least.

Ten Hag seems to want to play with a 6 and two 8's if the progression of this season is anything to go by, meaning the signing of MacAllister along with maybe someone to deputise for Casemiro would be 2 excellent midfield additions to replace VDB and McTominay.
 

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Signing him makes sense, especially if Bruno playing deeper next to Casemiro is the long-term strategy of Ten Hag. Besides, Mac Allister is perfectly capable of playing in a double pivot as well, so this signing would give is some much needed cover in a couple of positions.

Another plus is that he's already used to playing in teams pressing high up the pitch and is already established in the PL as well.

Good age as well with plenty of room for improvement.

I feel that if it's a direct choice between Liverpool and us, the fact we should be able to offer Champions League football and a move to a team on the up should tip the scales in our favour.

All depends on how much we want him I suppose.
Bruno definitely won't be playing that deeper role long-term. He only really played there out of necessity while Casemiro and Eriksen were out, now that they're both back there's no reason to drop Bruno deeper. You could see the type of influence he can have further up the pitch against Forest.

As for MacAllister, I'd be pretty ambivalent about signing him. Not a bad player by any means but I just don't think he does that much to improve us either. He'd rotate well with Eriksen but we could make that money go further if we're more targeted with our recruitment, especially for the fee Brighton would ask.
 

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Is there any chance of MacAllister and Caicedo staying next year?
It would be a big step to settle in the Europa League position in the coming years.
I think one will definitely go, I suspect not both. If they do the fees will be extraordinary.
 

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Is there any chance of MacAllister and Caicedo staying next year?
It would be a big step to settle in the Europa League position in the coming years.

Ecuador international Moises Caicedo has signed a new long-term Brighton contract. Caicedo has committed his long-term future to the club by agreeing a new contract that runs until 2027, with a club option for an extra year. [3 Mar 2023]
 

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He won't be as expensive as you all think because I believe after this season he only has 1 year left on his contract and he obviously does not want to stay if reports are to be believed now, they have to cash in.

Caicedo will not leave this summer unless it's an unreal sum because he just signed a new contract, and Ferguson is about to sign a new contract too, we won't be signing him this summer and tbh he could do with staying at Brighton for a couple more seasons at the least.

Ten Hag seems to want to play with a 6 and two 8's if the progression of this season is anything to go by, meaning the signing of MacAllister along with maybe someone to deputise for Casemiro would be 2 excellent midfield additions to replace VDB and McTominay.
Mac Allister signed a new contract prior to the World Cup in October 2022, which expires in June 2025. The club also has a one year extension option.
 

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Yeah just not the type of player we need at all. Would be an expensive bench midfielder like Fred, Sabitzer, Donny. He's not a deep or advanced playmaker. He's an energetic midfielder who pops up in good positions but that's about it.
 

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Yeah just not the type of player we need at all. Would be an expensive bench midfielder like Fred, Sabitzer, Donny. He's not a deep or advanced playmaker. He's an energetic midfielder who pops up in good positions but that's about it.
Think that's underselling him massively. He seems to always be involved in every dangerous move. He fashioned one of the chances of the game too, for Mitoma and spread the play well. I think he'd displace Eriksen.
 

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Don't think we should be in for him. Pretty average player at a premium cost - not the midfielder we need.
 

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Think that's underselling him massively. He seems to always be involved in every dangerous move. He fashioned one of the chances of the game too, for Mitoma and spread the play well. I think he'd displace Eriksen.
And have the exact same flaws. We don’t need his profile of player.
 

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He’s sort of how I felt about Eriksen. No doubt improves us but I’d hope for a higher level player that impacts games more. Maybe a bad take but I still fear how we are without Bruno.
 

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What flaws are they?
Not being an actual central midfielder who plays his best football in a pivot — you only have to look at his defensive stats, they’re better than Eriksen’s but they’re nowwhere near good enough for a deeper role. But more importantly, not being the player who drops deep to instigate buildup in the initial third of the pitch — was quite clearly Caciedo today. If we’re signing any Brighton midfielder it has to be that player

Mac Allister seems like yet another jack of all trades without a specialised position. He retains possession better than Eriksen does and he’s obviously a far better dribbler, but he doesn’t plug that much of a gap to justify the audacious sum of money Brighton would request
 

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He doesn’t move me at all, just doesn’t seem like the profile of midfielder we should be looking for.
 

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Not being an actual central midfielder who plays his best football in a pivot — you only have to look at his defensive stats, they’re better than Eriksen’s but they’re nowwhere near good enough for a deeper role. But more importantly, not being the player who drops deep to instigate buildup in the initial third of the pitch — was quite clearly Caciedo today. If we’re signing any Brighton midfielder it has to be that player

Mac Allister seems like yet another jack of all trades without a specialised position. He retains possession better than Eriksen does and he’s obviously a far better dribbler, but he doesn’t plug that much of a gap to justify the audacious sum of money Brighton would request
We need both in my opinion, considering we play 3 in midfield. I think we would have faired well with someone who could keep the ball higher up the pitch - Casemiro would be fine in the build up. Mac Allister and Lavia would work well and I think we could afford it.
 

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We need both in my opinion, considering we play 3 in midfield. I think we would have faired well with someone who could keep the ball higher up the pitch - Casemiro would be fine in the build up. Mac Allister and Lavia would work well and I think we could afford it.
And Fernandes ends up where, sorry? As I said, I reckon you run into the same pitfalls if you simply replace Eriksen with Mac Allister in our current midfield trio. You need far more of a ball retention pass magnet next to Casemiro and let Fernandes do his thing further up the field.

I like what I’ve seen of Lavia too, though I do think the jump for him would be far far greater than Caciedo who already plays at such a progressive side
 

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As others have said, not what we need. He plays further up the pitch - we need someone who excels deeper.
 

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Definitely don't want, get Caicedo sure but let the scousers pick this lad up
 
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