Same I never rated Reina too highly too. His face always gave the impression he was just guilty of a feck up.
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Clean sheets don't necessarily tell you much about a goalkeeper's quality though. The quality of the team overall comes into that. Oblak for example plays behind a far better defensive unit than De Gea does so you'd expect him to get more clean sheets.
Oh I agree, but it still tells you a decent story that as a defensive unit they're keeping clean sheet after clean sheet. Therefore the keeper isn't making many daft mistakes causing goals.
Clean sheets are just as important as scoring goals imo and Alisson with two different teams is bossing it.
Alisson has been a great addition for Liverpool. He's miles better than anyone they've had in goals for a long time.
That save at the end though, that everyone is raving about, he came out and the ball was kicked straight at him, from point blank range. I cannot understand the talk around that. It was a poor, poor miss.
That save at the end though, that everyone is raving about, he came out and the ball was kicked straight at him, from point blank range. I cannot understand the talk around that. It was a poor, poor miss.
Reina was a good keeper, good enough for a top team, but he was never going to be in the discussions about being the best.
Alisson is a tier above.
Alisson is a tier above.
Yeah I'm not really sure why he's in the discussion here. Alisson is in that top bracket, which is something I don't think could ever be said about Reina.
Oh shit been said already sorry Robin 
I think any keeper that Liverpool have had in the last 5 years would have saved that chance right at the death last night. But the fuss that was made was so extreme. It was straight at him, I'm not sure how much he even knew about it, it was a terrible finish.
Alisson and VVD are godlike presences. Two absolute bears.
Presumably because they have been starved of any real success for ages now. They've won 1 league cup in the past 12 years so Salah winning the best goal of last year was a small bit of comfort for them, poor sods.
Oh shit been said already sorry Robin
I don’t think a lot of people watch enough football to claim who’s the best keeper in the world tbh. If I had to say someone now I’d say De Gea but I don’t watch more than 10 games a season of Oblak or Neuer for example. It’s safe to say Alisson is in one of the, if not the top tier of goalkeepers at the moment, but statements like “best in the world” are just exaggerated at the moment imo.
I remember Krul winning player of the month after a Newcastle match were the opposition shot the ball straight onto his body about 5 times in one match. Now granted, he had a great game, but what's so impressive about failing to get out of the way of a shot from 2 yards out. Honestly, I couldn't have not saved that Milik attempt if I tried. You could've put Plank from Ed, Edd & Eddy on goal and he would've saved it.
I've not even watched 10 Utd games this year. Which is probably why I still have the will to live, tbh.
I don’t think a lot of people watch enough football to claim who’s the best keeper in the world tbh. If I had to say someone now I’d say De Gea but I don’t watch more than 10 games a season of Oblak or Neuer for example. It’s safe to say Alisson is in one of the, if not the top tier of goalkeepers at the moment, but statements like “best in the world” are just exaggerated at the moment imo.
We can't really whine about others over hyping goalies, we call a guy who can't really do anything outside of shot stopping "the best in the world". It's what fans do, not sure why it upsets people.
It was a fine save but not spectacular at all. What was spectacular was the importance and timing of it.
That being said, Alisson has proven to be well worth the money. Adds a calmness to our defence we haven't had in years, is a great shot stopper and almost just as importantly he's brilliant at playing it out from the back which gives us an important tool in keeping possession when under pressure.
That being said, Alisson has proven to be well worth the money. Adds a calmness to our defence we haven't had in years, is a great shot stopper and almost just as importantly he's brilliant at playing it out from the back which gives us an important tool in keeping possession when under pressure.
All this how can Alisson can't be better than De Gea because we've always said he's the best keeper in the world = both are nonsense.
Oblak is a freak of an athlete and goalkeeper and without doubt the best keeper in the world. Just because he doesn't play for a super team or won multiple major trophies or isn't playing on most of our screens doesn't take away from the fact he is without doubt the best in the world.
Alisson = bordering world class since his arrival to Liverpool.
De Gea = also world class but poor this season by his standards. Errors in the world cup and this season for man utd for which other keepers would have been ripped to shreds to.
Oblak is a freak of an athlete and goalkeeper and without doubt the best keeper in the world. Just because he doesn't play for a super team or won multiple major trophies or isn't playing on most of our screens doesn't take away from the fact he is without doubt the best in the world.
Alisson = bordering world class since his arrival to Liverpool.
De Gea = also world class but poor this season by his standards. Errors in the world cup and this season for man utd for which other keepers would have been ripped to shreds to.
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It doesn't make it any more true. Great keeper but let's not go overboard. It's the same with Ederson last year, few good games and he was named the best in the world.
Sadly here we have few Liverpool fans pretending to be United ones.
I just seen highlights; wtf was so special about that save, he just blocked it with his body?
He's the keeper on the best form at the moment, people have short memories and just call him the world's best.
That's what modern football fans are like nowadays unfortunately, look at the VVD thread he makes one mistake and suddenly he's labelled crap and overrated.
That's what modern football fans are like nowadays unfortunately, look at the VVD thread he makes one mistake and suddenly he's labelled crap and overrated.
Is he though? How many games of the other top keepers do you watch?
Oblak made a way more impressive save yesterday for example.
It depends on what the team needs. A dominant team like Barcelona, Bayern or City need a goalie who contribute to the play. They would not benefit from someone like DDG. Liverpool probably also benefit more from Alison that they would from DDG. For United it has been cruical to have the best shotstopper.
He has literally everything in his locker. Apart from that Leicester brain fade which luckily didn't cost us points, he has been near flawless and made huge saves at big moments in big games against Chelsea, Arsenal, Everton and Napoli. Best keeper certainly in the PL at the moment.
This. He's not the best at anything, but he has the most complete locker I think. Not the best with his feet, aerial command or shot stopping, but he makes the top3 in each category imo. I don't think there is another keeper that is that well rounded. De Gea for example would get a 9.5/10 at shot stopping, but would be a 6.5/10 for feet work and physicality. I think Alisson is the only that is 8/10 in all aspects.
It's not hard to work out why they're rating him so highly when you remember who they had in nets previously.
De Gea got half of page praise for this save.
Alisson got around 4 pages(not all were posts praising him admittedly) for one average save.
Manchester United forum.
The thing is that I genuinely expected De Gea to make that save. He regularly makes those kind of amazing saves, so it didn't feel all that special.
So you are saying that people don't expect Alisson to make average saves like that?
Seems like it. Why would people be this amazed otherwise?
He’s obviously decent but he’s not done anything to suggest he’s as incredible as scousers are making out yet.
Saw one on fb use the clean sheet stats to ‘prove’ it even though that has much more to do with a team keeping possession than it does with a keeper.
Saw one on fb use the clean sheet stats to ‘prove’ it even though that has much more to do with a team keeping possession than it does with a keeper.
Anyone trying to say he is the best in the world, or premier league.
Stop. Just stop. I would still take DDG every single day of the week and twice on a sunday. Some of his saves have been routine, and the praise went through the roof. He also has a few clumsy moments in him.
Stop. Just stop. I would still take DDG every single day of the week and twice on a sunday. Some of his saves have been routine, and the praise went through the roof. He also has a few clumsy moments in him.
Never in a million years would Klopp swap his keeper for ours.
We're ecstatic if our keeper catches the ball such is our expectations of goalkeepers.
I was told they were the best team in the world one day before the Champions League final and still the best one day after.
The difference between DDG & Alisson though is that De Gea is called upon more often to make such saves. Which probably explains why Liverpool fans are going a little bit OTT over our man's save last night. It's worth remembering though, the save was made at a time when a Napoli goal would have made it virtually impossible for us to hit back with 2 goals. Had that happened in the first 5 minutes I very much doubt anything would have been made of it regardless if we'd won or lost. So the timing of the save had a lot to do with the reaction, or should I say, perceived overreaction. If he'd turned his back on it & saved it with his arse you'd still get some Liverpool fans claim it as the save of the century.
Liverpool finally got themselves a decent keeper. Annoying that he’s arguably having a better season so far than De Gea. Not that De Gea is having a bad season per se, just not on the same level as he was a couple years ago.