Just thinking, Pellestri is actually 6 months older and with more first team experience and yet he’s been made to learn the ropes in the reserves - it would make me feel that I wasn’t rated or valued as much if the younger Diallo came in and was faststreamed into the first team
Pellestri hasnt looked anywhere near ready for the first team when he’s played for the reserves. We don’t know about Diallo yet.Just thinking, Pellestri is actually 6 months older and with more first team experience and yet he’s been made to learn the ropes in the reserves - it would make me feel that I wasn’t rated or valued as much if the younger Diallo came in and was faststreamed into the first team
I get this mbappe vibe from him, looks very confident and unfazed despite younger, plays with his head up and good awareness of other players.Pellestri hasnt looked anywhere near ready for the first team when he’s played for the reserves. We don’t know about Diallo yet.
It’s based on ability not how long you’ve been at the club. Pellestri isn’t ready yet we don’t know Diallo’s level until he arrives .Pellestri not gonna be happy if Diallo gets a first team appearance before him!
Pellestri is coming into a new continent, one where Diallo has been for a while. Not only is Europe different climate wise to South America, the football is different too.Just thinking, Pellestri is actually 6 months older and with more first team experience and yet he’s been made to learn the ropes in the reserves - it would make me feel that I wasn’t rated or valued as much if the younger Diallo came in and was faststreamed into the first team
We will see...he looks a special talentI get this mbappe vibe from him, looks very confident and unfazed despite younger, plays with his head up and good awareness of other players.
Yeah, and Ole himself said he wants Diallo in to assess him and to bed him into life as a Manchester United player.It’s based on ability not how long you’ve been at the club. Pellestri isn’t ready yet we don’t know Diallo’s level until he arrives .
Dialo has like 55 minutes first team football doesn’t he.Pellestri is coming into a new continent, one where Diallo has been for a while. Not only is Europe different climate wise to South America, the football is different too.
Diallo has first team experience of playing European football against some of the best teams in the world, Pellestri hasn't.
This really isn't tit for tat and just comparing players ages, it's a lot more than that.
Do you say this about EVERY single transfer that comes to United? Do you compare ages and think that one will get more upset than the other?Dialo has like 55 minutes first team football doesn’t he.
Italys climate is closer to South America than Manchester.
I’m struggling why some people are certain Pellestri wouldn’t be a tad upset about seeing his first team chances take a hit. He may or he may not, it’s very debatable, unless you get a quote directly from him!
It makes more sense to use the 2nd half of this season to get him settled into the club and England in readiness for next season.He's flying in tomorrow according to GDS. They also report that Atalanta are still trying to persuade United to send him back on loan for the remainder of the season but it looks a difficult task for the Italian club.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/player-ex...nited-transfer-complicated-agreement-desired/
Especially when you consider he would only have a few appearances during the loan spell. Getting him settled in at the club and a new country is far more important.It makes more sense to use the 2nd half of this season to get him settled into the club and England in readiness for next season.
Blimey you make it sound like an episode of Star Trek.Pellestri is coming into a new continent, one where Diallo has been for a while. Not only is Europe different climate wise to South America, the football is different too.
Diallo has first team experience of playing European football against some of the best teams in the world, Pellestri hasn't.
This really isn't tit for tat and just comparing players ages, it's a lot more than that.
They can feck right offHe's flying in tomorrow according to GDS. They also report that Atalanta are still trying to persuade United to send him back on loan for the remainder of the season but it looks a difficult task for the Italian club.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/player-ex...nited-transfer-complicated-agreement-desired/
Absolutely agree and I would be amazed if we accepted their request.It makes more sense to use the 2nd half of this season to get him settled into the club and England in readiness for next season.
Yeah would be effectively a nice long pre-season for the lad to get familiar with his surroundings and teammates for the start of next season.It makes more sense to use the 2nd half of this season to get him settled into the club and England in readiness for next season.
Not learn a new way of living? Could you please expand on this? Will be very intriguing to read your reply.Blimey you make it sound like an episode of Star Trek.
He needs to physically acclimatise not learn a new way of living.
The ball is still round in Italy. There’s a lot of exaggeration here being thrown out in the name of ‘cautiousness’. He will be involved in the squad when he arrives. The speed at which he establishes himself as a first team regular will depend on how quickly he settles. But he doesn’t need to go and complete some sort of University course before he can set foot on a pitch in England.Not learn a new way of living? Could you please expand on this? Will be very intriguing to read your reply.
Pellistri came from Uruguay.The ball is still round in Italy. There’s a lot of exaggeration here being thrown out in the name of ‘cautiousness’. He will be involved in the squad when he arrives. The speed at which he establishes himself as a first team regular will depend on how quickly he settles. But he doesn’t need to go and complete some sort of University course before he can set foot on a pitch in England.
And Diallo will come from Italy.Pellistri came from Uruguay.
Eh?The ball is still round in Italy. There’s a lot of exaggeration here being thrown out in the name of ‘cautiousness’. He will be involved in the squad when he arrives. The speed at which he establishes himself as a first team regular will depend on how quickly he settles. But he doesn’t need to go and complete some sort of University course before he can set foot on a pitch in England.
The discussion was that Pellestri would need more acclimatisation than Diallo due to culture, weather and style of football. People weren't being cautious about Diallo.And Diallo will come from Italy.
Plenty of people have been cautious about Diallo in this thread. It was them I was referring to. Pellistri was only bought into the conversation in the context of Diallo in the first place.The discussion was that Pellestri would need more acclimatisation than Diallo due to culture, weather and style of football. People weren't being cautious about Diallo.
Yes, but that wasn't the conversation you were responding to.And Diallo will come from Italy.
Yeah, in terms of actual football ability Pellistri has looked really good, I'd say he's been our best attacker for the U23s since he came in, but you can tell a stiff gust of wind would knock him over in the men's game.Blimey you make it sound like an episode of Star Trek.
He needs to physically acclimatise not learn a new way of living.
No I don’t and no it wasn’t me who suggested he may be vexed. I simply agreed with another poster, only to be told I was incorrect as he’ll obviously be happy a far better player may get a chance ahead of him. That obviously goes against how any human who is competitive by nature behaves. But fine you win he’s all good with it!Do you say this about EVERY single transfer that comes to United? Do you compare ages and think that one will get more upset than the other?
For me, it's a given. Everyone, in any walk of life, will measure themselves, subconsciously, to another person of the same age. They will measure their progress compared to someone of the same age.
But the way you made your original point was as though it'd be very harsh on Pellestri from United, if they put Diallo in before him?!
Diallo has played many youth CL games across different countries. So as I mentioned earlier, I wasn't talking just about the climate change from South America to Europe but the football too...even if it's youth level in Europe...including the small amount of time he has played for Atalanta's first team this season and last.
What about Obertan and Bebe?I don't think Nani deserves that 'even'. Better wingers than Nani at Man Utd in PL era: only Giggs, Ronaldo, Beckham, Kanchelskis (?), Rashford. Won 4 PL titles and 1 CL. I'd be very happy indeed with someone who could match that.
Not RashfordI don't think Nani deserves that 'even'. Better wingers than Nani at Man Utd in PL era: only Giggs, Ronaldo, Beckham, Kanchelskis (?), Rashford. Won 4 PL titles and 1 CL. I'd be very happy indeed with someone who could match that.
This is actually trueAny player who gets upset at competition for their place at a club like United should leave. They don't have an elite mentality and will probably sow disharmony as they will see teammates as a threat rather than an ally and we should move on from those personality types..
Wasn't looking to win anything, just debating a subject on a forum. But I'm always happy with a win!No I don’t and no it wasn’t me who suggested he may be vexed. I simply agreed with another poster, only to be told I was incorrect as he’ll obviously be happy a far better player may get a chance ahead of him. That obviously goes against how any human who is competitive by nature behaves. But fine you win he’s all good with it!
No it doesn't.No I don’t and no it wasn’t me who suggested he may be vexed. I simply agreed with another poster, only to be told I was incorrect as he’ll obviously be happy a far better player may get a chance ahead of him. That obviously goes against how any human who is competitive by nature behaves. But fine you win he’s all good with it!
Agree about Nani, I really liked him and never understood people's low ratings for him. I thought he was brilliant and a joy to watch.I can’t believe there are so many of us (the so-called manutd supporters) who ridicule and bash a great servant like Nani!
Yes, he is not mentally as strong as Roy Keane, and needs the coaches’ trust and a consistent run of games to perform well. I know many might just be frustrated and feel that Nani had not truly fulfilled his real potential and not contributed more than what he had done. But, you guys forget he carried us for at least a season?
The harshness shown by those supporters is a disgrace IMO.
Rashford is in the same situation now. With the players and setup we had at that time, Nani played the best on right, but had to be deployed to left as a compromise in order to put Valencia on right. Now, to put pogba on left and Greenwood has still been under studying, we have to deploy Rashford on right. His performance has been harshly bashed by those supporters without even thinking what’s really going on.
I feel so sad about the situation like this. For me, Nani was at least a semi-legend to this club.