Amad Diallo signs for Manchester United

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Made several wrong decisions last night, constantly gave the ball away, missed a golden chance but also chipped in with a good assist and a goal.
This lad is nowhere near ready for the first team this season, he's a long way off.
He couldn't even get a run of games at Atalanta, that alone should be enough to tell you he isn't ready!
Lots to be excited about sure, but not this season, lots to work on.
 

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Made several wrong decisions last night, constantly gave the ball away, missed a golden chance but also chipped in with a good assist and a goal.
This lad is nowhere near ready for the first team this season, he's a long way off.
He couldn't even get a run of games at Atalanta, that alone should be enough to tell you he isn't ready!
Lots to be excited about sure, but not this season, lots to work on.
Are you the guy that keeps bumping the Angel Gomes thread every time he doesn’t have a great game ? If so I think you’re a strange individual.
 

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Are you the guy that keeps bumping the Angel Gomes thread every time he doesn’t have a great game ? If so I think you’re a strange individual.
Yeah, that's me.
Diallo is a class above Gomes for sure, but is a long way off the first team.
Not sure what's strange about that, seem as it appears to be true?!
 

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Some posters just love to be contrarians.
Some posters just love to be realistic! :lol:do you think Diallo is ready for the step up to the first team this season?
 

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Some posters just love to be realistic! :lol:do you think Diallo is ready for the step up to the first team this season?
Not sure about them but I definitely do, I'd actually think you were a troll but you're doubling down.
 

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Some posters just love to be realistic! :lol:do you think Diallo is ready for the step up to the first team this season?
Considering he’s been named in the Europa League squad and plays in a position we currently have no specialists in, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him get game time so we can rest some key players.
 

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Made several wrong decisions last night, constantly gave the ball away, missed a golden chance but also chipped in with a good assist and a goal.
This lad is nowhere near ready for the first team this season, he's a long way off.
He couldn't even get a run of games at Atalanta, that alone should be enough to tell you he isn't ready!
Lots to be excited about sure, but not this season, lots to work on.
You realise he had 3 assists and a goal?

I watched the first 30 mins of the game and I agree he made some poor decisions but it was also clear that he was a level above the others on the pitch and far too good for this level. At that stage, you either send them out on loan or you play them in the first team. He’s absolutely ready to play some minutes and I’m pretty sure that will be the case soon with Ole being impressed in training. You have no idea how he will perform in the first team. Remember that he will play alongside better players and in a more established system which for top talents can give them the opportunity to shine.
 

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Not sure about them but I definitely do, I'd actually think you were a troll but you're doubling down.
That's fair enough if you do.
I don't think he's anywhere near ready personally, be interesting to see if Ole does at any section of the rest of the season.
 

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Considering he’s been named in the Europa League squad and plays in a position we currently have no specialists in, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him get game time so we can rest some key players.
That's a good point, could see him in Europa for a few sub appearances maybe.
 

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Made several wrong decisions last night, constantly gave the ball away, missed a golden chance but also chipped in with a good assist and a goal.
This lad is nowhere near ready for the first team this season, he's a long way off.
He couldn't even get a run of games at Atalanta, that alone should be enough to tell you he isn't ready!
Lots to be excited about sure, but not this season, lots to work on.
It’s actually incredible you can watch him and come to that conclusion. Staggering.
 

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You realise he had 3 assists and a goal?

I watched the first 30 mins of the game and I agree he made some poor decisions but it was also clear that he was a level above the others on the pitch and far too good for this level. At that stage, you either send them out on loan or you play them in the first team. He’s absolutely ready to play some minutes and I’m pretty sure that will be the case soon with Ole being impressed in training. You have no idea how he will perform in the first team. Remember that he will play alongside better players and in a more established system which for top talents can give them the opportunity to shine.
Yeah, agree with all your points and yeah I watched the match so I know he got three assists.
No one knows how he'd perform, but I'd wager his size would be an issue currently, several times last night he backed out of a challenge or wasn't quite strong enough to hold his own, pretty sure that'll be worked on with him.
I can see him in the team next season, and as one other poster pointed out, possibly in the Europa League for a sub appearance this season.
Just don't think he looks quite ready to be in the match day squad yet.
 

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It’s actually incredible you can watch him and come to that conclusion. Staggering.
Not really when that was the case?
I'm not claiming it was a poor performance, he played well, but he did give the ball away a fair bit.
Bruno was getting called out for this left right and centre, not sure why any other player should be any different.
 

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Played well but still a lot to learn.

He's been setup to underwhelm if he gets a chance in the first team due to the over hype on here!

Looks to have a great future ahead, just not right now!
 

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Some posters just love to be realistic! :lol:do you think Diallo is ready for the step up to the first team this season?
Yea, I do. The only thing missing is maybe fitness and match rhythm. He was a bit casual at times yesterday but his decision making was usually spot on.
 

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Made several wrong decisions last night, constantly gave the ball away, missed a golden chance but also chipped in with a good assist and a goal.
This lad is nowhere near ready for the first team this season, he's a long way off.
He couldn't even get a run of games at Atalanta, that alone should be enough to tell you he isn't ready!
Lots to be excited about sure, but not this season, lots to work on.
It’s actually incredible you can watch him and come to that conclusion. Staggering.
That's what I was going to post. But hey everyone can have an opinion. That's what a forum is for. We shall see. Time will tell.

Personally I am very confident he will get game time with first team. Question is if he can show enough to cement his place in first team. To me it's obvious but maybe I'm wrong.
 

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This is the most anticipated debut since Rooney/Ronaldo for me. It may turn out a flop but I can't wait. Actually Pogba the 2nd time was pretty exciting too.
Edit: Come to think of it, Berbatov and BFS was super exciting as well.
 
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Yea, I do. The only thing missing is maybe fitness and match rhythm. He was a bit casual at times yesterday but his decision making was usually spot on.
He's definitely got something about him, looks confident and very skillful.
I'm hoping he can make an impact this season, definitely would be a boost to our balance in the first team having a natural right sided player.
 

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I'm so excited to see him play with the first team, he still looks a little raw but he's impressed me a lot with his decision making and passing in his first two games with the under 23s, which is as important as any other attibutes to make it in the big leagues. I do have to say, though, his dribbling hasn't wowed me the way I was expecting. Anyone else feels the same?
 

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He definitely looks class, my only concern is how slim he looks. He's got the quality but needs to heavily bulk up, I think defenders in the PL will use their physicality on him and run him to the ground.
 

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I'm so excited to see him play with the first team, he still looks a little raw but he's impressed me a lot with his decision making and passing in his first two games with the under 23s, which is as important as any other attibutes to make it in the big leagues. I do have to say, though, his dribbling hasn't wowed me the way I was expecting. Anyone else feels the same?
I think he’s just a very intelligent and economical player. When he gets double or triple marked he realises that the best thing to do is to lay it off to an opponent in space rather than take everyone on by himself. I think at senior level where he’s playing with team-mates that are just as threatening he will have more opportunity for the 1v1 dribbles we’ve seen from him.
 

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Not diallo related as he’s a sure thing but If we are going to be stockpiling expensive youngsters but unable to risk giving them the minutes at senior level to develop then we need a feeder/loan clubs down the divisions or abroad that play at a high enough standard to improve the players and also put them in the shop window. Under 23s is a very poor level and you can only beat what’s in front of you. It may toughen you up for a while but that’s it.No matter what anyone says when you’re 19/20 its sink or swim and plenty of players dominate at that level and then fall way down the levels in the game.

The key is keep challenging and motivating the individual and I don’t see how 2 or 3 seasons getting coddled and kicked at the same time in U23s and leaving on a free is preferable to just taking the risk and loaning out the ones who aren’t good enough or ready to go into the first team. In most cases they would at least be playing senior for the clubs we bought them from in the first place. If you can’t get a game and excel down the divisions then you're not going to make it here either
 

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I'm so excited to see him play with the first team, he still looks a little raw but he's impressed me a lot with his decision making and passing in his first two games with the under 23s, which is as important as any other attibutes to make it in the big leagues. I do have to say, though, his dribbling hasn't wowed me the way I was expecting. Anyone else feels the same?
Yeah but of what I had seen previously dribbling wasn't a major strong point. Not that it's a weakness. He is fine enough though.
 

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I am not saying he will be able to produce crosses like that in the first team but was certainly refreshing to see a wide player capable of delivering a ball into the box and like how he put up his hand to indicate where he wanted to put it
 

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I'd be surprised if Amad didn't get some minutes in the first team squad this season. Mostly as a sub. And most likely in the Europa League at first.

He's obviously very raw, and far from the finished product - as every 18 is, including the likes of Rashford, Greenwood, Rooney, Ronaldo, etc. But he's at their level of potential, which is why we've paid a big fee for him.

He's shown enough in his two U23 games to highlight both of those things - raw and needs to improve his decision making, but already very talented and a big threat on the ball.

He's clearly well below Rashford, Martial, Cavani and Greenwood in the pecking order at this stage. But over the course of the second half of the season there'll be opportunities for some of those below them to get some game time, and I'd be just as happy for us to give Amad minutes as James or Mata.

I think Ole will see James as being ahead of Amad at this stage, so I can see him starting games ahead of Amad in the cup / EL. But hopefully there'll also be some opportunities for Amad to get some game time with the first team and see how he adjusts to it.

But he's still very young, and if he can carry on performing well for the U23 in the short term, and gets some opportunities to perform well in cameo appearances for the first team, then that should set him up nicely for starting next season as a full first team squad player.
 

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I'd be surprised if Amad didn't get some minutes in the first team squad this season. Mostly as a sub. And most likely in the Europa League at first.

He's obviously very raw, and far from the finished product - as every 18 is, including the likes of Rashford, Greenwood, Rooney, Ronaldo, etc. But he's at their level of potential, which is why we've paid a big fee for him.

He's shown enough in his two U23 games to highlight both of those things - raw and needs to improve his decision making, but already very talented and a big threat on the ball.

He's clearly well below Rashford, Martial, Cavani and Greenwood in the pecking order at this stage. But over the course of the second half of the season there'll be opportunities for some of those below them to get some game time, and I'd be just as happy for us to give Amad minutes as James or Mata.

I think Ole will see James as being ahead of Amad at this stage, so I can see him starting games ahead of Amad in the cup / EL. But hopefully there'll also be some opportunities for Amad to get some game time with the first team and see how he adjusts to it.

But he's still very young, and if he can carry on performing well for the U23 in the short term, and gets some opportunities to perform well in cameo appearances for the first team, then that should set him up nicely for starting next season as a full first team squad player.
James' best position is on the left-wing whilst Amad is a natural inverted right-winger.
 

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James' best position is on the left-wing whilst Amad is a natural inverted right-winger.
Yeah, if they both played in their stronger positions, that's definitely where they'd start.

But, as with Rashford, they can both start off from the other side - albeit less effectively. And I was just meaning when it's a game that he's giving a chance to either of them then I think, at this stage, Ole might see James as being ahead of Amad for a start as he's a more experienced youngster.

Amad has a lot more potential, but he's a rawer talent still new to the club and English and senior football. So I think Ole will ease him in slowly, and have a little more faith in James at this stage. But I'd love to see him get some game time when he's deemed ready for it.
 

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I'd be surprised if Amad didn't get some minutes in the first team squad this season. Mostly as a sub. And most likely in the Europa League at first.

He's obviously very raw, and far from the finished product - as every 18 is, including the likes of Rashford, Greenwood, Rooney, Ronaldo, etc. But he's at their level of potential, which is why we've paid a big fee for him.

He's shown enough in his two U23 games to highlight both of those things - raw and needs to improve his decision making, but already very talented and a big threat on the ball.

He's clearly well below Rashford, Martial, Cavani and Greenwood in the pecking order at this stage. But over the course of the second half of the season there'll be opportunities for some of those below them to get some game time, and I'd be just as happy for us to give Amad minutes as James or Mata.

I think Ole will see James as being ahead of Amad at this stage, so I can see him starting games ahead of Amad in the cup / EL. But hopefully there'll also be some opportunities for Amad to get some game time with the first team and see how he adjusts to it.

But he's still very young, and if he can carry on performing well for the U23 in the short term, and gets some opportunities to perform well in cameo appearances for the first team, then that should set him up nicely for starting next season as a full first team squad player.
Not that I'm disagreeing but what makes you say he's very raw? That description would usually apply to someone with really poor decision making but Diallo comes across as very mature on the pitch playing with his head up, and if you didn't know his age you wouldn't necessarily guess he was 18 or close to it.
 

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Not that I'm disagreeing but what makes you say he's very raw? That description would usually apply to someone with really poor decision making but Diallo comes across as very mature on the pitch playing with his head up, and if you didn't know his age you wouldn't necessarily guess he was 18 or close to it.
For the same reason I said "all 18 year olds are still raw and far from the finished product, including the likes of Rashford, Greenwood, Rooney, Ronaldo, etc."

Amad, as I said, is hugely talented and at their level of potential. But at 18, and with so few first team minutes under his belt, he's still raw when it comes to experience, decision making, consistency, etc.

But judged as an inexperienced 18 year old then he's already at a very good level - and looks closer to being first team ready than most at that age - and he has huge potential, so I'd love to see him get some first team action in the near future.
 

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Yeah, if they both played in their stronger positions, that's definitely where they'd start.

But, as with Rashford, they can both start off from the other side - albeit less effectively. And I was just meaning when it's a game that he's giving a chance to either of them then I think, at this stage, Ole might see James as being ahead of Amad for a start as he's a more experienced youngster.

Amad has a lot more potential, but he's a rawer talent still new to the club and English and senior football. So I think Ole will ease him in slowly, and have a little more faith in James at this stage. But I'd love to see him get some game time when he's deemed ready for it.
Agree. The coaches see him every day. They do it for a living and have experienced life as a footballer. They know how and when to ease a kid in more than 99.999% of us here. But the genius in absentia syndrome aka RAWK disease is strong here.
 

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Looks classy and tidy from his videos. Very clean touches and movements. He's a nimble fella who can dribble and find a decent cross or through ball, for sure.

But also looks a bit small for the PL, and some of his passes were way too casual and easily intercepted. Didn't see him getting into physical challenges, either.

In the Blackburn video, his interplay with Hannibal was :drool:.