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Maguire is superb, just pays the price with so many fans for not being Virgil van Dijk, which is fecking bizarre as he’s clearly our best defender and the best we’ve had by some distance since Rio/Vidic.
This basically.Anyone who doubted him even before today is an idiot.
How closely do people watch him? Because he doesn’t do the organising of the defence because Lindelof seems to do an awful lot of telling Harry where to be and sorting out peoples positions at set pieces and so on. I’m not a massive fan of either of them but watching them Lindelof is the boss of the two.Maguire's ability to lead and organize a defence cannot be overstated. He is quality.
When was the last time that happened?Are we pretending we haven’t seen games like yesterday with Maguire plenty of times?
He is a good defender, solid most of the time, but has a few glaring weaknesses and it's fair to criticize him when it costs us. I can't think of any top team that he'd walk into, but that doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't have a place here, at least for now.Maguire is superb, just pays the price with so many fans for not being Virgil van Dijk, which is fecking bizarre as he’s clearly our best defender and the best we’ve had by some distance since Rio/Vidic.
Strange view. It's no coincidence that since we signed Maguire United have transformed from 6th to 3rd & 2nd, reached various semi finals and now a final.Are we pretending we haven’t seen games like yesterday with Maguire plenty of times?
Crazy post. He'd literally walk into City's team alongside Dias, Liverpools team alongside VVD, Chelsea, Leicester, etc.He is a good defender, solid most of the time, but has a few glaring weaknesses and it's fair to criticize him when it costs us. I can't think of any top team that he'd walk into, but that doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't have a place here, at least for now.
i hate smalling more than anybody, but Maguire is levels beneath him. Put a healthy Smalling on this squad we still competing with the EPL with city. Maguire is still a huge problem, don't let the injury fool you.He’s so much better than anyone we’ve had since Rio and Vidic, which is scary really.
i hate smalling more than anybody, but Maguire is levels beneath him. Put a healthy Smalling on this squad we still competing with the EPL with city. Maguire is still a huge problem, don't let the injury fool you.
Shaw's been excellent all season, if you'd like to pretend he hasn't off the back of 1 match then by all mean feel free. It's not just RedCafe seeing as he made both Carragher and Neville's TOTS, and I suspect he'll also make the PFA one as well. But yes, only RedCafe rates him. Great post.Mmm…. Sure. Just like Luke Shaw is «world-class» right? This forum is now RAWK pre-success. Very awkward stuff.
Im not sure where to start with this, but no it’s all wrong.i hate smalling more than anybody, but Maguire is levels beneath him. Put a healthy Smalling on this squad we still competing with the EPL with city. Maguire is still a huge problem, don't let the injury fool you.
Don‘t think that is true Dias, Stones and Laporte in front of him. Liverpool yes but so would Phil Jones. Chelsea mmmm don’t see him replacing Thiago or Rudiger but maybe.Crazy post. He'd literally walk into City's team alongside Dias, Liverpools team alongside VVD, Chelsea, Leicester, etc.
You forgot the white text.i hate smalling more than anybody, but Maguire is levels beneath him. Put a healthy Smalling on this squad we still competing with the EPL with city. Maguire is still a huge problem, don't let the injury fool you.
Nope. Stones plays with Dias because he complements him well and they have Laporte on the bench, whose top level was way closer to Van Dijk that Maguire’s ever was.Crazy post. He'd literally walk into City's team alongside Dias, Liverpools team alongside VVD, Chelsea, Leicester, etc.
I agree, I think that is a fair assessment of him.As always, the opinions on Maguire seem to be overcompensating a lot for the sometimes overly harsh criticism that he receives. He’s absolutely crucial to us, but he’s not world-class. He’s a good and reliable defender that we’ve been missing for years, but he’s not capable of transforming the side in a way that Dias/Van Dijk transformed theirs.
Maguire has better defensive stats this season than all 3 or them, they just happen to be playing in a better team overall than Maguire.Don‘t think that is true Dias, Stones and Laporte in front of him. Liverpool yes but so would Phil Jones. Chelsea mmmm don’t see him replacing Thiago or Rudiger but maybe.
That won't happenTo stop making reactive posts every time something happens.
What are "defensive stats"? The likes of Jagielka usually outperformed the likes of Rio Ferdinand in many "defensive stats" if you mean tackles/aerials/blocks etc. CB is just about the most style-dependent position on the football pitch where stats (aside from the basic ones like goals conceded and clean sheets) are pretty much useless as a player's quality assessment tool.Maguire has better defensive stats this season than all 3 or them, they just happen to be playing in a better team overall than Maguire.
He also has the best defensive stats in the league this season for centre back, so I don't see how Rudiger and Silva are better than him.
The answer to that appears to be yes. Usually happens on here to be fair, current assessment of a player is deemed as always applying.Are we pretending we haven’t seen games like yesterday with Maguire plenty of times?
If Bruno got injured we’d just shift Pogba to 10 & play Rash & Greenwood on the wings. I honestly think losing Maguire is the bigger blow.I can understand what you're saying, lack of game time and lack of familiarity with partnerships can make it very hard, especially when in this particular game they were being guarded by a sieve, but Maguire is a really good CB. He has the one weakness regarding his speed and when it's exploited it can look bad, but it doesn't often happen. His leadership, organisational skills and intelligence means that he adds a firmness to the whole backline, and his confidence on the ball makes things a lot easier for those in front of him. Add in his aerial prowess and it means he's a massive miss when not available. He's very good and one of the best in the league.
After Bruno, I'd probably say Maguire is the worst one to be missing for an important match.
And utter shitPerma crocked.
No where on God's green earth is Maguire levels beneath Smalling.i hate smalling more than anybody, but Maguire is levels beneath him. Put a healthy Smalling on this squad we still competing with the EPL with city. Maguire is still a huge problem, don't let the injury fool you.
That comment by him is so ridiculous its worthy of revoking full member status. Never seen a defender who has to rotate his body 180 degrees in a mechanical manner just to make a simple sideways 5 yard pass.No where on God's green earth is Maguire levels beneath Smalling.
ThisAnyone who doubted him even before today is an idiot.
Just watch them and you’ll see the difference.Maguire has better defensive stats this season than all 3 or them, they just happen to be playing in a better team overall than Maguire.
He also has the best defensive stats in the league this season for centre back, so I don't see how Rudiger and Silva are better than him.
Respect this thread.Yeah, I was wrong. Well, he is slow, but yeah, he’s been great lately & is easily our best centre back. I was wrong. What more do you want from me?
He is not average. Enough said about that.People need to chill out. Yes we missed Maguire but I still believe he is a very average player. He is definitely the best of a bad bunch, Bailey and Tuanzabe also don't have any match fitness as they have barely played all year. Lack of rotation and injuries killed this and Fred and Mctominay were simply awful in the middle, gave up possession way to easy. Overall, we didn't show up and was dreadful. That's football for you, it can happen. I wouldn't go around apologising for not liking Maguire though, very weird.