André Onana | signed for United | On a flight to NYC

[Bebestation]

With all the ethical approaches our fans take - should a drug taker be allowed at the club?

 

[Judas]

With all the ethical approaches our fans take - should a drug taker be allowed at the club?

100% especially if he shares them and we become better.

 

[Widow]

He's world class with the ball st his feet and a good keeper all round. He'll be a big improvement.

 

[Catt]

Not feeling this one. I think there are better options without spending as much.

Who?

 

[AlexUTD]

Did you watch the video?

Ten Hag have trained Onana everyday for many years but a youtube video shows more than he knows? Ok..

 

[Judas]

Did you watch the video?

Surely in 2023 you know to take Youtube compilations on footballers with a rather large pinch of salt? It's such a small sample size of what they actually do.

 

[Lash]

With all the ethical approaches our fans take - should a drug taker be allowed at the club?

People didn't give a toss about Rio, so I imagine so.

 

[Widow]

Dave knows his stuff

 

[El Jefe]

Him parrying the ball before catching or clearing seems deliberate too me. Its not ideal but with keepers we tend to be pretty conservative because of how risk averse we want keepers to be. I remember when DDG joined and many pundits and fans would have a go at him for saving so many shots with his feet. Fast forward a few years and we were all praising DDG for this.

For most of those saves there seems a method to the madness. Also not sure what some are seeing from those videos, he looks great at coming for crosses. He's decisive and punches when he should and catches when he should.

Even if he actual shot stopping isn't a real strength the net benefit will be massive with his playing out from the back, sweeping, bravery and claiming of aerial balls.

This seems like a no brainer to me especially at €50m.

 

[Bondi77]

Ten Hag have trained Onana everyday for many years but a youtube video shows more than he knows? Ok..

So the default answer is we trust completely in Erik...seems pretty pointless coming on to a forum if you are incapable of forming your own opinion.

 

[Marcelinho87]

I am honest when I say I have only watched the first two minutes of the video that I posted and the basic error of punching the ball straight back to the six yard box was enough for me to form an opinion.
I did not watch the Chmps league final.
I also read that he was banned while he was at Ajax for drug taking and that is all I know about the bloke.

Then wouldn't it be wise to watch something longer than a whole minute? You can't form an opinion on something or someone's ability in a minute, sorry but it's impossible.

Every goalkeeper in the world will be able to muster a minute of the very same things in that video.

 

[Idxomer]

Him parrying the ball before catching or clearing seems deliberate too me. Its not ideal but with keepers we tend to be pretty conservative because of how risk averse we want keepers to be. I remember when DDG joined and many pundits and fans would have a go at him for saving so many shots with his feet. Fast forward a few years and we were all praising DDG for this.

For most of those saves there seems a method to the madness. Also not sure what some are seeing from those videos, he looks great at coming for crosses. He's decisive and punches when he should and catches when he should.

Even if he actual shot stopping isn't a real strength the net benefit will be massive with his playing out from the back, sweeping, bravery and claiming of aerial balls.

This seems like a no brainer to me especially at €50m.

Yep, Henderson was an improvement a couple of years back because he swept a bit and was more commanding than De Gea. Onana has many more strengths than him. If the pressure of playing for United doesn't get to him, he should be a huge improvement on what we had.

 

[Marcelinho87]

With all the ethical approaches our fans take - should a drug taker be allowed at the club?

Is it really unethical? Did he smash a line or inject himself with heroin? The drug he took is banned in sport sure but it's not a bad drug per se.

Plus UEFA agreed he had not intentionally cheated and agreed it was a mistake but had to uphold the laws, which is fair enough.

CAS also agreed the same hence the reduction.

 

[peridigm]

With all the ethical approaches our fans take - should a drug taker be allowed at the club?

Where do you draw the line on ethics? Several none drug related ethical questions happened in the past and currently.

 

[AlexUTD]

So the default answer is we trust completely in Erik...seems pretty pointless coming on to a forum if you are incapable of forming your own opinion.

Well he knows more than a random bloke on a forum that has seen a youtube video of Onana.

I trust the manager and his judgement, and he knows Onana. How naive i am!

 

[croadyman]

Going by the video he seems weak in his handling/catching and his saves seem to have a tendency to generally go back in dangerous areas.

Yeah will admit that Costa probably has the edge in that aspect of the game

 

[dinostar77]

Good video. I think we could have both onana and de gea. There will be games when your camped out in your own box and need your keeper to be a excellent shot stopper.

There will be games where you want to press high and onana allows that to happen as he his great at being a sweeper-keeper.

Will be interesting to see what utd do.

Wonder if de gea would join inter on a free to replace onana (as inter have financial issues).

 

[Withnail]

Is it really unethical? Did he smash a line or inject himself with heroin? The drug he took is banned in sport sure but it's not a bad drug per se.

Plus UEFA agreed he had not intentionally cheated and agreed it was a mistake but had to uphold the laws, which is fair enough.

CAS also agreed the same hence the reduction.

There was plausible deniability there too with the story about his wife's medication and the similarity to the packet of the pain killers he thought he was taking.

 

[dinostar77]

Didnt realise what a transformational keeper Onana is. "The best choice for a Utd ETH team."

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

With all the ethical approaches our fans take - should a drug taker be allowed at the club?

Are you trying to imply this is on par with another accusation?

 

[croadyman]

Didnt realise what a transformational keeper Onana is. "The best choice for a Utd ETH team."

My only concern is the parrying,however maybe you get that with Costa as well

 

[CM]

Good video. I think we could have both onana and de gea. There will be games when your camped out in your own box and need your keeper to be a excellent shot stopper.

There will be games where you want to press high and onana allows that to happen as he his great at being a sweeper-keeper.

Will be interesting to see what utd do.

Wonder if de gea would join inter on a free to replace onana (as inter have financial issues).

Onana is statistically a much better shot stopper than the current version of De Gea. It's a no contest.

 

[dinostar77]

Onana is statistically a much better shot stopper than the current version of De Gea. It's a no contest.

Not according to the video

 

[Remember the geese]

There will be games when your camped out in your own box and need your keeper to be a excellent shot stopper.

No. We need to be proactive, not reactive.

 

[Marcelinho87]

Not according to the video

Why is this video the be all and end all? I'm sure there are videos out there of him making world class saves too... It's ridiculous to form opinions on videos, always has been.

 

[dinostar77]

Onana dude. Looks the transformational keeper we need. Then a solid no2 if de gea doesnt re-sign.

 

[dinostar77]

Why is this video the be all and end all? I'm sure there are videos out there of him making world class saves too... It's ridiculous to form opinions on videos, always has been.

Tifo I R L from The Atheletic is well known youtube channel. Im going by the video i posted, not videos i havent seen.

 

[croadyman]

Onana dude. Looks the transformational keeper we need. Then a solid no2 if de gea doesnt re-sign.

Maybe that guy from MLS or Georgian one

 

[Ajaxsuarez]

He does have a tendency to push the ball back into positions that look dangerous. It's something that has been commented on in the past. As others said, though, I somehow don't recall that ever actually leading to a goal.

I vaguely remember one. Thought it was against Bayern but that seems to be wrong. Think he made a near impossible save first but then the ball just got punted in from 6 yards. But that's not an uncommon pattern in general

 

[croadyman]

He does have a tendency to push the ball back into positions that look dangerous. It's something that has been commented on in the past. As others said, though, I somehow don't recall that ever actually leading to a goal.

I vaguely remember one. Thought it was against Bayern but that seems to be wrong. Think he made a near impossible save first but then the ball just got punted in from 6 yards. But that's not an uncommon pattern in general

What's he like in terms of coming out of his goal to sweep up or catching crosses

 

[Pintu]

His CL campaign has been elite, with 8 times a clean sheet. And overall highest save percentage of the competition. Also preventing a total of almost 7xG..

MP 13
GA 11
PSxG 17.6
SoTA57
Save% 80.7
GA90 0.85

 

[Glorio]

Do we watch different DDGs? He doesn’t go near a cross unless there isn’t a striker within 30 yards of him.

I'm not referring to gathering crosses, I'm talking about making saves

 

[Rolaholic]

Personally, would have preferred Costa, who although will cost more, is younger and I feel a better keeper than Onana.

Costa shits the bed just as much as DDG in big matches though

 

[croadyman]

Costa shits the bed just as much as DDG in big matches though

Are you talking about the mistake for Portugal in the World Cup or something else

 

[Rolaholic]

Are you talking about the mistake for Portugal in the World Cup or something else

It's been more than 1 mistake Portugal and in the Champions league, he's lacked composure most times I've watched him

 

[croadyman]

It's been more than 1 mistake Portugal and in the Champions league, he's lacked composure most times I've watched him

So Maignan is probably the best all round option

 

[JB7]

I'm not referring to gathering crosses, I'm talking about making saves

That’s wrong as well then. Very few goalkeepers parry as many balls straight back into the six yard box as often as our Dave. It’s been less of an issue this year in fairness because the defenders have been better organised and expected it, so dealt with it more than in previous seasons.

 

[prateik]

He looks great on the ball but I can't find a decent video of him making saves..

someone who has seen him often, is he a good keeper?

 

[dinostar77]

So Maignan is probably the best all round option

Buy Onana would havr the biggest transformational effect on our football.

 

[izak]

We know he's a baller but how good is his shoot stopping ability?