On what basis? As there is absolutely no data to back that up. Did you watch the NF vs Newcastle match? More assists and goal threat in one game than Antony has shown all season. And we paid £80m for Antony vs a youth player on our books
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Chris Wood isn’t good enough for Newcastle either.
Some times when dropping down the leagues, players who aren’t good enough for a big team look better in a system designed for them. Shawcross was a Stoke legend. Perreira is an integral part of Fulham. Elanga will do well at Forest. They’re not good enough for our squad.
And I like Elanga and think this move is good for him.
Not by any current measure since Antony joined us and Elanga left.
Antony of last season was better than Elanga of last season at United. However current Antony is not better than any version of Elanga, anywhere any club. In a World where Antony to United doesn’t happen and we stick with Elanga. There’d have been very little difference to our fortunes.
An assist and another assist to the assist against us. So far.
Why is he celebrating and pointing to his badge when he was leaving? Have some shame. You are not that good.
He was one of the worst I've seen wear a united shirt, Obertan levels.
Ah the old kneejerk 'we should have never sold him!' bollocks. He was fecking shite for us and is shite most times I've seen him for Forest.
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Fair enough.
better than Antony sadly
Yeh exactly, and we're playing shit at the moment which means he'd definitely be even shittier for us now if he was playing.
Yeah fair enough and gotta respect a professional who wanted game time. He’s doing really well this season
I mean he’s crap isn’t he? He runs and puts effort in but that’s all.
Just because United are shite it doesn’t mean he’s a good player, it’s like McTominay for Scotland all over again.
Just because United are shite it doesn’t mean he’s a good player, it’s like McTominay for Scotland all over again.
He is, he isn't good and Forest is his level, but the reality is it's hard for people to grasp this when, as bad as he is, he may do a better job for us than Antony does on the right, who offers absolutely nothing.
The fact that this even needed to be said...
He's doing well, but I really don't rate the bloke whatsoever.
Glad I'm not seeing much revisionism here. Elanga was shite for us and we were pretty much in unison that he should go. I'm glad he's thriving at Forest. The problem isn't his sale but the starters that have gone AWOL (Rashford, Sancho and Martial), and the underwhelming replacements that should be levels above him.
Ah so because a young player was shite for us, he'll never improve. We have so many elite coaches here on the caf.
Yeah, but how would Ten Hag's heroes Antony and Weghorst play if he gave others more minutes?
Pleased to see him doing well. Doesn’t mean he is suddenly good enough for where we hope to be but was a hard worker and good egg, hope he continues to do well there.
He isn't good enough for us. Glad to see him doing good.
He wasn’t good enough for us. But seeing the likes of Antony start for us would make any of Elanga or Sancho believe that they’re unfairly treated. It’s the clubs standards which are in the gutter.
Yeah agree. He’s not good enough for Manchester United however right now he is much better than what we have. It’s a reflection on our standards and our recruitment rather than Elanga’a talent.
The argument here seems to be that he's better than Antony and we should have saved ourselves 80m and invested it where it was really needed. That's an argument I agree with. Elanga is young and still developing - I'd rather have given him a couple of years and signed an 80m DM or CB for example.
Nice to see Elanga doing well. The deal suited all parties and he’s another shining example of the academy.
Garner, Elanga and Mengi all proving to be capable premier league players. Not everyone can always stay at the club and the door is open for a return in the future if they continue to rise.
Meanwhile the academy will continue to produce talents and give as many a path to the first team as possible (a la Garnacho, Mainoo)
Garner, Elanga and Mengi all proving to be capable premier league players. Not everyone can always stay at the club and the door is open for a return in the future if they continue to rise.
Meanwhile the academy will continue to produce talents and give as many a path to the first team as possible (a la Garnacho, Mainoo)
Forest is his level really.
Elanga > Antony
Really that simple, although it doesn't mean he is at the level where we should be looking at.
Really that simple, although it doesn't mean he is at the level where we should be looking at.
He's playing well, credit to him he's making the most of the opportunity he has at Forest to be the main man on a smaller team but I still don't think he'd be of the level we actually require. My only annoyance is we didn't get more than £15m for him.
Always liked him. Shame he didn't work out well here but deserves all the best.
No I don't think he is. He's going to have a good career in the PL.
Just because he wasn't good enough for us doesn't mean he's a shite player. He's only 21 too.
Doubt it, from our academy it's clear that he's way more than just pace. Starting to see it in games now as well, he's winning 50-50's all the time, he's showing his technique much more and his decision making.
He's going to be a top player for Sweden and he'll push his way to a Top 6 side like West Ham.
The lad found his level, happy for him overall.
I think he's a midtable premier league player at best. That isn't a bad level given the bigger spending 7 clubs and then there's teams like Villa this season pushing those too.
And what are we at the moment?
Below midtable level
Just what we need. £70m bid coming.
Always thought people were far too harsh on him, the lad is only 21. Not every player is a world beater at that age. I'd have him over Antony any day of the week
Also, saying he's found his level is so reductive. Forest are a PL team just like we are.
Also, saying he's found his level is so reductive. Forest are a PL team just like we are.
Elanga was decent enough when he first broke into the team under Rangnick. At that point he showed enough to think that he'd end up as a better, stronger and more skilled version of Dan James (although not quite as fast).
However he struggled badly last season and the pressure seemed to get to him, and considering how things have gone this season there's no reason to think he would have done any better. He needed to get out and build himself back up, which he seems to be doing. Good luck to him.
However he struggled badly last season and the pressure seemed to get to him, and considering how things have gone this season there's no reason to think he would have done any better. He needed to get out and build himself back up, which he seems to be doing. Good luck to him.
One of the few players Ragnick thought might have the attitude to make it, alas