It's almost impressive how bad we are at picking up good characters, but what surprises me even more is how we aren't able to see issues with personality while they play for us and can't just move them on before they blow up in our face.
Exactly, that is why I said looking at the player mental state should be as important as their footballing ability. Now with this allegations, it will affect his performance and now ETH will have another distraction to deal with
To be honest that tweet isnt mild. Addressing accusations which are already under investigation with throwaway comments like “is someone checking these players history” gives credibility to accusations. And it’s factually wrong as these accusations are after he joined United. I guess its mild but she knows what she is doing here.
Yea but I don't think the club will risk a big PR issue until this is resolved. The club is already under the spotlight due to Greenwood plus the stuff with the Spanish women's manager means any kind of physical or sexual abuse towards women is going to be a huge topic of conversation (rightfully so I'm my opinion).
I haven’t read through everything but it’s just some random person’s opinion no?
Hers is to me. The rage it has caused is weird.
Yeah 100% the club will be dictated too by shrieky people on twitter, as always.
I agree but I think the line of action probably would be informal checks with a player's former partners and so on. Of course, it is incredibly time-consuming for any club to undertake such checks but you do feel given its the clubs like United potentially taking huge hits of 80m on a player, some extensive background verification might actually be worth looking into?
God, she’s annoying.
How can they foresee that? Have they got some sort of crystal ball?
Even if it is true that she is an "unreliable narrator" on matters of Judaism and what's happening in Middle East, it's irrelevant to her opinion on the Greenwood matter and therefore should be irrelevant to how much "worth" you ascribe to her opinion on the Greenwood matter.
I have a problem with the fact is his ex, so revenge for a broken relationship could be the issue, we can’t accuse him until we really know the true.
What is a domestic abuse expert?
Ok. Thanks for responding mate. I'd be lying if i said I truly understood what you're getting at though, but I'm not keen to labour the point any more than i have. Feeling like I've been labelled some kind of racist and not being able to undesrtand whyi s clearly (who knew?) my redcafe Kryptonite) .On an unrelated note I took a couple of lorezepam I found whilst moving rooms, about 2 hours ago. Which has made this conversation, erm, interesting, to say the least
Proper legal representation is not bad privilege. If anything everyone should be able to have the quality of defense lawyer that rich people can hire.
Some of the allegations date to a time before he was signed and there is public history of an unhappy relationship. These claims are not new, they're just being reiterated. One would assume that the club would take measures to acquire insider info into the personal life of a potential marquee signing to assess for risks and liabilities.
To stop Niccolo having a meltdown, read the bolded again. They didn't say it affects how much worth they ascribe to the Greenwood matter.
The first allegation relates to an incident in a car 2 months before he signed. It was made public 4 months ago. I don’t know how the club are supposed to know what happened in a car that contained two people unless they’ve bugged it.
It was a poor comparison, and made little sense, I'd agree. I think i'm just generally supportive of her Greenwood comments, less so of her Corbyn/antisemitism ones. Not entirely sure that justified me giving myself the world's most unnecessary panic-attack, though!
No they shouldn't be role models but it's not asking to much that they show some awareness of how privileged they are to make a living playing football and behave like decent people.
Would be different if she said she would stop supporting the club if United don't suspend him, but she didn't.
I never said proper legal representation was a bad privilege.
Yeah but over the police and an actual investigation? Who is she saying should call them in?
I did not say the allegations were public, I said the unhealthy nature of the relationship was - just like MG, there are reddit posts about their public fights prior to signing for United. The point of a thorough background check is to assess for risks by finding out about such things.
Nah, what's haunting us is that we seem to have players who might be at odds with the law.
I’m trying to join in!
Apart from the domain of the allegations themselves, I don't see the similarities. Greenwood had far worse evidence made public against him, and unlike Antony, he never denied them. Also, unlike Greenwood, Antony is under investigation not under arrest. The club has no need to suspend him.
Whataboutery is most often seen in 'was it a penalty' arguments and 'Was Jeremy Corbyn stitched up by the Zionists' arguments. In both cases it's embarrassing.
Ah it's no harm to suggest it. It's not just our club or even just our sport.
Can you try to stay on topic?
