I will bet most of us here did something rather stupid at 18. Beautiful girl and a young guy what could go wrong..
Are (some) Manchester United players out of control?
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Genuine question - do other leagues have these issues? I'm thinking they probably do but I don't know not being a native of them foreign places.
France is a given. It's a national pastime to get into a scandal.
France is a given. It's a national pastime to get into a scandal.
Im sure they do but they dont have the British tabloid press to follow their every move.
Discipline is definitely important. And it's important that the club ensure the players don't take things too easy. Some go overboard with the criticism of the outgoing /flashy nature of the new generation but regardless, to be a top team you need players with the right ethic. It's something SAF ensured.
sack ole, sell pogba
We're the Detroit Pistons of the Premier League.
We’re getting a lot of bad press. Ole needs to step up and set some standards on behavior. The man-children seem to need a refresher on the basics of being a responsible adult.
That Marcus Rashford...he's way out of control. Something needs to be done
Yes the other coaches, none of whom its business it is, should be shaming another coach. What horse shit
Dont know what you are laughing at, totally agree with everything he says. Then again with a username like yours can probably imagine there is a fallow plot between your ears
yeah but most of us weren't high profile sports people being paid tens of thousands a week for being amongst the elite at what we do. under the current situation, adhering to biosecure bubbles is all part of being an elite sportsperson, and it would have been drilled into them. also how thick do you have to be to fail to ensure theres no mobilephone footage. or they dont understand / dont give a toss.
He won't like this one bit. And he will undoubtedly react to it.
What exactly should he do, though? This happened while the player was on international duty.
I can't help but wonder whether those who seem in an absolute uproar about this would be fine with Ole benching Mason for a considerable length of time - just to set an example?
Basically, he's a kid who did something very stupid. He's also a kid who happens to be a very talented footballer playing for Manchester United - and who will, undoubtedly, be an asset for said club in the upcoming season.
Thanks for the valued contribution. Yet another 'long-term' poster that hasn't had to go through the newbie system and seems unable to hold a coherent conversation or articulate their viewpoint. Super.
What about:
Hudson-Odoi
Mount
Rice
Walker (twice)
And many others not just in football such as senior politicians etc who have broken the guidelines, many of them much older and supposedly smarter than two 18 year olds.
For the record, also think it’s stupid that in this day and age of social media, people still think they can get away with this.
Even going to family weddings while injured.
We’ll be starting the season with two of our first XI banged up abroad, excellent!
We’ll be starting the season with two of our first XI banged up abroad, excellent!
I heard that the girl in question was part of an Albanian gang.
He does, unfortunately these players have done this whilst not under his 'supervision'. The moment they've stepped away from the club for a moment and they are making these decisions. He can't babysit them but I do hope they are all dropped for the first game at least.
Give Lindelof the captains armband for saving grannies whilst he's at it.
Not getting kicked out of the England squad in disgrace on your first ever international call up is a pretty low bar as far as expectations go. It's quite a big feck up really and raises genuine questions about Greenwood's mentality to any reasonable person, including you would hope himself.
I'm also not sure what it has to do with our "derranged fan base"...do they tell Southgate what behaviour is and isn't acceptable from an 18 year old?
Oh the drama
I mean he is an idiot, not quite sure what the laughing is about, the reality is on any normal given day, this would be a non issue, in the midst of a pandemic, all it takes is for that 1 girl he brings to pass Covid to him, and then he potentially spreads it to the team, the staff etc and then we are off to a pretty shocking start to the season most likely. On top of potentially spreading it to family and friends, other England team mates who then may also go on to spread it to teammates, family and friends etc, you see how this goes? He was dumb, so was Foden.
In disgrace
You been writing for The Sun for long?I'm not sure what Southgate has to do with our fanbase having a meltdown, or does Southgate instruct our fans on how horrified they should be over a dumb decision made by a teenager?
He wasn’t exactly kicked out in joyIn disgrace
I'm not sure what Southgate has to do with our fanbase having a meltdown, or does Southgate instruct our fans on how horrified they should be over a dumb decision made by a teenager?
When MP's are throwing house parties for birthdays during lockdown, shaking hands outside downing Street, cramming 50 MP's into parliament to listen to Boris, is it any surprise the younger generation arn't stern rule followers when country leaders can't even abide them.
That's without mentioning the hundreds of so called 'mature' people cramming into parks because they don't want to wear masks or be controlled.
Stupid, yes but people have made worse mistakes.
That's without mentioning the hundreds of so called 'mature' people cramming into parks because they don't want to wear masks or be controlled.
Stupid, yes but people have made worse mistakes.
Southgate has expelled him from the squad. It's quite a big deal. I'm not sure how there being a reaction to that or criticism aimed at Greenwood comes under the category of "meltdown" or "derranged"
No one's going to want him dropped or turfed out of the club, or suddenly decide he's not worth the hassle, but he's very clearly fecked up and fallen below the required standard attitude wise. As has Bissaka, as has Maguire. When we have the shortest off season ever and even in that time multiple members of our squad manage to make idiots of themselves, it is fair to wonder what on earth they are playing at really.
There's no point moaning about mediocre on field results if you have no problem with mediocre levels of attitude and commitment. It's harsh but that's how it is.
I getthat GReenwood is 18 and this could be a valuable lesson to him that will do him good in the long run, but it's quite important actually that it is exactly that and not a sign of things to come.
Those are the only two options. Joy and disgrace. There's nothing in-between.
Neither of these happened while they were with the club, beside Greenwood did it with Foden, not alone anyway.
Southgate removing him from the squad doesn't equate to him seriously questioning his mentality. You are allowed to harbour an opinion that doesn't only exists at the extreme. You wouldn't consider a speeding ticket a disgrace, would you? Or drinking too much so you have to call in work sick the next day, or smoking a bit of weed. It's a mistake and there is repercussions. Every single person on this forum has made countless mistakes in their lives. Questioning a kids future and integrity at an age where he's still very much learning is just silly.
AWB - Yes
Greenwood and Maguire - hell no.
Greenwood and Foden have done things every boy there age would do however they should not be allowing their room to be recorded. Lesson learned.
Greenwood and Maguire - hell no.
Greenwood and Foden have done things every boy there age would do however they should not be allowing their room to be recorded. Lesson learned.
What was he kicked out in? In your opinion
Not when with the national team or the club. Ole should certainly fine him and give him the hair dryer treatment.
Nothing. Why does he have to be 'kicked out' in anything? He was removed from the squad because he made a mistake, the sort of thing teenagers do on a near daily basis. He'll be reintroduced into the squad at a later date. Thats it. The need for it to be anything more than that is just daft.
Are man utd players out of control?
What do you think, bro?
What do you think, bro?
Ole should be sacked for this.
Give it to Giggsy til end of the season!
Give it to Giggsy til end of the season!
The rate I’m starting to put threads on ignore, I’m going to be seeing match threads from the Fergie era on the front page.
I know you're joking here, but I do actually think I'd take the captaincy off Maguire.
Initially I was against it, but we've just had one too many 'behavioural' issues this summer - and I think an example needs to be set. You could say it's unfortunate that Maguire ends up being the face of that example...but, as captain, and as one of our more senior players, it sends a firm message as to what's expected of and what will be tolerated from players at Manchester United.
Doesn't need to be a big drama, either. Just a firm reminder of consequences and expectations, and then it's over.
Removed, kicked out. Potato tomato.
What he did was wrong, people can make excuses because of his age till the cows come home
He needs a lashing at the very least. I just can't decide how many fingers we should take. I suppose it depends on how many he used.
Do we not need them for throw ins? I guess 4 fingers each is fine.
this thread wtf ? 
