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Arsenal 2023/24 - Born to be runner up

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Which Liverpool likely will, so the question becomes, having set themselves up to be in a prime position to take advantage of Liverpool slipping up, will Arsenal take advantage when it happens? If they don't, we know where they messed up (it ain't the draw at the Etihad). City will likely be on hand to zoom past both of them. If they do, well congrats they have probably won the title.
Every chance that Liverpool won't slip up at all. There definitely should have been a far better balance struck between keeping the back door shut and attempting to win the game. I'd be surprised if that point is enough come the end of the season and the conservative nature of it, rubs salt into the wound.
 

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Every chance that Liverpool won't slip up at all. There definitely should have been a far better balance struck between keeping the back door shut and attempting to win the game. I'd be surprised if that point is enough come the end of the season and the conservative nature of it, rubs salt into the wound.
If Liverpool win every game until the end of the season, then they deserve to be champions. You can look back at every single game you've dropped points in, analyse and wonder if you could have done more. We've dropped points vs Fulham twice, Spurs, Newcastle, Chelsea, Villa, Liverpool, West Ham. All will have some sort of regret, especially the home games vs Fulham & West Ham.

We'd won 8 games in a row to get to the top of the league there, 9 if we'd have beaten City. With 9 games left, your basically saying win 18 games in a row will help you win the league. If only it was that easy eh?

Wondering if there are better things to spend your energy on than arguing whether a 0-0 at the Etihad is a good result for Arsenal on a Man United forum. I've decided yes, many.
Wise decision!
 

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Would have been nice if Villa played that a little smarter. Just saying..
 

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They ended up giving City a chance to catch up on goals too in the end. Should have kept things tight in my opinion...but yes they were always going to struggle.
 

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It's probably true what people say they have the toughest run in but it's really not that frightening on paper, and neither is Liverpool's or City's. Arsenal will be at home to Chelsea, they'll play United on the penultimate game of the season where we'll probably have nothing to play for, the only tricky games that stand out are Spurs away and maybe Wolves away who are a weird team to predict.

Hope they do it this year- feels weird saying that but anyone but City or Liverpool.
 

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It's probably true what people say they have the toughest run in but it's really not that frightening on paper, and neither is Liverpool's or City's. Arsenal will be at home to Chelsea, they'll play United on the penultimate game of the season where we'll probably have nothing to play for, the only tricky games that stand out are Spurs away and maybe Wolves away who are a weird team to predict.

Hope they do it this year- feels weird saying that but anyone but City or Liverpool.
Their GD is like an extra point also
 

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10 Premier League games this calendar year, including against our title rivals in City and Liverpool.

9 wins. 1 draw. 0 losses.

33 goals scored.

4 conceded.
 
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It's probably true what people say they have the toughest run in but it's really not that frightening on paper, and neither is Liverpool's or City's. Arsenal will be at home to Chelsea, they'll play United on the penultimate game of the season where we'll probably have nothing to play for, the only tricky games that stand out are Spurs away and maybe Wolves away who are a weird team to predict.

Hope they do it this year- feels weird saying that but anyone but City or Liverpool.
This is true but surely someone will drop points in a ‘gimme’ - whether Arsenal, City or Liverpool. I’m not having the three of them winning every single game until the end of the season. It’s so demanding, particularly when all three are competing in other competitions. The pressure will surely tell for one if not two.
 

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They are annoyingly very very impressive. You have to give Arteta enormous credit, whether they win the title or not. He’s proven he’s an excellent coach.
 

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They are annoyingly very very impressive. You have to give Arteta enormous credit, whether they win the title or not. He’s proven he’s an excellent coach.
Absolutely. Coming second and then putting on an even better title challenge says a lot about him and the team.
 

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They are annoyingly very very impressive. You have to give Arteta enormous credit, whether they win the title or not. He’s proven he’s an excellent coach.
Agreed. It’s ludicrous that many have said his position should be brought into question if they fail to win the league/a cup this season.

The progress the club has made under him is clear to see. Add a prolific striker to the mix and this side is very scary. They’re already so impressive as it is.
 

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They aren't going away. And look very resilient.

Sometimes missing out on a title shows you what character a manager and team has.
 

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The year Leicester won the league it was Spurs and Leicester challenged the title.
Let's not forget you were considered favourites in February, when Welbeck scored the winner vs Leicester, leaving you in 2nd just 2 points behind them.

Arsenal were smart enough to collapse just early enough to pretend they were never in the race.
 

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Bit worrying he didn't give Kiwior any minutes today. Zinchenko starting against Bayern is making me nervous. Tomiyasu might be short fitness-wise but i'd give him the nod at LB.
 

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Bit worrying he didn't give Kiwior any minutes today. Zinchenko starting against Bayern is making me nervous. Tomiyasu might be short fitness-wise but i'd give him the nod at LB.
I think (hope) its precisely why Zinny was on so Kiwior can be rested.
 

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Bit worrying he didn't give Kiwior any minutes today. Zinchenko starting against Bayern is making me nervous. Tomiyasu might be short fitness-wise but i'd give him the nod at LB.
Bayern are terrible. Fully expect Arsenal to beat them comfortably.
 

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Bit worrying he didn't give Kiwior any minutes today. Zinchenko starting against Bayern is making me nervous. Tomiyasu might be short fitness-wise but i'd give him the nod at LB.
If you don't beat us this round, you never will. The team is in total disarray. Can't remember a worse Bayern team since the dark times of Klinsmann. I think we were 4:0 down to Barcelona within 40 min.
I expect a similar result on Tuesday.
 

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They are annoyingly very very impressive. You have to give Arteta enormous credit, whether they win the title or not. He’s proven he’s an excellent coach.
Yeah, everyone rightly talks about the rebuild Klopp did when you compare his first Liverpool team to his champions league winning team but i have to give Arteta massive credit for making Arsenal serious again. Look at his first line up as manager:

Leno
Maitland-Niles Sokratis Luiz Saka (at LB)
Xhaka Torreira
Ozil
Aubameyang, Lacazette, Nelson​

It's not as bad as Klopp's first line up but it reminds me of some of our teams in the past few years: some star names but it's pretty crappy and flatters to deceive. The board did a great job in getting rid of them even though a few were controversial decisions.
 

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Yeah, everyone rightly talks about the rebuild Klopp did when you compare his first Liverpool team to his champions league winning team but i have to give Arteta massive credit for making Arsenal serious again. Look at his first line up as manager:

Leno
Maitland-Niles Sokratis Luiz Saka (at LB)
Xhaka Torreira
Ozil
Aubameyang, Lacazette, Nelson​

It's not as bad as Klopp's first line up but it reminds me of some of our teams in the past few years: some star names but it's pretty crappy and flatters to deceive. The board did a great job in getting rid of them even though a few were controversial decisions.
Xhaka about to win a league title before him though :cool:
 

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If 2008 was then last season was. Just makes no sense as a statement at all.
 

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Safe to say there well over the Wenger Era. Not took them nowhere near aslong as us after Fergie retired… they’ll challenge for the title every season I believe now, they’ll eventually win 1 even if it’s not this year. There set up nicely with a young hungry team… a few more additions in certain positions and they’ll be world beaters.
 

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It’s interesting how in a relatively short space of time, they have done what United have been unable to do or look anything like being able to do. It wasn’t that many years ago where both clubs were on a par, both big footballing institutions post super managers. United still can’t move on whilst Arsenal have managed to reborn themselves under a very impressive young coach. I scratch my head and ask how have they done it yet we still look a million miles away??
 

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Agreed. It’s ludicrous that many have said his position should be brought into question if they fail to win the league/a cup this season.

The progress the club has made under him is clear to see. Add a prolific striker to the mix and this side is very scary. They’re already so impressive as it is.
There are some crazy Arsenal fans who think that too. Whenever I argue with Arsenal fans about Arsenal, I always find myself defending Arteta from his own fans. It’s quite bizarre actually how he’s still got doubters despite overseeing a very impressive rebuild and turning them into what, a top 5-6 team in Europe.
 

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They are annoyingly very very impressive. You have to give Arteta enormous credit, whether they win the title or not. He’s proven he’s an excellent coach.
Arteta is going all the way to the top. When he replaces Pep at City is anyone's guess but nailed on, it is.
 

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There are some crazy Arsenal fans who think that too. Whenever I argue with Arsenal fans about Arsenal, I always find myself defending Arteta from his own fans. It’s quite bizarre actually how he’s still got doubters despite overseeing a very impressive rebuild and turning them into what, a top 5-6 team in Europe.
I agree, it’s mental. Even worse are the ones that have beef with Edu.
 

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I agree, it’s mental. Even worse are the ones that have beef with Edu.
I was arguing someone today who was saying if Arsenal go trophyless we need to have uncomfortable conversations about Arteta. I was like what if you get to the CL final and lose 1-0 and lose the title on the final day by 1 point. He was like that’s a failure and I realised fundamentally I just view football differently to some people.