Blood Mage
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The best chance for them to win a title in so long... it's going to be beautiful when they bottle it.
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Yeah, I don't buy the too early argument. That suggests that being WC is a matter of reputation rather than performance. If they're playing brilliantly they're world class.I’m not really sure what you’re waffling on about but I think I’ve made my criteria quite clear.
You have a number of potentially world class players but it’s too early yet to put them in that bracket.
Trying to compare Kane and RvP is one of the most bizarre things I’ve seen considering they both actually hit the criteria I’ve suggested.
You’re wrong but entitled to your opinion.Yeah, I don't buy the too early argument. That suggests that being WC is a matter of reputation rather than performance. If they're playing brilliantly they're world class.
Yeah, I don't buy the too early argument. That suggests that being WC is a matter of reputation rather than performance. If they're playing brilliantly they're world class.
I also think it's a little too early to call Saliba world class but I do think he's been the best defender in the league this season. Keep him and Partey fit and I think you'll go all the way.Yeah, I don't buy the too early argument. That suggests that being WC is a matter of reputation rather than performance. If they're playing brilliantly they're world class.
Nope. It’s performing at the top level in international and champions league football as well as a top European league. Or play 10 good games for Arsenal.
If the alternative is City winning another title then I'd sooner Arsenal win it every day of the week and twice on Sunday.The best chance for them to win a title in so long... it's going to be beautiful when they bottle it.
Was Blackburn's title an upset? They spent a lot of money and finished 93/94 season in second place. Leicester was and will remain the biggest upset in league history given the circumstances.If they win the league where will it rank in the premier league years in terms of upsets compared to Blackburn and Leicester?
Why is it? We still have to play city home and away, and games at Anfield & Goodison. Season isn't even halfway yet.The best chance for them to win a title in so long... it's going to be beautiful when they bottle it.
And Almiron and Callum Wilson..
Are Ivan Toney and Mitrovic world class?
He already lost me when saying City only had KDB as a world class player.And Almiron and Callum Wilson..
It’ll be the biggest upset because despite what the media and Arsenal fans will tell you, they just aren’t THAT good. I still expect City to come out on top though come May.If they win the league where will it rank in the premier league years in terms of upsets compared to Blackburn and Leicester?
Leicester were literally 5000-1 with the bookies and in a relegation scrap the season before.It’ll be the biggest upset because despite what the media and Arsenal fans will tell you, they just aren’t THAT good. I still expect City to come out on top though come May.
Sorry.Well that’s a bit silly mate. You can only have 1 world class striker in the world?
No chance. Leicester upset will be the biggest upset for a long long time to the point it might never be repeated with the amount of wealth and power the big teams have.It’ll be the biggest upset because despite what the media and Arsenal fans will tell you, they just aren’t THAT good. I still expect City to come out on top though come May.
He has 21 goals in 23 games at international level? I’m not sure what you’re talking about to be honest.Sorry.
revise to top 5 in the world for that position/role.
being judged on international level is even more silly. player like Haaland will never be world class cos Norway sucks at international level.
as long as he is scoring but Norway doesn't qualify for world cup and euro is ok ?He has 21 goals in 23 games at international level? I’m not sure what you’re talking about to be honest.
He’s delivering in the PL, CL and for his country.
Yes. No one said they have to win the World Cup with their teams. He’s performing at the highest level in each area.as long as he scoring but Norway doesn't qualify for world cup and euro is ok ?
I don’t think anyone is saying that just being successful at international level makes you world class.Sorry.
revise to top 5 in the world for that position/role.
being judged on international level is even more silly. player like Haaland will never be world class cos Norway sucks at international level.
Reminds me of Klose. Is he world class ? I only remember he playing well for the German national team. I can't remember did he replicate the same success at club level.I don’t think anyone is saying that just being successful at international level makes you world class.
There is no rigid criteria to decide which player falls under “world class” as there are so many variables. For instance you may be the best striker in the world today but might not have even been in the top 10 strikers in the world 10 years ago. You might be banging in goals every game at international level but not able to replicate it at club level.
Ultimately, it’s always going to be a matter of opinion as there’s no linear criteria.
The closest way I could imagine to decide if somebody is world class is if they are able to perform at a top league level, international level and champions league level without a drop off in performance level and still able to deliver the same metrics. The problem is not every player gets the opportunity to feature on all those levels so then it comes down to personal opinions.
Inzaghi would be the most unusual one for me. Scored goals at every level but I would never regard him as world class.Reminds me of Klose. Is he world class ? I only remember he playing well for the German national team. I can't remember did he replicate the same success at club level.
How about RVN ?Inzaghi would be the most unusual one for me. Scored goals at every level but I would never regard him as world class.
Van Nistelrooy? Of course he was world class! Surely you agree?How about RVN ?
yes, he was. one of the best finisher.Van Nistelrooy? Of course he was world class! Surely you agree?
Well if your mate says so that must be the case.just asked my friend what's world class to him. He replied " a world class player would be somebody, who can win games himself and consistency ( at least 3 top class seasons).
Hmm not sure that works either as it’s heavily weighted towards forwards. It’s hard for defenders and goal keepers to be world class as they can’t “win” you games.just asked my friend what's world class to him. He replied " a world class player would be somebody, who can win games himself and consistency ( at least 3 top class seasons).
Which is the exact reason I call them insufferable.They do get a little bit carried away considering it’s not even Christmas yet but they are doing well and it’s easy to get caught up in the moment.
Id suggest they just enjoy things as they are rather than trying to declare certain players world class at such an early stage.
Noone asked you to get it.Which is the exact reason I call them insufferable.
They’re team are doing very well but they’re players have to be the best aka how many of their players are World Class etc.
I like the fact opposition fans find this forum a safe space & think some being good content but I will never understand being an opposition fan doing as they do. When United win I don’t think, tell you what let’s head to an Arsenal forum & talk about how World Class Lisandro Martinez is. I simply do not get it.
Jesus and Saka qualify as top players in my book. I'd say even Odegaard is massively underrated after his Real stint. But yes I agree did not expect them to be genuine title contenders. Kudos to Arteta and his team so far. Long way to go though.I'm honestly in shock they are where they are. I know Arteta did a good job last year for most of the year, and they had a great window... But never saw this coming. You still look at their squad and it's not like they have stars everywhere. In fact they don't have a truly "top" player anywhere. Maybe Saliba if it's not too early to say it for him. It's a good squad which you'd think a top 4 fight is their max but they're playing so well together, so you gotta give credit to Arteta.
They've played feck all tough games...I'm honestly in shock they are where they are. I know Arteta did a good job last year for most of the year, and they had a great window... But never saw this coming. You still look at their squad and it's not like they have stars everywhere. In fact they don't have a truly "top" player anywhere. Maybe Saliba if it's not too early to say it for him. It's a good squad which you'd think a top 4 fight is their max but they're playing so well together, so you gotta give credit to Arteta.