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It would be a huge disappointment considering how long they've been on top.
Ofcourse fans who comment with 0 context.Did you see Jose finishing 2nd as a failure?
Of course they will backtrack as they will go back into obscurity for years to come.
Not in the slightest bit worried about City winning the treble. For one thing, they're getting Real in the next round, and even if they do somehow win the treble, it's been done before by us. I'd only be worried if they won the Quadruple.I don't care how deluded their fans are, I still want them to win it. Imagine the scenario where Arsenal win the league or City win the treble!
Now choose your poison!
Whoever wins we lose!
They’re not going to bottle the league by one or two points. If they collapse it’ll be over 4/5 games which allows third and fourth place the chance to close that gap to them.
Dropping off badly is overstating it. After matchweek 19 they had 47 pts. Realistically, they will finish with 88-90 pts. Being 4-6 pts worse off isn’t a catastrophic collapse.Their results have already dropped off badly from the first half of the season. I think it's more likely they will fail to finish in the top four again under Arteta than that they will win the league under him if they fail this year.
There isn’t that many games left. Of course I’m basing it off Arsenal struggling over the next two games but it isn’t that absurd.They need 9 points to guarantee 2nd. Of course they’re finishing top 2.
It’s fairly absurd. They only need 6 points to guarantee 3rd and that’s if Newcastle win every game. I’d wager they finish 3rd if they somehow lost all their games.There isn’t that many games left. Of course I’m basing it off Arsenal struggling over the next two games but it isn’t that absurd.
I thought it was 50? Over 2.6 points a game. Since then just 2 points a game.Dropping off badly is overstating it. After matchweek 19 they had 47 pts. Realistically, they will finish with 88-90 pts. Being 4-6 pts worse off isn’t a catastrophic collapse.
I think they will replace Spurs as a top 4 mainstay now, for the foreseeable future. Mounting another title challenge depends on too many variables.
It is absolutely absurd because you are assuming that suddenly from title winning form they would go to relegation form and Man UTD would end winning 11 games straight to finish the season .There isn’t that many games left. Of course I’m basing it off Arsenal struggling over the next two games but it isn’t that absurd.
City started pulling ahead in - what - October?Did you see Jose finishing 2nd as a failure?
It was 47.I thought it was 50? Over 2.6 points a game. Since then just 2 points a game.
It is utterly, mind-bogglingly absurd. We aren't finishing ahead of Arsenal. Even with a catastrophic collapse from Arsenal, we'd pretty much have to be perfect with our threadbare, injury-stricken, exhausted squad. Neither is going to happen.There isn’t that many games left. Of course I’m basing it off Arsenal struggling over the next two games but it isn’t that absurd.
Where are they getting it from if they continue their bottling form v Southampton and City though. All I’m saying is it’s a possibility. I don’t think a realistic chance of being 6/7 points in front of United in third with 5 games to go warrants this talk of being second as if it’s either / or compared to winning the league. Teams do completely fall away when the momentum of going for the title is gone or top 4 has been achieved ala Chelsea last season.It’s fairly absurd. They only need 6 points to guarantee 3rd and that’s if Newcastle win every game. I’d wager they finish 3rd if they somehow lost all their games.
I want Arsenal to win. Lesser of the 2 evil and all that. This is Arsenal's best opportunity.It would be both a disappointment and a successful season. Objectively we've made massive progress this season, but short-term emotions would be disappointment around how we fell away during the business end of the season.
I think you'd be lacking a heart (or just lying) to not feel disappointed at finishing second after leading for so long, but you'd be lacking a head if you believed something like ''This means the project has failed, it's an unacceptable rate of progress, get rid of Arteta'' etc etc
Premier League website is telling me 50. By that stage of the season, who had they lost to, apart from us?
You simply can't be serious!Not in the slightest bit worried about City winning the treble. For one thing, they're getting Real in the next round, and even if they do somehow win the treble, it's been done before by us. I'd only be worried if they won the Quadruple.
They lose v City and we win v Spurs and we will have closed seven points in 3 games already to them?It is utterly, mind-bogglingly absurd. We aren't finishing ahead of Arsenal. Even with a catastrophic collapse from Arsenal, we'd pretty much have to be perfect with our threadbare, injury-stricken, exhausted squad. Neither is going to happen.
Yeah I just went back and checked. Indeed they were on 50 pts after beating us in their 19th game, the website I used above probably counted their rescheduled game against City instead of our game at the Emirates.Premier League website is telling me 50. By that stage of the season, who had they lost to, apart from us?
They’ve all but secured CL progression with that 3-0 at home and their FAC commitment is bloody Sheffield United.You can't lead for practically entire season then not win it. Regardless of their historical context
If offered 2nd at the start of the season it'd be a triumph but 2nd now is a disaster
I actually think they'll still do it, people are assuming city will beat them but with their FAC and CL commitments I'm not so sure. I think they can win at the emptihad
Agree with this. If you look at where they came from and look at how they overachieved this year they did a stellar job. It is a bottlejob, but fact remains the (cheating) machine that is City is hard to beat over the entire length of a season, especially with guys like Holding, Jorginho (why the feck did they buy him), Nketiah and Reiss Nelson as subs. If I were an Arsenal fan I would be extremely disappointed, but optimistic and relieved with CL football again when both feet are landed back on the ground.Quite a small time thread tbh. In a season where we’re finishing behind them and calling it progress, why shouldn’t they call theirs the same?
Of course it does; expectations are a forecast on the position you’re in. But either way you look at it from two points of view.Successful season given they are ahead of schedule. Did anyone have them finishing second this season?
The idea of resetting expectations mid season is silly. It makes no logical sense.
That's not what's happening here.Of course it would be a massive failure from the position they were in, regardless of what their preseason expectations were.
If I'm heading into a race with Kipchoge I'm not expecting to win, but you better believe I'll be kicking myself if I've got a decent gap in the last stretch but come second after tripping on my shoelaces.
Ambitions and expectations should be fluid. Liverpool fans didn't go into this season hoping for top 4, but at this point they'd see that as a success.
Any arsenal fan saying they'd be happy with second considering where they have been in recent seasons is simply trying to convince themselves just in case it becomes reality
They didn't lose to City (yet), they lost to West Ham after giving it away. That was the shoelace. It was in their hands.That's not what's happening here.
Arsenal are still on track to finish with at least 85 points. That is an excellent point haul in any season.
They have the misfortune of going up against a City side that has previous experience of putting up insane win streaks. Against such an opponent anything but brilliance being labeled as "tripping over your shoelaces" is simply an insane standard.