Aside from "hoof the ball to Rashford and James" what are our tactics?

[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

What is the plan here? We don't seem to do anything other than boot the ball up to the fast wide forwards. We don't seem to have any plan whatsoever in midfield.

 

[El Zoido]

We have no creativity to break teams down because Lingard is playing #10 and he’s rubbish. Can’t create when you have a player like that in that position. He’s only good at pressing against teams that have control of the game. He doesn’t have the capacity to create for a team that’s got more possession.

 

[RyRy11]

What is the plan here? We don't seem to do anything other than boot the ball up to the fast wide forwards. We don't seem to have any plan whatsoever in midfield.

That is our plan, it’s always been our plan. It works sometimes but when it doesn’t we have to rely on individual brilliance to score goals.

 

[Meller]

Counter attack and long balls. That's it.

 

[sewey89]

We’re a fantastic counter attacking team. But we really lack creativity to break down a defensive team. Pogba should help with that in the 10 role if/when he returns

 

[Igor Drefljak]

We don't have one, but we're not allowed to blame OGS as we won our last two games and are reformed

 

[kouroux]

We’re a fantastic counter attacking team. But we really lack creativity to break down a defensive team. Pogba should help with that in the 10 role if/when he returns

We do need better midfielders than Fred and McTominay for that too. Their passing between lines is limited

 

[IrishRedDevil]

You mean you don’t see the plan yet??? Wow.

 

[stu_1992]

Ugh its so frustrating to see us fall into this trap of not being able to break down teams like this after beating 2 big teams in the previous games.

 

[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

We have no creativity to break teams down because Lingard is playing #10 and he’s rubbish. Can’t create when you have a player like that in that position. He’s only good at pressing against teams that have control of the game. He doesn’t have the capacity to create for a team that’s got more possession.

I agree with you, but right now what is the alternative? Pereira is shit and Mata is slow as a tortoise and can be knocked over by light wind.

Maybe Mata for home games when we need to break teams down and Lingard for away games when we can press and counter?

 

[Catt]

Ugh its so frustrating to see us fall into this trap of not being able to break down teams like this after beating 2 big teams in the previous games.

Very predictable.

 

[dove]

Tactics? Tactics are overrated, all you need to win the games is passion.

 

[El Zoido]

It doesn’t help also that our players are incredibly stupid. Breaking down teams generally requires a bit of intelligence, knowing when to make the right decisions, knowing when to drill a low cross or clip a high one. Knowing when to shoot immediately and when to control it and lay it off. We had two instances in the first half here, where both Fred and Shaw took on speculative shots using their weaker foot, when better options were available. Smarter players make the correct decision more often.

 

[Irwin99]

A bit unfair . There are some nice forward balls being played by Fred but the forward line messes it up at times.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

I really don't know. It's all random and vague football with seemingly little vision and thought in play. There's no quality passing moved/quick interchanges /patters of play. It's as if our plan is "let's attack" or "play fast". It's all very strange. We play like a small team really, that thrives in raising their game when they have space and get to be the underdogs.

 

[Sterling Archer]

I'm so so confused by it. We have one of the speediest wingers around now and one that can actually cross the ball in. But we don't create movement to release him

 

[El Zoido]

I agree with you, but right now what is the alternative? Pereira is shit and Mata is slow as a tortoise and can be knocked over by light wind.

Maybe Mata for home games when we need to break teams down and Lingard for away games when we can press and counter?

There is no alternative. Either try Pogba in that position once he’s available, or sign someone. Until then, we have to accept this.

 

[Kag]

Lingard has ruined about three or four goal scoring opportunities because of his incompetence.

A proper #10 would be picking up the ball from the defenders. Maguire looks absolutely exasperated when in possession. Nobody shows for it.

 

[noodlehair]

Maguire and Lindelof are massive problems for us.

They slow the game down whenever they get the ball, give it straight back to the other team half the time, and are constantly incapable of defending their own penalty area.

Tactics are quite difficult when these two get on the ball more than anyone else.

 

[Freeney]

A midfield of Mctominay and Fred will only get you so far

 

[Skills]

It doesn’t help also that our players are incredibly stupid. Breaking down teams generally requires a bit of intelligence, knowing when to make the right decisions, knowing when to drill a low cross or clip a high one. Knowing when to shoot immediately and when to control it and lay it off. We had two instances in the first half here, where both Fred and Shaw took on speculative shots using their weaker foot, when better options were available. Smarter players make the correct decision more often.

What you're describing is the value good coaching adds to a team.

 

[buckooo1978]

Lingard has ruined about three or four goal scoring opportunities because of his incompetence.

A proper #10 would be picking up the ball from the defenders. Maguire looks absolutely exasperated when in possession. Nobody shows for it.

it's easy to blame Lingard but theres little creativity anywhere in the team

 

[DWelbz19]

Lingard has ruined about three or four goal scoring opportunities because of his incompetence.

A proper #10 would be picking up the ball from the defenders. Maguire looks absolutely exasperated when in possession. Nobody shows for it.

It’d help if Maguire would stop losing it too. He’s been giving off ‘Late era Whingey Wayne Rooney’ vibes without the performances to back it for a little while now.

 

[BlahRules]

What you're describing is the value good coaching adds to a team.

Agreed. We don’t have a coach that knows how to attack. LVG was right OGS is a defensive manager.

 

[Kag]

it's easy to blame Lingard but theres little creativity anywhere in the team

His position is supposed to be the creativity. We’d have been a couple up after twenty minutes if we had a proper #10 in his place. He’s a waste of space.

 

[Kag]

It’d help if Maguire would stop losing it too. He’s been giving off ‘Late era Whingey Wayne Rooney’ vibes without the performances to back it for a little while now.

There’s nobody showing for the ball in midfield. When McTominay and Fred are being marked then you need your attacking players to drop and do something with the ball. The sooner Pogba returns the better, especially in games like this.

 

[El Zoido]

What you're describing is the value good coaching adds to a team.

Can’t teach some people. This is why Mourinho kept going on about Shaw, saying “I can’t play for him” and stuff like that. He was clearly frustrated that his players weren’t learning.

 

[Irwin99]

Maguire and Lindelof are massive problems for us.

They slow the game down whenever they get the ball, give it straight back to the other team half the time, and are constantly incapable of defending their own penalty area.

Tactics are quite difficult when these two get on the ball more than anyone else.

They look pretty pissed off with the movement in front of them at times though. Maguire especially in his time here is pointing where he wants players to move and they’re not moving

 

[Adnan]

The fullbacks need to provide overlaps. We can blame the midfield and Lingard all we want and I'm not saying they aren't a issue, but the fullbacks have to do more against a team defending deep.

 

[Canagel]

Lots of "energy" and "passion"

 

[Paul_Scholes18]

Our movement is often so poor. We don't linkup well with short passing unless we have lots of space. Also our fullbacks are crap in attack.

 

[buckooo1978]

His position is supposed to be the creativity. We’d have been a couple up after twenty minutes if we had a proper #10 in his place. He’s a waste of space.

I agree he's not good enough but James and Martial have been really poor. Players like Shaw dont have the quality and we are incredibly predictable in attack

 

[Roboc7]

The team is coached to play one way it seems and when that is negated there is nothing else.

 

[noodlehair]

They look pretty pissed off with the movement in front of them at times though. Maguire especially in his time here is pointing where he wants players to move and they’re not moving

Maguire takes about 2 minutes to play any pass so he has no right to moan at anyone. He's the reason there is no movement. How do you know when to make a run when the person on the ball might take another 10 seconds to pass to you?

He's also constantly ignored Fred showing for a pass. I've no idea why as Maguire is not a better passer than Fred

 

[Ali Dia]

We have no creativity to break teams down because Lingard is playing #10 and he’s rubbish. Can’t create when you have a player like that in that position. He’s only good at pressing against teams that have control of the game. He doesn’t have the capacity to create for a team that’s got more possession.

this seems to be the case with all our forwards. They are devastating running beyond on the counter but they can’t break teams down who basically want to play the same way as we do in big matches. We need a better 10 who can make that final unexpected pass and a box finisher to play off when we are camped in the other teams half for 2/3 of the match. I also think the double pivot is probably overkill for home matches against poorer sides...

 

[Irwin99]

Maguire takes about 2 minutes to play any pass so he has no right to moan at anyone. He's the reason there is no movement. How do you know when to make a run when the person on the ball might take another 10 seconds to pass to you?

He's also constantly ignored Fred showing for a pass. I've no idea why as Maguire is not a better passer than Fred

Yeah it doesn’t absolve him of his own issues. Maguire just gave the ball away stupidly in the first minute when he didn’t need to try a long pass

 

[Renegade]

Maguire and Lindelof are massive problems for us.

They slow the game down whenever they get the ball, give it straight back to the other team half the time, and are constantly incapable of defending their own penalty area.

Tactics are quite difficult when these two get on the ball more than anyone else.

This is what annoys me with these “ball playing CB’s”.

 

[Carl]

We have no creativity to break teams down because Lingard is playing #10 and he’s rubbish. Can’t create when you have a player like that in that position. He’s only good at pressing against teams that have control of the game. He doesn’t have the capacity to create for a team that’s got more possession.

We lack creativity no matter what the starting XI. Harsh to pin this on Lingard.

 

[Karlos PFC]

We’re a fantastic counter attacking team. But we really lack creativity to break down a defensive team. Pogba should help with that in the 10 role if/when he returns

Maybe a better manager would help with these issues

 

[Kostov]

The type of football Mourinho was criticized to no ends on here, guess the hypocrites don’t have a problem now.